The big super fight Bradley v Alexander has sold 339 tickets!!

Lmao!!

Wow that is pathetic and they say America is the place to be!! How is that possible?


Pontiac Disaster: 339 tickets sold for Alexander-Bradley HBO showdown - National boxing | Examiner.com

Saying that the journo is Mike fucking Marley so maybe take it with a pinch of salt.

Why is it in Detroit? Of all places.

Neither of them are stars, they may be good young fighters but that doesn't mean they're even remotely close to being draws.

Except for the fact that St. Louis does seem to support their fighters. I mean Cory Spinks was a draw in St. Louis. But I guess Bradley didn't want to fight in St. Louis.

It probably would have done all right in California too.

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Why is it in Detroit? Of all places.

Neither of them are stars, they may be good young fighters but that doesn't mean they're even remotely close to being draws.

Except for the fact that St. Louis does seem to support their fighters. I mean Cory Spinks was a draw in St. Louis. But I guess Bradley didn't want to fight in St. Louis.

It probably would have done all right in California too.

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After the Kotelnik farce you can't blame Bradley.

I must have totally missed that fight, I don't know what happened and I didn't even realize they'd fought. The last time I've seen Alexander was the Urango fight. I was out of the loop for a while there.

Even beyond that though Detroit makes no sense. I mean its got a boxing history obviously but its a fucking ghost town now and even more so neither guy has any ties to the area.. As far as I know.

I think they are all snowed in atm. ;D Skel you really dont like America it seems. Why dont you bring up something about your precious Khan selling more tickets....

I doubt it has sold that few tickets. This is a solid fight between two Americans on American soil, surely people would be wanting to watch it. If not then buy your tickets you muppets! It makes you wonder who is more stupid, the Yanks who won't go and watch top fighters go at it or the Brits who pay to watch utter shit (Haye/Harrison).

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I think they are all snowed in atm. ;D Skel you really dont like America it seems. Why dont you bring up something about your precious Khan selling more tickets....

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I don't like America :confused:

WTF you on about? Just quite silly that a huge fight like this cant even sell 500 tickets, I think America is great for boxing but sometimes some of youre fellow American boxing fans make a big deal about protected Brits/Europeans not coming over to fight over the pond, this illustrates my point that America is actually declining in popularity within boxing while Europe is flourishing.


I would guarantee now if this fight was in Manchester or London you would have five thousand plus at this fight without any marketing at all. That was my point nothing to do with not liking America.

What you talking about my precious Khan??

This fight is in march and we're "pathetic" because it hasnt sold out? What are you on about?? Not to mention we are going through financial troubles, high unemployment etc. You also glorify Khans record like he has faced the top flight guys...lol Malignaggi...Kotelnik and Maidana, yeah big whoop. Edit I just saw its in end of Jan, hmm guess the promotions havent been going full bore, thought it was in March! Its also a nuetral spot kind of far from Bradley home of Cali, and St. Louis Alexanders home town. If they wanted to sell more it should have been in St. Louis.

Idiots! Neutral site?

Home towns, Vegas or Atlantic City are the only site venues for top young fighters. Of course you could pick another large casino venue. Going to a weak economic zone with $400 tickets is just idiocy.

i was thinking of going... guess i'll have a super fucking fantastic seat!

Maybe the reason there are on 339 tickets sold is because they don't go on sale until tomorrow! Welcome to the Silverdome located in Pontiac, MI

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Maybe the reason there are on 339 tickets sold is because they don't go on sale until tomorrow! Welcome to the Silverdome located in Pontiac, MI

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they went on sale December 10th

$400.00 for ringside does seem kind of high. $25 dollar tickets probably get you nosebleed section.Heres the seating chart. This is whats wrong with boxing ..its priced too high. $55 bucks and your up in the bleachers. http://www.etix.com/venueResources/t...ingSeating.gif

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Maybe the reason there are on 339 tickets sold is because they don't go on sale until tomorrow! Welcome to the Silverdome located in Pontiac, MI

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they went on sale December 10th

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Oh my bad! I didn't read the date, before I clicked on the "Buy Tickets" link I read "Tickets go on sale Friday" and then this came up. (see pic) The advanced column made me think Friday tomorrow.

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hmmm six hour drive, need to see if I can squeeze some money out of the old wallet.

That's one good thing about the Brits. They might be genetically challenged, but they do support their fighters. Look at how Hatton and to a lesser extent Calzaghe were able to transport fans half way across the globe to watch a fight. And here are two very good fighters unable to command even a modicum of that kind of support. And that is no dig at the two American fighters here as they have been making all the right noises. Where are the fanbases? It bewilders me, it really does. Okay, not the best location for this fight and it is expensive, but it seems that there are hardly any fans out there.

Not good at all. This will be a quality scrap. :-\

The economic situation in Detroit is terrible. Why in the fuck would anyone think it a good idea to put a fight there?

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The economic situation in Detroit is terrible. Why in the fuck would anyone think it a good idea to put a fight there?

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There all on welfare right? Very strange.

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The economic situation in Detroit is terrible. Why in the fuck would anyone think it a good idea to put a fight there?

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There all on welfare right? Very strange.

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It's among the worst places in America at the moment in terms of poverty. It's brutal.

Read this if you're interested, it's the first article I could find:

Detroit homes sell for $1 amid mortgage and car industry crisis | Business | The Guardian

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The economic situation in Detroit is terrible. Why in the fuck would anyone think it a good idea to put a fight there?

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There all on welfare right? Very strange.

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It's among the worst places in America at the moment in terms of poverty. It's brutal.

Read this if you're interested, it's the first article I could find:

Detroit homes sell for $1 amid mortgage and car industry crisis | Business | The Guardian

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Wow that's very sad indeed $100 for a house.

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That's one good thing about the Brits. They might be genetically challenged, but they do support their fighters. Look at how Hatton and to a lesser extent Calzaghe were able to transport fans half way across the globe to watch a fight. And here are two very good fighters unable to command even a modicum of that kind of support. And that is no dig at the two American fighters here as they have been making all the right noises. Where are the fanbases? It bewilders me, it really does. Okay, not the best location for this fight and it is expensive, but it seems that there are hardly any fans out there.

Not good at all. This will be a quality scrap. :-\

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Not really a fair comparison with England being roughly the size of New York. If Hatton fans were Bradley fans driving to Michigan from the California They'd have to drive from England to Turkey.

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The economic situation in Detroit is terrible. Why in the fuck would anyone think it a good idea to put a fight there?

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There all on welfare right? Very strange.

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It's among the worst places in America at the moment in terms of poverty. It's brutal.

Read this if you're interested, it's the first article I could find:

Detroit homes sell for $1 amid mortgage and car industry crisis | Business | The Guardian

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Wow that's very sad indeed $100 for a house.

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And the actual house itself only cost $5.

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That's one good thing about the Brits. They might be genetically challenged, but they do support their fighters. Look at how Hatton and to a lesser extent Calzaghe were able to transport fans half way across the globe to watch a fight. And here are two very good fighters unable to command even a modicum of that kind of support. And that is no dig at the two American fighters here as they have been making all the right noises. Where are the fanbases? It bewilders me, it really does. Okay, not the best location for this fight and it is expensive, but it seems that there are hardly any fans out there.

Not good at all. This will be a quality scrap. :-\

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Not really a fair comparison with England being roughly the size of New York. If Hatton fans were Bradley fans driving to Michigan from the California They'd have to drive from England to Turkey.

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I think he meant they were able to bring way more than 500 people across the pond to vegas and whereever else they fought...

Man you guys are fooking brutal ha. Location and promotion has been botched big time. Fortunately we know this fight is on par with the best and a must see. Boxing is starving for great matches but it's selling itself out ever so slowly on pumped up individual name affairs and who talks the most shit these days...just wish I was a billionaire I'd buy the place out ;D

Detroit is an incredibly bad situation, I don't even think Americans really understand how bad it is. The whole midwest has been hurt by the move away from factory type work but Detroit's the worst.

And you really can't compare the US to England as far as this goes. There are so many different mitigating circumstances. The size of the country is obviously one, the amount of fighters is another (both of these contribute to people (casual fans I mean) in Detroit not really caring about fighters from other regions), and of course when you really get down to it boxing is just a niche sport here.

where does boxing rank among sports in the UK? I get the sense that there's just the one overwhelming favorite in soccer and then everything else is kind of in another tier. Is boxing number two? Rugby?

Here even though pro football is huge and a clear number one it seems like there are more big sports with no equivalent to the overall dominance that soccer/football has in the UK and boxing is way down the line

Pro football
College football
Pro basketball
Pro baseball
College basketball
Nascar
UFC
hockey
boxing
soccer

only the bottom ones are hard to rank.

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The economic situation in Detroit is terrible. Why in the fuck would anyone think it a good idea to put a fight there?

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There all on welfare right? Very strange.

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It's among the worst places in America at the moment in terms of poverty. It's brutal.

Read this if you're interested, it's the first article I could find:

Detroit homes sell for $1 amid mortgage and car industry crisis | Business | The Guardian

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The Stadium for the venue sold for $583K. I bet if you ground up the cement and used it for roads it would be worth that and then recycled the steel he'd make a nice profit. The Chinese might even pay him to come and pick it up.

Silverdome sale price disappoints | detnews.com | The Detroit News

where the fight is taking place, sold for a mere 583k for a full fledged arena/stadium insane.

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That's one good thing about the Brits. They might be genetically challenged, but they do support their fighters. Look at how Hatton and to a lesser extent Calzaghe were able to transport fans half way across the globe to watch a fight. And here are two very good fighters unable to command even a modicum of that kind of support. And that is no dig at the two American fighters here as they have been making all the right noises. Where are the fanbases? It bewilders me, it really does. Okay, not the best location for this fight and it is expensive, but it seems that there are hardly any fans out there.

Not good at all. This will be a quality scrap. :-\

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Not really a fair comparison with England being roughly the size of New York. If Hatton fans were Bradley fans driving to Michigan from the California They'd have to drive from England to Turkey.

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I think he meant they were able to bring way more than 500 people across the pond to vegas and whereever else they fought...

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Hatton is hardly a fair comparison in terms of popularity though.

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Detroit is an incredibly bad situation, I don't even think Americans really understand how bad it is. The whole midwest has been hurt by the move away from factory type work but Detroit's the worst.

And you really can't compare the US to England as far as this goes. There are so many different mitigating circumstances. The size of the country is obviously one, the amount of fighters is another (both of these contribute to people (casual fans I mean) in Detroit not really caring about fighters from other regions), and of course when you really get down to it boxing is just a niche sport here.

where does boxing rank among sports in the UK? I get the sense that there's just the one overwhelming favorite in soccer and then everything else is kind of in another tier. Is boxing number two? Rugby?

Here even though pro football is huge and a clear number one it seems like there are more big sports with no equivalent to the overall dominance that soccer/football has in the UK and boxing is way down the line

Pro football
College football
Pro basketball
Pro baseball
College basketball
Nascar
UFC
hockey
boxing
soccer

only the bottom ones are hard to rank.

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Boxing is nowhere near number two, boxing is struggling to get tv deals couple of our top promoters don't even have a tv deal right now.


Football
Cricket
Tennis
Formula One
Atheltics
Golf
Darts

Just to name a few are all covered more on tv and alot of casual fans no the top players teams in these and other sports, you would be hard pressed to for a casual fan to no who the likes of Carl Froch and Ricky Burns is. Both world champs.

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That's one good thing about the Brits. They might be genetically challenged, but they do support their fighters. Look at how Hatton and to a lesser extent Calzaghe were able to transport fans half way across the globe to watch a fight. And here are two very good fighters unable to command even a modicum of that kind of support. And that is no dig at the two American fighters here as they have been making all the right noises. Where are the fanbases? It bewilders me, it really does. Okay, not the best location for this fight and it is expensive, but it seems that there are hardly any fans out there.

Not good at all. This will be a quality scrap. :-\

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Not really a fair comparison with England being roughly the size of New York. If Hatton fans were Bradley fans driving to Michigan from the California They'd have to drive from England to Turkey.

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I am saying that English fans travelled much further than that and in greater numbers. I know things are tough and understand, but less than 500 paying punters is sorely lacking. It's a great matchup, such poor numbers for such an enticing fight.

Good reasons have been given as to why the numbers are so poor, but it's still a poor reflection on the fanbases the two fighters have. They should have more devoted fans than this.

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That's one good thing about the Brits. They might be genetically challenged, but they do support their fighters. Look at how Hatton and to a lesser extent Calzaghe were able to transport fans half way across the globe to watch a fight. And here are two very good fighters unable to command even a modicum of that kind of support. And that is no dig at the two American fighters here as they have been making all the right noises. Where are the fanbases? It bewilders me, it really does. Okay, not the best location for this fight and it is expensive, but it seems that there are hardly any fans out there.

Not good at all. This will be a quality scrap. :-\

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Not really a fair comparison with England being roughly the size of New York. If Hatton fans were Bradley fans driving to Michigan from the California They'd have to drive from England to Turkey.

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I think he meant they were able to bring way more than 500 people across the pond to vegas and whereever else they fought...

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Hatton is hardly a fair comparison in terms of popularity though.

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A domestic fight over here get minimum one two thousand I agree it is easier to sell over here are champs are few and far between compared to the States, but for such a huge fight between Bradley and Alexander it is quite a poor affair when only few hundred fans have bought tickets, especially when alot of people think this is one of the biggest fights in the sport.

I didn't realize cricket was that big.

Anyway this isn't surprising to me and its not just cause Detroit's going through so much. Only real boxing fans know who these guys are. I'm pretty sure neither have ever been mentioned on a national sports show. Its just not a big sport here. Its not covered by the real mainstream media unless you're one of the top drawing guys.

I have no idea why they put it in Detroit though. Not like it would draw well in Vegas but I'm sure it would do better.

FNF ESPN card tomorrow night btw.....Its Manfredo jr but hey.....upsets DO happen ;D

shit... I just spammed huh :-X

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That's one good thing about the Brits. They might be genetically challenged, but they do support their fighters. Look at how Hatton and to a lesser extent Calzaghe were able to transport fans half way across the globe to watch a fight. And here are two very good fighters unable to command even a modicum of that kind of support. And that is no dig at the two American fighters here as they have been making all the right noises. Where are the fanbases? It bewilders me, it really does. Okay, not the best location for this fight and it is expensive, but it seems that there are hardly any fans out there.

Not good at all. This will be a quality scrap. :-\

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Not really a fair comparison with England being roughly the size of New York. If Hatton fans were Bradley fans driving to Michigan from the California They'd have to drive from England to Turkey.

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I am saying that English fans travelled much further than that and in greater numbers. I know things are tough and understand, but less than 500 paying punters is sorely lacking. It's a great matchup, such poor numbers for such an enticing fight.

Good reasons have been given as to why the numbers are so poor, but it's still a poor reflection on the fanbases the two fighters have. They should have more devoted fans than this.

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Like I say I honestly think fights like this should be brought over to the uk especially when they both want a neutral venue and this fight would of sold 5-10k tickets easy at the MEN arena, and the atmosphere over here is second to none imo.

Katsidis is a huge fan of fighting over here and loves the passion of the fans, if these huge fights like this are doing this poorly promoters needs to look at going over seas imo.

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I didn't realize cricket was that big.

Anyway this isn't surprising to me and its not just cause Detroit's going through so much. Only real boxing fans know who these guys are. I'm pretty sure neither have ever been mentioned on a national sports show. Its just not a big sport here. Its not covered by the real mainstream media unless you're one of the top drawing guys.

I have no idea why they put it in Detroit though. Not like it would draw well in Vegas but I'm sure it would do better.

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Massive mate there is currently 20-30 thousand Brits over in Australia following our national cricket team, we just have passionate fans who follow all our sports stars.

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That's one good thing about the Brits. They might be genetically challenged, but they do support their fighters. Look at how Hatton and to a lesser extent Calzaghe were able to transport fans half way across the globe to watch a fight. And here are two very good fighters unable to command even a modicum of that kind of support. And that is no dig at the two American fighters here as they have been making all the right noises. Where are the fanbases? It bewilders me, it really does. Okay, not the best location for this fight and it is expensive, but it seems that there are hardly any fans out there.

Not good at all. This will be a quality scrap. :-\

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Not really a fair comparison with England being roughly the size of New York. If Hatton fans were Bradley fans driving to Michigan from the California They'd have to drive from England to Turkey.

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I think he meant they were able to bring way more than 500 people across the pond to vegas and whereever else they fought...

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Hatton is hardly a fair comparison in terms of popularity though.

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A domestic fight over here get minimum one two thousand I agree it is easier to sell over here are champs are few and far between compared to the States, but for such a huge fight between Bradley and Alexander it is quite a poor affair when only few hundred fans have bought tickets, especially when alot of people think this is one of the biggest fights in the sport.

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I think in many parts of the States this fight would draw thousands of spectators, but Detroit is an absolute wasteland. I could be wrong, but I don't think there's a place in the U.K. that compares economically with Detroit at the moment. Almost no one there has the disposable cash to spend on a niche sport for two fighter from different parts of the country.

It would have been great to have them host it in the UK though, and it would set up a clash with Khan pretty well.

Rule # 1 in business....location, location. They cannot and should not export a fight of this stature. Thats jibber-jabber talk. It is a quality match to be sure.....its the marketing that has gone to shit. Boxing has gone short term and we have alot to do about that. If Manny or Haye drove by and gave em' both the finger, I bet they would sell a few hundred more tickets :p

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FNF ESPN card tomorrow night btw.....Its Manfredo jr but hey.....upsets DO happen ;D

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I'm more interested in seeing La Bomba vs Pryor Jr.

I couldn't believe this fight was put in Detroit and now it's justified. It's extremely tough to overstate the fall of Detroit. From America's proudest working class city to the most depressed city in our nation. It is 'big' only geographically. People are fleeing from Detroit. Like OumaFan and CFH have stressed, it's just not a good venue. Sad, because this is a great fight.