Looks like he wanted to much money he was offered $200k and turned it down.
Who do you think is in the picture now? I thought this was a done deal never mind not to bothered.
I reckon Khan should fight either Prescott,McCloskey or Murray.
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Looks like he wanted to much money he was offered $200k and turned it down.
Who do you think is in the picture now? I thought this was a done deal never mind not to bothered.
I reckon Khan should fight either Prescott,McCloskey or Murray.
BBC Sport - Amir Khan 'happy' to fight Paul McCloskey
Amir Khan says he hopes his next fight can be arranged in the "next few days" and Northern Irish boxer Paul McCloskey is likely to be his opponent.
WBA super lightweight champion Khan told BBC Five live that his management was "looking at all the options".
Speaking of McCloskey, Khan said "He approached us. He's an undefeated fighter. I'm happy to take the fight on."
The Bolton-born boxer restated his aim to unify the division this year.
He wants to fight the winner of the forthcoming bout between the US fighters Timothy Bradley and Devon Alexander on 29 January.
Bradley is the WBO light-welterweight champion and Alexander holds the WBC belt.
In the meantime, Khan says he wants a new opponent and it is likely to be European champion McCloskey from Dungiven at the MEN Arena in Manchester on 16 April.
"The next level for him is world title and I'm to take the fight on. He's a good fighter," Khan said.
A fight with Khan's original choice of opponent, Lamont Peterson, fell through.
Khan said Peterson had demanded "a huge figure - just too much money" to appear.
Sound like Khan priced him out, that seems real low for a title fight, and to be in a foreign country. But I'm glad McCloskey is going to get the shot.
Also, weren't you just saying McCloskey wasnt ready, now you are ok with it? I should be a fucking matchmaker I tell ya...
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Originally Posted by No Contest
Who else is there? He is ranked high enough, but he will get smashed in 4 rounds imo. Prescott,McCloskey or Murray are his only options really.
$200k is low for a guy like Peterson? You think I would love to know what Peterson will get in his next fight, I would guess he wont make that amount in his next 4/5 fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Pirog got $30k to fight Jacobs for a title fight last year, end of the day who is Peterson?? 200k is a fair sum for him imo.
So now we are missing Haye vs Wlad for whatever this might be! Fuck off Sky and fuck off Khan. I just don't like it!
What's wrong with these young fighters? He came from sleeping in a car to main event fights. And forgetting where he came from already. Someone in his camp needs to let him know, he needs to let the kid know he have to win one of these big fights before he demands money. For all he know, he mihgt be sitting on the sideline. Who else is he going to fight right now and he get paid? Its ashame, I like the Peterson boys, but this is a career ending turn down fight chance.
I don't blame him really, after Barrera nobody should be going to the UK to fight Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Exactly the guy is coming off a defeat by the best in the division and a gift of a draw against another top ten fighter, who the hell is going to pay him 200k in any other fight?? I would actually state if he was champion or beltholder should I say he would be hard pushed to make 200k, he wont make that sort of money in his next 4 fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Refresh my memory. What happen to Barrera?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI don't blame him really, after Barrera nobody should be going to the UK to fight Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
IMO financially the Prescott rematch makes the most sense and would probably do crazy numbers in Khan's backyard, even if it will most likely be a one sided affair, but people would go crazy for the fight cause it would be "retribution" for Khan
It doesn't matter that Peterson went from sleeping in a car to where he is now, boxing after all is a business and guys do take considerable risks inside that ring, so of course they want to be compensated fairly especially if they're fighting in some guy's backyard.
I remember reading from another boxing forum that Montiel got around 500k fighting Hasegawa in Japan. And this is a 118 pound fight.
He had a gash on the head from a butt reaching down to the skull which took place in the early stages of the fight. Nobody decided to protect Barrera and of course he wouldn't quit. The fight was eventually stopped after it was safe enough to go to the cards and of course Khan got the decision over a half blind and seriously injured Barrera.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveRefresh my memory. What happen to Barrera?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI don't blame him really, after Barrera nobody should be going to the UK to fight Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
It should make any foreign fighter think twice about going to the UK when asked to face a domestic British fighter.
Out of curiosity, did you felt the same way when Kostya Tszyu fought Hatton with Parris reffing the fight?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milesHe had a gash on the head from a butt reaching down to the skull which took place in the early stages of the fight. Nobody decided to protect Barrera and of course he wouldn't quit. The fight was eventually stopped after it was safe enough to go to the cards and of course Khan got the decision over a half blind and seriously injured Barrera.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveRefresh my memory. What happen to Barrera?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI don't blame him really, after Barrera nobody should be going to the UK to fight Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
It should make any foreign fighter think twice about going to the UK when asked to face a domestic British fighter.
for me I want to see Prescott rematch
McCloskey would be out of his depth - as would Prescott I agree but he maybe has a psychological edge and can bang. And I would pay to see it
Big punchers are the only people who are going to beat Khan and that's all I got to say about that
But who is Peterson Bulldog? Khan like it or not is a cash cow in the uk, he could fight a blind donkey and still get big money, Peterson is not worth more than 200k he brings nothing to the fight financially, he is getting paid very well he would of never seen that sort of money before for one fight, what other shots will he get? If he gets another shot he won't make anywhere near that amount silly decision really.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Exactly that is the best fight for me can put a few doubts to bed and will create alot of interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
To be fair, I don't think Kostya was cut to the skull from a butt after two. For sure I understand the complaints about how Paris officiated the Kostya/Hatton fight, but it is a very different thing. That is more akin to Cortez officiating Hatton/Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogOut of curiosity, did you felt the same way when Kostya Tszyu fought Hatton with Parris reffing the fight?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milesHe had a gash on the head from a butt reaching down to the skull which took place in the early stages of the fight. Nobody decided to protect Barrera and of course he wouldn't quit. The fight was eventually stopped after it was safe enough to go to the cards and of course Khan got the decision over a half blind and seriously injured Barrera.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveRefresh my memory. What happen to Barrera?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI don't blame him really, after Barrera nobody should be going to the UK to fight Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
It should make any foreign fighter think twice about going to the UK when asked to face a domestic British fighter.
I understand Khan is the bigger star bro and he makes a lot of money in the UK. But I also look at it or try to from a fighters point of view in that they also want to be compensated a little bit more especially especially fighting in some guy's backyard.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983But who is Peterson Bulldog? Khan like it or not is a cash cow in the uk, he could fight a blind donkey and still get big money, Peterson is not worth more than 200k he brings nothing to the fight financially, he is getting paid very well he would of never seen that sort of money before for one fight, what other shots will he get? If he gets another shot he won't make anywhere near that amount silly decision really.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Like I said when using Montiel as an example. Hasegawa is a big star in Japan and makes a lot of money, but the 1st offer was kind of low from what I read and Montiel wanted a little bit more to take the risks in going to fight a guy in his backyard. I don't know what was the 1st offer from Hasegawa's camp, but more than likely it would still have been Montiel's biggest payday, still he wanted to be compensated a little bit more for fighting a guy in his backyard. So what is wrong with that. At that time you can say who is Montiel to be demanding more money from Hasegawa's side?
A lot of fans criticized a guy for wanting a little bit more, but they forget this is still a business.
I agree with that. It is a big risk to go to a foreign country and lay it on the line and be knowing that the officiating might well be against you. You should at least be well compensated for your efforts. Compared to what Khan will be reaping in I am sure what Peterson would be earning would be small change in comparison. I don't blame him for deciding that it isn't worth it. Might as well stay home, have a couple of fights and give it another go several months later.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogI understand Khan is the bigger star bro and he makes a lot of money in the UK. But I also look at it or try to from a fighters point of view in that they also want to be compensated a little bit more especially especially fighting in some guy's backyard.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983But who is Peterson Bulldog? Khan like it or not is a cash cow in the uk, he could fight a blind donkey and still get big money, Peterson is not worth more than 200k he brings nothing to the fight financially, he is getting paid very well he would of never seen that sort of money before for one fight, what other shots will he get? If he gets another shot he won't make anywhere near that amount silly decision really.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Like I said when using Montiel as an example. Hasegawa is a big star in Japan and makes a lot of money, but the 1st offer was kind of low from what I read and Montiel wanted a little bit more to take the risks in going to fight a guy in his backyard. I don't know what was the 1st offer from Hasegawa's camp, but more than likely it would still have been Montiel's biggest payday, still he wanted to be compensated a little bit more for fighting a guy in his backyard. So what is wrong with that. At that time you can say who is Montiel to be demanding more money from Hasegawa's side?
A lot of fans criticized a guy for wanting a little bit more, but they forget this is still a business.
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Originally Posted by generalbulldogI understand Khan is the bigger star bro and he makes a lot of money in the UK. But I also look at it or try to from a fighters point of view in that they also want to be compensated a little bit more especially especially fighting in some guy's backyard.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983But who is Peterson Bulldog? Khan like it or not is a cash cow in the uk, he could fight a blind donkey and still get big money, Peterson is not worth more than 200k he brings nothing to the fight financially, he is getting paid very well he would of never seen that sort of money before for one fight, what other shots will he get? If he gets another shot he won't make anywhere near that amount silly decision really.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Like I said when using Montiel as an example. Hasegawa is a big star in Japan and makes a lot of money, but the 1st offer was kind of low from what I read and Montiel wanted a little bit more to take the risks in going to fight a guy in his backyard. I don't know what was the 1st offer from Hasegawa's camp, but more than likely it would still have been Montiel's biggest payday, still he wanted to be compensated a little bit more for fighting a guy in his backyard. So what is wrong with that. At that time you can say who is Montiel to be demanding more money from Hasegawa's side?
A lot of fans criticized a guy for wanting a little bit more, but they forget this is still a business.
Maybe this fight is still not dead and Peterson was just testing the water see if he can squeeze some more out? Who knows I am with Peterson if I was fighting a guy who is probably getting $1 million I would try hard to get as much as I could but I just think if this fight does not happen he could possibly regret turning that figure down in the long run.
If Montiel got $500,000 against Hasegawa (which I highly doubt, maybe half that) it just shows how strong boxing is in Japan and shows why their fighters NEVER need to leave there.
The same as Khan offering Peterson a career high payday. If the guy don't want to fight after that what can you do?
Is just goes to show that money is the main motivator for these guys. You can't knock Peterson's camp for trying to get the best deal but 200k and a shot a world title is something not to be sniffed at. That would be the most he would have ever got from 1 fight yet greed has gotten the better of him. This isn't just a criticism of Peterson but of a lot of boxers who just seem interested in the money and the money only.
If greed was the motivation then he would have taken the fight, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrislfc17
It could surely have not been a variety of other issues.
Be surprised if Peterson's earnings over the next two years reach 200k tbh.
Like we all care about earnings. Will yours reach that?Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Peterson will do fine, he will stay away from toxic England and rebuild his career.
You're not very patriotic are you? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milesLike we all care about earnings. Will yours reach that?Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Peterson will do fine, he will stay away from toxic England and rebuild his career.
But then again I really don't consider you a Brit since you haven't lived there in a decade.
Just saw a sum of 500,000 being offered to Senchnko(sp?) from Alvarez.Yeah that mega star Senchenko. Peterson isnt worth more than 200,000 though.....
No, I don't really do patriotism. It is a silly emotion. I just want to see good fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogYou're not very patriotic are you? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milesLike we all care about earnings. Will yours reach that?Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Peterson will do fine, he will stay away from toxic England and rebuild his career.
But then again I really don't consider you a Brit since you haven't lived there in a decade.
Totally different situation if you can't see that you need to take them tinted glasses off, Senchenko is unbeaton World Champion of course he is going to be paid more :rolleyes:, Peterson is a guy who has got basically no where else to go other than a rematch with Ortiz he has been beat and got a very lucky draw against the other top guys in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Come on mate stop being silly.
Go look at his record, yeah hes unbeaten he's fought a bunch of obscure east europeans. Peterson has a better resume if you ask me. Why dont you quit being silly, just looking at records. Very lucky draw? He won on one card after being knocked down twice...Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Totally different situation if you can't see that you need to take them tinted glasses off, Senchenko is unbeaton World Champion of course he is going to be paid more :rolleyes:, Peterson is a guy who has got basically no where else to go other than a rematch with Ortiz he has been beat and got a very lucky draw against the other top guys in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Come on mate stop being silly.
Hahaha mate I can't even debate with you, you have lost the plot totally, so being a world title holder doesn't mean shit does it not? Jesussssss, why do you think Alvarez is picking Senchenko? He is holding a world title, do you think the resume comes into play when negotiating a fight when he is trying to get a world champion in the ring?Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestGo look at his record, yeah hes unbeaten he's fought a bunch of obscure east europeans. Peterson has a better resume if you ask me. Why dont you quit being silly, just looking at records. Very lucky draw? He won on one card after being knocked down twice...Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Totally different situation if you can't see that you need to take them tinted glasses off, Senchenko is unbeaton World Champion of course he is going to be paid more :rolleyes:, Peterson is a guy who has got basically no where else to go other than a rematch with Ortiz he has been beat and got a very lucky draw against the other top guys in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Come on mate stop being silly.
Wow unreal, if Peterson was holding a version of the world title he would be paid alot more, but he isnt, Senchenko is in demand he is seen as the weak link of the world champs in the division Hatton want's to fight him alot of other fighters do. Can you not see this? This is how the boxing business works. :-\
Why did Hatton fight a bum like Maussa and pay him $1 million, why did Khan fight the weakest of the 140 title holders Kotelnik? Why did Hatton fight Collazo? All these guys were paid inflated purses because they held a version of the world title.Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestGo look at his record, yeah hes unbeaten he's fought a bunch of obscure east europeans. Peterson has a better resume if you ask me. Why dont you quit being silly, just looking at records. Very lucky draw? He won on one card after being knocked down twice...Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Totally different situation if you can't see that you need to take them tinted glasses off, Senchenko is unbeaton World Champion of course he is going to be paid more :rolleyes:, Peterson is a guy who has got basically no where else to go other than a rematch with Ortiz he has been beat and got a very lucky draw against the other top guys in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Come on mate stop being silly.
Look at Maussa he got paid $1 million if he didn't hold the WBA Belt he would be lucky to get 100k and he probably did after he got beat by Hatton having a world title gives you alot of options. ;)
But for some reason you don't seem to understand that :confused:
I don't think I have come across one person who thinks he didn't lose that fight. Unless in this situation you wan't to be the exception?Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestGo look at his record, yeah hes unbeaten he's fought a bunch of obscure east europeans. Peterson has a better resume if you ask me. Why dont you quit being silly, just looking at records. Very lucky draw? He won on one card after being knocked down twice...Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Totally different situation if you can't see that you need to take them tinted glasses off, Senchenko is unbeaton World Champion of course he is going to be paid more :rolleyes:, Peterson is a guy who has got basically no where else to go other than a rematch with Ortiz he has been beat and got a very lucky draw against the other top guys in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Come on mate stop being silly.
He's a paper champ , he didnt beat the true champ, he beat some guy yuriy something who drew with Irving garcia then goes on to lose to Matthew Hatton. Your the one thats unreal if you just think the stupid ass WBA belt makes a champ. Yeah you really cant debate with me because your debate is crappy.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Hahaha mate I can't even debate with you, you have lost the plot totally, so being a world title holder doesn't mean shit doesn't not? Jesussssss, why do you think Alvarez is picking Senchenko? He is holding a world title, do you think the resume comes into play when negotiating a fight when he is trying to get a world champion in the ring?Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestGo look at his record, yeah hes unbeaten he's fought a bunch of obscure east europeans. Peterson has a better resume if you ask me. Why dont you quit being silly, just looking at records. Very lucky draw? He won on one card after being knocked down twice...Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Totally different situation if you can't see that you need to take them tinted glasses off, Senchenko is unbeaton World Champion of course he is going to be paid more :rolleyes:, Peterson is a guy who has got basically no where else to go other than a rematch with Ortiz he has been beat and got a very lucky draw against the other top guys in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Come on mate stop being silly.
Wow unreal, if Peterson was holding a version of the world title he would be paid alot more, but he isnt, Senchenko is in demand he is seen as the weak link of the world champs in the division Hatton want's to fight him alot of other fighters do. Can you not see this? This is how the boxing business works. :-\
My debate is crappy? hahaha I have just explained to you and showed you examples of fighters who hold paper belts who get paid much more than fighters with same average resumes because of one reason, why can't you understand and accept that? I don't make the rules or I don't even like the way this happens but I have just shown you three fights where this has happened and I could come up with a list of over paid paper champs who get big paydays because they hold a strap, so how the fuck is my debate crappy. I have owned you on this debate I am sorry to say my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestHe's a paper champ , he didnt beat the true champ, he beat some guy yuriy something who drew with Irving garcia then goes on to lose to Matthew Hatton. Your the one thats unreal if you just think the stupid ass WBA belt makes a champ. Yeah you really cant debate with me because your debate is crappy.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Hahaha mate I can't even debate with you, you have lost the plot totally, so being a world title holder doesn't mean shit doesn't not? Jesussssss, why do you think Alvarez is picking Senchenko? He is holding a world title, do you think the resume comes into play when negotiating a fight when he is trying to get a world champion in the ring?Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestGo look at his record, yeah hes unbeaten he's fought a bunch of obscure east europeans. Peterson has a better resume if you ask me. Why dont you quit being silly, just looking at records. Very lucky draw? He won on one card after being knocked down twice...Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Totally different situation if you can't see that you need to take them tinted glasses off, Senchenko is unbeaton World Champion of course he is going to be paid more :rolleyes:, Peterson is a guy who has got basically no where else to go other than a rematch with Ortiz he has been beat and got a very lucky draw against the other top guys in the division.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Come on mate stop being silly.
Wow unreal, if Peterson was holding a version of the world title he would be paid alot more, but he isnt, Senchenko is in demand he is seen as the weak link of the world champs in the division Hatton want's to fight him alot of other fighters do. Can you not see this? This is how the boxing business works. :-\
Why is Alvarex choosing to fight some bum with no on on his record who is crap according to you answer me that? Why would he do that. no one in America knows who he is?? Why do you think he want's to fight him and is paying him 500k?? Please I would love to know the reason, well I actually no the reason but I just wan't to know if you do.
Like I say I don't agree with it but thats the way it is. ;)
I think you've owned yourself , just keep drinking the kool aid. I agree we disagree.
You not going to answer? Why Alvarez is fighting The crappy European?Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
It's not even signed yet, he wants an easy win while waiting in line for the Pac sweepstakes.