Team McCloskey reveal (in detail) why fight with Khan is off

Statement from McCloskey team regarding the 'failed deal' - quite revealing too:

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This is a response to Amir Khan teams statement regarding the failed deal. There have been a lot of stories since this deal broke down which have not been accurate coming from the Khan camp. Out of respect for Pauls fans and the general boxing public I feel I must state the facts publicly.

I Francie McNicholl Paul McCloskey’s manager would like to set the record straight and let the public decide the truth from fiction. It was Paul’s decision alone to not accept the offer. After initial contact had been made with the Khan team we all agreed the contest could happen subject to conditions being agreed.

The Khan team sent an e mail to Matchroom with an offer of a cash amount that Paul would get paid for the fight. It also said they would require options on Paul’s next three fights should he win the contest. The cash amount offered was way below what one would expect for an unbeaten European champion in a world title fight. Barry Hearn contacted Khans team asking for two and a half times this offer, which was rejected. Khans team were then sent an email stating the amount that Paul received for his last European fight. Contrary to Amir Khans teams claims their offer was only TWICE the figure Paul has made before, not 3,4,5,or 6.

As Khans team would not negotiate on this low figure. I suggested we look at other ways that could improve the deal on Paul’s part to make it worthy of a world title fight, namely commission on:

1: Ticket sales
2: PPV sales

I suggested that we would get a commission on the tickets that we sold on an incentive basis. The more we sold the higher percentage we would make, up to a figure of 25 percent. Khans team would only agree to 20 PERCENT COMMISSION ON SALES OVER AND ABOVE 100k.

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We do accept that Amir is the pay per view attraction, with that in mind we suggested that we acquire the viewing figures of Amir Khan Vs Maidana fight. We then proposed that if those figures increased for this fight we would look for one of three options:

1: 50/50 split on Irish sales over and above the last figures.
2: 20 percent on overall sales over and above the last figures.
We were prepared to risk that these deals could mean nothing to us if PPV or ticket sales did not increase. If they did both parties would benefit.
3: 80 / 20 split on nett revenue generated from the contest. This option was suggested because Khans team said they were taking all the risks if this fight did not sell.

Khans team offered 25 PERCENT ON PPV SALES OVER AND ABOVE 200000. The Khan Maidana fight did not get anywhere near this number, so this offer was potentially worthless.

The next requirements of Khans team were their three options on Paul if he won the fight.
1: Khan gets a rematch. Paul would be paid a cash amount.
2: Paul’s next fight would be promoted by Khan and they take a percentage.
3: Paul’s next fight again would be promoted by Khan and they take a percentage.

On option one we felt Paul as world champion should receive a 50/50 percentage split of the rematch. The cash amount offered was only equal to what we asked for in the first fight. We were willing to accept. options two and three.

These are the facts in black and white taken from our correspondence with team Khan Amir has said that we kept moving the goal posts . On the contrary we tried to move around the Blockage caused by their low offer, which by all accounts was even less than Peterson’s offer. Amir is a great fighter , therefore above all people he knows how tough this sport can be ,he also knows the dedication commitment and sacrifices boxers have to make .He should show respect to his fellow professionals and offer them fair purses.

Shah has said they gave in to so many of our demands obviously had they agreed to any of our requests we would not be in this position. We were never going to sell Paul short he is no walkover in the ring and we will make sure he is not outside it either Paul really wanted this fight and we feel that we did everything in our power to make it happen. Our requests were very reasonable in the circumstances. We regret that the Khan team could not agree. The general boxing public are the ones who are missing out on a great fight for this part of the world. ONE THAT WE KNOW PAUL WOULD HAVE WON AND RETAIN HIS UNBEATEN RECORD.

We wish the Khan team all the best in the future.

We would like to thank all the fans for their support. 2011 is going to be a big year for Paul McCloskey and his fans. He and his team believe he will be world champion by the end of this year.

Francie Mc Nicholl
Mc Closkey team

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Fair play. would like to see more of this kinda thing when deals break down.

Khan's team seem to be absolute fannies when it comes to money. But in the grand scheme of things, Paul McCloskey is a very average fighter who's not really done enough to even warrant a shot. Fighters who struggle with guys like Lauri should just be thankful they've somehow landed a shot at a world title. Besides, it's not like he's a young lad anymore.

He should have taken the money. Especially if his team were that 'certain' of him winning. As it stands, i think even his team know the chances of him beating Khan would be very slim, so they were obviously looking to cash in on it.

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Originally Posted by ono

Khan's team seem to be absolute fannies when it comes to money. But in the grand scheme of things, Paul McCloskey is a very average fighter who's not really done enough to even warrant a shot. Fighters who struggle with guys like Lauri should just be thankful they've somehow landed a shot at a world title. Besides, it's not like he's a young lad anymore.

He should have taken the money. Especially if his team were that 'certain' of him winning. As it stands, i think even his team know the chances of him beating Khan would be very slim, so they were obviously looking to cash in on it.

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Spot on.

Boxing would b better without khan. Fu cking arshole

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Originally Posted by Dropanuke

Boxing would b better without khan. Fu cking arshole

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This forum would be better without you.

I have a feeling that the winner of Bradley/Alexander will also be lowballed from Khan's team in the future, probably something like a 99/1 split in favor of Khan.

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Originally Posted by ono

Khan's team seem to be absolute fannies when it comes to money. But in the grand scheme of things, Paul McCloskey is a very average fighter who's not really done enough to even warrant a shot. Fighters who struggle with guys like Lauri should just be thankful they've somehow landed a shot at a world title. Besides, it's not like he's a young lad anymore.

He should have taken the money. Especially if his team were that 'certain' of him winning. As it stands, i think even his team know the chances of him beating Khan would be very slim, so they were obviously looking to cash in on it.

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Spot on.

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and to be even fairer it's not the first time someone in negotation with Khan has said they were taking the piss.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by ono

Khan's team seem to be absolute fannies when it comes to money. But in the grand scheme of things, Paul McCloskey is a very average fighter who's not really done enough to even warrant a shot. Fighters who struggle with guys like Lauri should just be thankful they've somehow landed a shot at a world title. Besides, it's not like he's a young lad anymore.

He should have taken the money. Especially if his team were that 'certain' of him winning. As it stands, i think even his team know the chances of him beating Khan would be very slim, so they were obviously looking to cash in on it.

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Spot on.

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and to be even fairer it's not the first time someone in negotation with Khan has said they were taking the piss.

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Yeah, this aswell.

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Originally Posted by Dropanuke

Boxing would b better without khan. Fu cking arshole

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This forum would be better without you.

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Cry baby

This seems to be a trend with Khan and his team. Even tonight on Sky Khan has been repeating the lies and tactfully avoided discussing what really happened with Ariza. Low balling opponents is just not cool. Even if you just want a stay busy opponent then you should compensate them sufficiently. It should never be less than 60/40 IMO and every fighter should adhere to it and adapt accordinly to the level of the opponent. Anything less is a slap in the face for what it takes to get in the ring.

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Originally Posted by miles

This seems to be a trend with Khan and his team. Even tonight on Sky Khan has been repeating the lies and tactfully avoided discussing what really happened with Ariza. Low balling opponents is just not cool. Even if you just want a stay busy opponent then you should compensate them sufficiently. It should never be less than 60/40 IMO and every fighter should adhere to it and adapt accordinly to the level of the opponent. Anything less is a slap in the face for what it takes to get in the ring.

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khan said the offer was not only 3 times, but maybe 4 or 5 times what he had in his last fight. Then said the Ariza split was because he didnt agree with what he was doing in training. I would like him to elaborate on that....

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Originally Posted by No Contest

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Originally Posted by miles

This seems to be a trend with Khan and his team. Even tonight on Sky Khan has been repeating the lies and tactfully avoided discussing what really happened with Ariza. Low balling opponents is just not cool. Even if you just want a stay busy opponent then you should compensate them sufficiently. It should never be less than 60/40 IMO and every fighter should adhere to it and adapt accordinly to the level of the opponent. Anything less is a slap in the face for what it takes to get in the ring.

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khan said the offer was not only 3 times, but maybe 4 or 5 times what he had in his last fight. Then said the Ariza split was because he didnt agree with what he was doing in training. I would like him to elaborate on that....

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Yeah, looked like a lot of bullshit to me. Same old, same old with Khan and Co.

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Originally Posted by Dropanuke

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by Dropanuke

Boxing would b better without khan. Fu cking arshole

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This forum would be better without you.

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Cry baby

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It's ok, i'm only jesting.

I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that

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Best post i've read this year. ;D

You earn X amount of money for your previous fight, would you like to earn twice as much as that and have a crack at a 'world' title?

It seems like a pretty straight forward choice to me?

That said Khans mob do sound like muppets in general.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that

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Agreed 100%. I don't see how McCloskey has deluded himself into thinking he deserves more. I don't enjoy watching his fights, he's not that entertaining. He's not world class and I don't think he ever will be. Take the fight now and hope to get lucky, because I don't see him getting himself into a box office position. - I'm glad he hasn't though, almost every other name in the frame is a fight I'd rather see.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

You earn X amount of money for your previous fight, would you like to earn twice as much as that and have a crack at a 'world' title?

It seems like a pretty straight forward choice to me?

That said Khans mob do sound like muppets in general.

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I really don't understand why he won't take the offer. The man would be making double what he made for what is 95% likely to be less than 3 minutes of work.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Memphis

You earn X amount of money for your previous fight, would you like to earn twice as much as that and have a crack at a 'world' title?

It seems like a pretty straight forward choice to me?

That said Khans mob do sound like muppets in general.

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I really don't understand why he won't take the offer. The man would be making double what he made for what is 95% likely to be less than 3 minutes of work.

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Well i think he'd last 3 or 4 rounds. Even then, on a round by round basis he'd technically be earning 4x as much as he did in his last fight.

Not sure what the deal is really. He'll be fighting in prizefighter in 18 months time anyway. May aswell cash in now.

Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.

I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins, he fights Khan again for a set cash amount on their promotion. Basically he has to beat Khan TWICE for probably less than £200,000. While Khan would cash in even coming off a loss (all these figures could be way off ;) ).

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.

I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins.

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:lolhaha: Somebody seriously needs to tap him on the shoulder, whisper in his ear and remind him "your Paul McCloskey. Your not winning"

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.

I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins, he fights Khan again for a set cash amount on their promotion. Basically he has to beat Khan TWICE for probably less than £200,000. While Khan would cash in even coming off a loss (all these figures could be way off ;) ).

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I agree, everyone is saying that this McCloskey character should take the deal but if he does win he should be able to cash in on it and not be handcuffed by Khan regarding his promotion and money.....gtfoh

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.

I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins.

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:lolhaha: Somebody seriously needs to tap him on the shoulder, whisper in his ear and remind him "your Paul McCloskey. Your not winning"

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In that case there is no need to take the fight, right? He might as well make that money defending his Euro title ;)

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.

I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins.

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:lolhaha: Somebody seriously needs to tap him on the shoulder, whisper in his ear and remind him "your Paul McCloskey. Your not winning"

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In that case there is no need to take the fight, right? He might as well make that money defending his Euro title ;)

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Unless Calzaghe makes a return and is in need of an opponent what other chance does McCloskey have of actually being the main event on a PPV show?

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.

I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins.

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:lolhaha: Somebody seriously needs to tap him on the shoulder, whisper in his ear and remind him "your Paul McCloskey. Your not winning"

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In that case there is no need to take the fight, right? He might as well make that money defending his Euro title ;)

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Unless Calzaghe makes a return and is in need of an opponent what other chance does McCloskey have of actually being the main event on a PPV show?

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What does PPV matter if you're not getting any money for it? And even worse, like you said, gets slaughtered in a round.

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Originally Posted by Dropanuke

Boxing would b better without khan. Fu cking arshole

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Explain how boxing would be better without one of its most exciting young boxers?

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that

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i dont really agree mate

khan will get millions while he gets 100k if that?

yeah khan should get the lions share but to that extent? paul still has to go through the training and the press and all the build upo and get to the arena and face the crowd

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that

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i dont really agree mate

khan will get millions while he gets 100k if that?

yeah khan should get the lions share but to that extent? paul still has to go through the training and the press and all the build upo and get to the arena and face the crowd

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The poor bastard.

Nobody really knows who is. To Joe Casual he's not much different to Graham Earl. He'll have been offered close to what he offered Peterson. It's not like a loss to Khan is going to impact his future earning potential. If he makes a good show of it it will probably improve things for him.

He might aswell lose to Khan on Sky Box Office, in front of a couple of thousand Irish fans and a couple of hundred thousand PPV'ers, in the UK at 10pm.

It surely beats fighting a few more tomato cans before losing to someone like Ortiz/Maidana at 3am in Foxwoods Casino, infront of about 75 travelling Irishman and a UK/Irish TV audience that's can't even compete with one of them middle of the night quiz phone-in shows that you get on challenge TV. That's if he's lucky. It might not even make the telly. ;D

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that

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i dont really agree mate

khan will get millions while he gets 100k if that?

yeah khan should get the lions share but to that extent? paul still has to go through the training and the press and all the build upo and get to the arena and face the crowd

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The poor bastard.

Nobody really knows who is. To Joe Casual he's not much different to Graham Earl. He'll have been offered close to what he offered Peterson. It's not like a loss to Khan is going to impact his future earning potential. If he makes a good show of it it will probably improve things for him.

He might aswell lose to Khan on Sky Box Office, in front of a couple of thousand Irish fans and a couple of hundred thousand PPV'ers, in the UK at 10pm.

It surely beats fighting a few more tomato cans before losing to someone like Ortiz/Maidana at 3am in Foxwoods Casino, infront of about 75 travelling Irishman and a UK/Irish TV audience that's can't even compete with one of them middle of the night quiz phone-in shows that you get on challenge TV. That's if he's lucky. It might not even make the telly. ;D

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i see the benefits of taking the fight dude

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that

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i dont really agree mate

khan will get millions while he gets 100k if that?

yeah khan should get the lions share but to that extent? paul still has to go through the training and the press and all the build upo and get to the arena and face the crowd

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The poor bastard.

Nobody really knows who is. To Joe Casual he's not much different to Graham Earl. He'll have been offered close to what he offered Peterson. It's not like a loss to Khan is going to impact his future earning potential. If he makes a good show of it it will probably improve things for him.

He might aswell lose to Khan on Sky Box Office, in front of a couple of thousand Irish fans and a couple of hundred thousand PPV'ers, in the UK at 10pm.

It surely beats fighting a few more tomato cans before losing to someone like Ortiz/Maidana at 3am in Foxwoods Casino, infront of about 75 travelling Irishman and a UK/Irish TV audience that's can't even compete with one of them middle of the night quiz phone-in shows that you get on challenge TV. That's if he's lucky. It might not even make the telly. ;D

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A loss to Khan does hurt his earning potential. He'll have to give up his Euro belt, which guarantees him dough against beatable opponents. If Khan totally humiliates him, as you all think, then he has to start all over again.

Has Salita been big news since getting slaughtered? How about Kevin Mitchell, Enzo Macc, Gary Lockett, Michael Jennings, etc, etc. Most careers go downhill after losing big fights.

McCloskey has been picked because Team Khan need a "gimme" for an April date. He is not meant to win. So, considering they are not offering "life changing money" and have a shitty rematch option, the guy has a case for refusing it.

Even though in a perfect world I agree he should take the fight purely for the cahnce to win the "world" title ;)

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I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that

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i dont really agree mate

khan will get millions while he gets 100k if that?

yeah khan should get the lions share but to that extent? paul still has to go through the training and the press and all the build upo and get to the arena and face the crowd

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The poor bastard.

Nobody really knows who is. To Joe Casual he's not much different to Graham Earl. He'll have been offered close to what he offered Peterson. It's not like a loss to Khan is going to impact his future earning potential. If he makes a good show of it it will probably improve things for him.

He might aswell lose to Khan on Sky Box Office, in front of a couple of thousand Irish fans and a couple of hundred thousand PPV'ers, in the UK at 10pm.

It surely beats fighting a few more tomato cans before losing to someone like Ortiz/Maidana at 3am in Foxwoods Casino, infront of about 75 travelling Irishman and a UK/Irish TV audience that's can't even compete with one of them middle of the night quiz phone-in shows that you get on challenge TV. That's if he's lucky. It might not even make the telly. ;D

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A loss to Khan does hurt his earning potential. He'll have to give up his Euro belt, which guarantees him dough against beatable opponents. If Khan totally humiliates him, as you all think, then he has to start all over again.

Has Salita been big news since getting slaughtered? How about Kevin Mitchell, Enzo Macc, Gary Lockett, Michael Jennings, etc, etc. Most careers go downhill after losing big fights.

McCloskey has been picked because Team Khan need a "gimme" for an April date. He is not meant to win. So, considering they are not offering "life changing money" and have a shitty rematch option, the guy has a case for refusing it.

Even though in a perfect world I agree he should take the fight purely for the cahnce to win the "world" title ;)

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I don't know. I'd take the chance now. Like you say, it's a world title fight. He has no chance of beating any of the other top guys at 140. He'd only have a very small chance of beating Khan and that's down to Khan's vulnerability.

He's as ready as he'll ever be. The flip side is, he could wait and perhaps get lucky. Somehow get a fight with a guy like Olusegun for a vacant title. Somehow.

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Double payday sounds perfectly reasonable, however, McCloskey's best payday to date is probably about £30,000, so £60,000 for facing Khan isn't exactly life changing money, is it? He could make more than that with a few defences of the Euro title, in winnable fights.

I believe the main problem with that deal is the rematch options. If McCloskey wins.

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:lolhaha: Somebody seriously needs to tap him on the shoulder, whisper in his ear and remind him "your Paul McCloskey. Your not winning"

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In that case there is no need to take the fight, right? He might as well make that money defending his Euro title ;)

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Unless Calzaghe makes a return and is in need of an opponent what other chance does McCloskey have of actually being the main event on a PPV show?

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What does PPV matter if you're not getting any money for it? And even worse, like you said, gets slaughtered in a round.

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Come on now. You know damn well every fighter would love to main event a PPV at least once in there career. This is his best and I'm damn positive his only chance to do it. Yeah it's about a 95% given he gets massacred in a round. 5% chance is never worth the gamble. Under normal circumstances that is. These ain't normal circumstances. There's no denying McCloskey's crappiness. His skills shouldn't even be called skills when compare to that of his opponents. His opponent skill package is one of boxings best. But his opponent also owns one of Boxings worse if not the worse chin in the sport. He's been laid the fuck out before and will be laid the fuck out again soon. So that 5% chance is worth the gamble. He doesn't have the skills to be able to hit Con the normal way. So why try? My advice to McCloskey (if his dumb ass actually decides to take the fight) is put your head down, swing hay makers and pray to God one lands. Who knows? Maybe God will feel sorry for him. Maybe God feels like fucking with Con. Either way it beats the alternative. Which is McCloskey fighting a fellow scrub in some bingo hall for drive-through money and losing. A very possible outcome.

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Come on now. You know damn well every fighter would love to main event a PPV at least once in there career. This is his best and I'm damn positive his only chance to do it. Yeah it's about a 95% given he gets massacred in a round. 5% chance is never worth the gamble. Under normal circumstances that is. These ain't normal circumstances. There's no denying McCloskey's crappiness. His skills shouldn't even be called skills when compare to that of his opponents. His opponent skill package is one of boxings best. But his opponent also owns one of Boxings worse if not the worse chin in the sport. He's been laid the fuck out before and will be laid the fuck out again soon. So that 5% chance is worth the gamble. He doesn't have the skills to be able to hit Con the normal way. So why try? My advice to McCloskey (if his dumb ass actually decides to take the fight) is put your head down, swing hay makers and pray to God one lands. Who knows? Maybe God will feel sorry for him. Maybe God feels like fucking with Con. Either way it beats the alternative. Which is McCloskey fighting a fellow scrub in some bingo hall for drive-through money and losing. A very possible outcome.

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Maybe its not his only chance. I'm wondering if they are banking on Bradley giving up the WBC belt because I'd heard they were pushing for a WBC elimanator. Maybe he gets a fight with Olusegun which is winnable, sneaks a world title and then positions himself for a unification fight. Tis a long shot of that happening though.

That is an absolutely ridiculous and insulting offer from the Khan camp.

Like others have said, though, McCloskey isn't going to get much better, and should really take the chance. He can just complain after, especially if he's made a good account of himself. Although the contract does bog him down for a long time. I'm sure the rights to the next 3 fights could be removed from it somehow.

Was wondering though, surely he'd make a lot of money from publicity, TV appearances and such leading up, radio?
There would be a lot of hype with it being Khan of course, but I'm not too sure how much money that brings in really. Does anyone know as I'm quite curious now?

McCloskey has already got enough exposure from just being mentioned now he can probably get some bigger fights on his terms. Like I said before just wait about 2 fights and Khans gonna get beat then he can probably get a 50/50 split and options on Khans next 3 fights. :p

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McCloskey has already got enough exposure from just being mentioned now he can probably get some bigger fights on his terms. Like I said before just wait about 2 fights and Khans gonna get beat then he can probably get a 50/50 split and options on Khans next 3 fights. :p

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I don't think he has. In a few months time he'll be back to being known as 'That Irish guy Khan was going to fight" ;D

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McCloskey has already got enough exposure from just being mentioned now he can probably get some bigger fights on his terms. Like I said before just wait about 2 fights and Khans gonna get beat then he can probably get a 50/50 split and options on Khans next 3 fights. :p

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I don't think he has. In a few months time he'll be back to being known as 'That Irish guy Khan was going to fight" ;D

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I agree with that. He is currently just a name in an article. If he takes the fight, he fights on PPV TV and everyone will know who he is.

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McCloskey has already got enough exposure from just being mentioned now he can probably get some bigger fights on his terms. Like I said before just wait about 2 fights and Khans gonna get beat then he can probably get a 50/50 split and options on Khans next 3 fights. :p

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I don't think he has. In a few months time he'll be back to being known as 'That Irish guy Khan was going to fight" ;D

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I agree with that. He is currently just a name in an article. If he takes the fight, he fights on PPV TV and everyone will know who he is.

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If he gave a good account of himself, he'd give himself a really good platform to build from.

Obviously if Khan battered him silly, he'd be known as 'That Irish guy who Khan battered'.

Still a risk worth taking though.

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McCloskey has already got enough exposure from just being mentioned now he can probably get some bigger fights on his terms. Like I said before just wait about 2 fights and Khans gonna get beat then he can probably get a 50/50 split and options on Khans next 3 fights. :p

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I don't think he has. In a few months time he'll be back to being known as 'That Irish guy Khan was going to fight" ;D

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I agree with that. He is currently just a name in an article. If he takes the fight, he fights on PPV TV and everyone will know who he is.

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If he gave a good account of himself, he'd give himself a really good platform to build from.

Obviously if Khan battered him silly, he'd be known as 'That Irish guy who Khan battered'.

Still a risk worth taking though.

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Even if Khan took him apart, he could use it as an opportunity to build. Nobody now remembers Sergio Martinez as 'That Argie Margarito battered' do they?

Legacies aren't built by taking an easy fight for the same money at home. Sometimes, you gotta take a chance. If you get battered, use it as a learning curve. Khan did (although he had significent advantages) and Martinez is the prime example of this.

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McCloskey has already got enough exposure from just being mentioned now he can probably get some bigger fights on his terms. Like I said before just wait about 2 fights and Khans gonna get beat then he can probably get a 50/50 split and options on Khans next 3 fights. :p

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If Con is just gonna be facing McCloskey type fighterts he won't be losing any time soon