Does anyone know the score of this fight before ko?
Without stroppy replies and cry baby remarks
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Does anyone know the score of this fight before ko?
Without stroppy replies and cry baby remarks
Boxing rec is your friend for this kind of thing. Tyson pretty much lost every round as far as I can recall. He provided Jeff Lacy with the perfect plan to tackle Calzaghe. Walk forward and eat punches without even moving your head. Poor old Tyson, he was pretty shot.
Agree with Miles. No mention on boxrec for some reason but it's fair to say Lennox probably won every round. Mike just couldn't get past that jab and was getting hit with every straight right Lennox threw.
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Originally Posted by koppas
Nah, im pretty sure I remember reading that Mike at least wan the first on all three cards but then hed shot his bolt really. Just fighting for the money, no real desire. Hadnt trained properly. If he had though and he could have kept up the pace?
Which is why id say hed win if both had fought in their primes and oddly enough I think if Lewis hadnt have accepted step asside money that Tyson did actually train at that point still and would have probably beaten lewis who was struggling with mercer then getting knocked out by Rahman.
He must have won the first, Lewis did back off but took over after Tyson had spent his load after 3 minutes, which shows you how much of a shadow of a fighter he was at that time.
Tyson himself has said in interviews that he didnt care about his career/had the desire since 1990,i am a Tyson fan so this will sound biased but i honestly believe that had Tyson had the desire (which is wot really matters )then he would beaten Lewis no problem,even a 2002 Tyson that wanted it... but a 2002 Tyson didnt want it so there u go,i remember the buildup 2 it and quite a few boxing insiders etc believed Tyson wld win but nobody expected the Tyson 2 turn up that did,as sed b4 Tyson himself didnt care about his career/image in boxing/wotever,it woz all abt money and hype for him at that stage,didnt care abt the glory,the ball was in his court and he clda dun so much more with it even at that stage but the point is..he just didnt care and Lewis dominated the fight and deserved the win...... albiet against a faded lucklustre 2002 Tyson
Young Tyson destroys young Lewis; mature Lewis outboxes and beats any version of Tyson, even the young, if he gets past the first three-four rounds.
That's on a good day, when Lewis is prepared, interested, careful and sharp.
If I remember correctly, Tyson won the first round and Lewis won the rest of the fight.
Even as a BIG Lewis fan I still say that 1988 Mike Tyson beats any version of Lennox Lewis.Quote:
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I have to admit though, my belief in this is not as strong as it once was :-\
I think he did win the first but funny thing about it is Tyson himself said the 1st was his downfall because he said Lennox caught him with a body shot that he was not able to recover from throughout....Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Did not know that but I am sure he would have gassed out any way. He did say in the interview he was lucky he was not killed by Lewis, basically for coming into the ring not fully prepared, as he was wiping a bump on Lennox head.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnI think he did win the first but funny thing about it is Tyson himself said the 1st was his downfall because he said Lennox caught him with a body shot that he was not able to recover from throughout....Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
This was probably the only time I felt sorry for Mike Tyson.
Tyson was truly pathetic in this fight & if Lewis wasn't so unnecessarily cautious, he could have starched Tyson inside of 3 rounds, without breaking sweat.
How Tyson managed to convince so many that he had any kind of chance in that fight is beyond me.
That is so true, even Manny was going crazy at Lennox and this is why I think prime Tyson beats him, because Lennox was too cautious most of the time.Quote:
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Lewis actrually went inot the fight looking to punish Tyson for the things he said...To this day Lewis still holds a grudge for Tyson biting him....When you watch the fight again you can see Lewis held back on more then one occassion....You can also tell the second he landed that big shot in the eight he knew Tyson was done before he hit the canvas
Tyson won the first round but there after Lewis had control and won all rounds after. Tyson was shot and weighed more in this fight then in any other in his career. The punishment Tyson took that night was his red badge of courage, he could have said " no mas " and ended the night early, HE GAVE UP ON WINNING THE FIGHT BUT STAYED IN THERE AND TOOK AS MUCH AS HE COULD. I'm not old mikes biggest fan but he went out like a champion that night...you can die in there and the man went out on his stool
Think Lewis would of beat him in prime as well Tyson beat a lot of b rate fighters in his prime. Then goes to lose to fucking Douglas then crushed by Holyfeild he never beat the elite really.
i used to hate tyson in the 80s esp. when he beat up one of my favorite boxers Larry The easton Assassin Holmes. I rooted for McNeeley, seldon and all the tomato cans, right up to the 2 Holyfield fights. I even rooted for Botha. But something changed in me after that fight. I started to care about Tyson the human being. You know, feel some sympathy/compassion for him as a man, for everything he went through, and how totally unprepared he was for the stardom/finances/marriage etc. I mean really even I with a relatively stable upbringing compared to that would find it hard at age 20 to be thrust into all that. what a toxic mix for tyson. and he never really got it together until maybe this year or so. I felt horrible to see him standing tough and taking those shots from Lewis, and felt equally bad to see him lose to Williams and McBride.
Call me Mr. Empathy, go ahead.
p.s. and i'm not by any means a big tyson fan, seriously, but this guy was 1 tough mother. what a fucking chin he had, and we didnt find out until the Douglas fight and beyond. I saw him take some monster shots from big strong hitters, and he could dig down and fire back equally monstrous shots, suck it up, and he never quit, ever that i saw, and proved he wasnt one of these guys who when the going gets tough, take a frikkin hike. He took those shots, took 'em hard and kept his dignity and like 1 poster said 'went out on his shield'. Boxing sorely needs another mike tyson. The impact he made---hype or not---is still being felt and mentioned to this day.
p.p.s and i think the mike tyson who rocked larry holmes and mike spinks in 1988 would shred lennox lewis. too much head movement and feinting and speed for the big Lummox. tyson KO lewis round 5. ***OH, AND LET ME GET THIS 1 LAST JAB IN (I PROMISE ITS THE LAST, BLOKES): NO FRIKKIN WAY LEWIS' CHIN WITHSTANDS TYSON'S RAZORBLADE MISSILES. NFW!!!
Mr Empathy I agree, he had nearly a 20 inch neck so could take a hell of a beating. Against Lewis it seemed that's what he wanted.
holy mother, 20 inches?.....too strong for his own good.