What if this happened now? Made me think after hearing them talk to eachother on Steve bunce radio, bearing in mind Roy was past it when calzaghe beat him so it's the same situation for froch
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What if this happened now? Made me think after hearing them talk to eachother on Steve bunce radio, bearing in mind Roy was past it when calzaghe beat him so it's the same situation for froch
Froch is a decent, strong fighter with a good chin and heart ........ but Calzaghe was a class act. Really really skilled, fast hand and a decent punch. He had a very good chin and I think he would have been much to slick for Carl. Even now, I think he would have the perfect style to get past Froch.
Not now Joe has been out the ring for too long. At his best the Joe wins.
Even now??? And that means if Joe trains for it.
Would never happen now because chances are Calzaghe would lose.
Calzaghe would dominate Froch from pillar to post. I like Froch a lot but Calzaghe had just the style to give him problems: faster, good chin, and a competitive spirit eclipsing even Froch's. Calzaghe would beat up Froch for 12 rounds and win on the cards.
He has been out of the ring for to long for me,he would have to take awarm up fight he might have lost his speed with his age and been inactive for so long. Froch might be able to hussle him and take enough rounds to win if the fight happened now.
If the fight happened after the Roy fight Calazaghe would of still beat Froch easy even though Calzaghe is best his best. Jermaine Taylor was a nightmare for Froch till he ran out of gas, Calzaghe would of been his worst nightmare if they fought before Joe retired.
Primes , then Calzaghe wins via UD points , Froch is to one paced,
Prime vs prime I think it would similar to Calzaghe-Lacy. It would just be a one-sided ass-kicking.
Now? Froch stops Calzaghe. He's been gone for far too long and was already on the slide when he quit.
U r right they are both on slide and froch wins. In primes, calzaghe wins but needs facial surgery
If they fought now Froch would batter him. Joe's been out the ring for 2 and half years, is 39 and went through a spell of drug use. Any comeback wouldn't go very well, especially against a tough, world class operator like Froch. I think he got out at the right time as he was starting to slide. Had he fought Froch after the Jones Jr fight I think Joe would have won a pretty wide UD. Prime for prime Joe wins comfortably too, his style was all wrong for Froch. But now, Froch wins.
How is Froch on the slide? He's, pretty inarguably IMO, better than ever at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
Prime for Prime I think Joe would win a UD, if it happened now (even if Joe trained) Froch KO 1!
You are forgetting Joe has been dancing so is in good condition and could go at least 5 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are forgetting Joe has been dancing so is in good condition and could go at least 5 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
if happened now i would have to pick froch, calzaghe been away to long, plus in his last 2 fights calzaghe got decked in the 1st round, calzaghe was on the decline & admited it himself.
Joe earned his retirement and has been living large a bit too long.
Dancing is not the same as swimming my friend !!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are forgetting Joe has been dancing so is in good condition and could go at least 5 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I wouldn't be surprised to see Calzaghe beat him actually, but if it ever happened it would be better for Calzaghe to have a tune up first to gauge whether he is able to still fight at a pace or not. I think even now and as impressive as Froch has been, that Calzaghe is just too good. Froch is borderline elite, but Calzaghe for me was elite.
Different leagues. Even now Calzaghe would find a way to compensate for any loss of speed/stamina.
Calzaghe PTS.
I'd have loved to have seen Froch knock him out aswell. Not that it would have happened.
You know what? I agree. I think Joe could do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I'm a big JC fan, but no way on earth he could come back and beat Froch. Froch is young, prime, hungry. Calzaghe was getting floored by old men and even said himself that if he had've fought again he would prbaly have lost.
Nobody thought that Leonard could jump up two divisions after a three year hiatus and beat Hagler either.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Joe Calzaghe is not Sugar Ray Leonard. Then again, Froch is not Marvin Hagler.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitNobody thought that Leonard could jump up two divisions after a three year hiatus and beat Hagler either.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by CFHJoe Calzaghe is not Sugar Ray Leonard. Then again, Froch is not Marvin Hagler.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitNobody thought that Leonard could jump up two divisions after a three year hiatus and beat Hagler either.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
And their you go.
Calzaghe would have had the measure of Froch, whether it be prime for prime, or when it was mooted about 2.5 years ago.
Froch would have need to use his jab & box to stand any chance against Calzaghe & back in 2008, he hadn't learnt to do that.
Even then, he probably would have been too slow to do it anyway.
If we're talking about now, the fight would be a farce & should not happen anyway.