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Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II
Getting ready to watch the rematch of their 2010 fight. Unfortunately, I didn't get to watch the first fight. There showing scenes from that first fight, however, and it looks like it was a hell of a fight. Ivan says he's ready to take his title back. I hope he's right. This Segura is a tough cookie. Let's hope the former champ has a few tricks up his sleeve.
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Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II
desperate to see this, has it started?
is there a stream anyone can post?
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I give credit to Calderon for taking the fight. Especially in Mexico. But I think he's getting smashed. And smashed badly
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Violent Demise
I give credit to Calderon for taking the fight. Especially in Mexico. But I think he's getting smashed. And smashed badly
Could teach Naz a trick or 2 about how a champ comes back from a defeat
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I feel Calderon very motivated with this fight. It seems that the ring is small, but apparently he was expecting that to happen and prepared for it. If someone is watching please post the updates. I will not be able to watch :eek:
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$49.95 ppv....had to pass on that. Updates much appreciated.
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armyash
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Violent Demise
I give credit to Calderon for taking the fight. Especially in Mexico. But I think he's getting smashed. And smashed badly
Could teach Naz a trick or 2 about how a champ comes back from a defeat
Yes indeed.
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Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II
If anyone is looking for a link, its in the usual section.
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Chavez sr. looks good there.
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Segura coming out very aggresive...
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I lived in Mexicali as a kid and have seen a handful of fights there.
Really wished I could be there tonight...
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Segura leaves himself in such a lurch when he reacheds in but Calderon can't make him pay
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Wow!!! those were vicious bodyshots...
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It's over. Segura by 3 round ko.
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He just walked into him and wouldn't be denied. Power all the difference in the world
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all i gotta say is that Segura is a dirty fucker, probably broke records on how many consecutive low blows he hit Calderon with, i think he broke Froch's record for most low blows in a fight
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Those body shots by Segura were just nasty.
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Disappointing effort from Calderon. Shouldn't of even took the fight if he was gonna coward out like that
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ElTerribleMorales
all i gotta say is that Segura is a dirty fucker, probably broke records on how many consecutive low blows he hit Calderon with, i think he broke Froch's record for most low blows in a fight
It was only 1 real low blow I saw, most were right on the money or on the belt line.
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I didnt think it was possible to hit Calderon with a low blow.:p He was swinging at the ground or what? Calderon looked like he got one in the bread basket, thats one of those I cant move deals...
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generalbulldog
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ElTerribleMorales
all i gotta say is that Segura is a dirty fucker, probably broke records on how many consecutive low blows he hit Calderon with, i think he broke Froch's record for most low blows in a fight
It was only 1 real low blow I saw, most were right on the money or on the belt line.
landed a hell of a lot of shots on the hips and landed over 6 obvious low blows in the 2nd round alone, IMO just as dirty as Mayol
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Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II
That punch to the stomach wasn't low. That's the one that made Ivan punk out
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Violent Demise
That punch to the stomach wasn't low. That's the one that made Ivan punk out
doesn't take away the other flurries below the belt that Segura landed before that, hell one of the last punches he landed was right on Calderon's crotch, he wasn't gonna win a decision in Mexico, the ref warned Segura only once after repeated low blows and then Segura went right back to it afterwards, and well you know there was no way in hell he was going to KO Segura, what did you expect him to do, take the ass whipping for the hell of it?
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ElTerribleMorales
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Violent Demise
That punch to the stomach wasn't low. That's the one that made Ivan punk out
doesn't take away the other flurries below the belt that Segura landed before that, hell one of the last punches he landed was right on Calderon's crotch, he wasn't gonna win a decision in Mexico, the ref warned Segura only once after repeated low blows and then Segura went right back to it afterwards, and well you know there was no way in hell he was going to KO Segura, what did you expect him to do, take the ass whipping for the hell of it?
Calderon wasn't going to win a decision in Mexico cuz he wasn't going to do enough to deserve a decision win. It was obvious from the start Calderon had no chance. His face said it all. He fought scared from the beginning. It almost looks like he went to the ropes to look for a place to take a knee. It's obvious he could of got up.
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Calderons reign speaks for itself but LB, borderline, legal....it wasn't going to matter...he was moved when he got touched throughout, had zero to keep Segura off of him. Matter of time really.
Segura may want to choose wisely when moving up to 112, 115....he's as slow as they come.
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Spicoli
Calderons reign speaks for itself but LB, borderline, legal....it wasn't going to matter...he was moved when he got touched throughout, had zero to keep Segura off of him. Matter of time really.
Segura may want to choose wisely when moving up to 112, 115....he's as slow as they come.
Him and Luis Concepcion would be damn good
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Calderon has made a career of fighting guys that are noticeably bigger than him. He was more than brave to take this fight in Mexico, where he had to know he wasn't gonna get a decision win. Segura DID get warned for low blows, and kept on hitting Calderon low. But the size difference was too great. Calderon wasn't going to hurt Segura, no way, no how.
Don't know what Ivan is going to do. Like the commentators said... if Segura moves up in weight, like he should, Ivan could probably still beat most 108-pounders. But he's got nothing left to prove... has had a stellar career.
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2 bean and cheese burritos and he's in the next weight class easy. Put some Carne asada in them and he could fight Cazres at super fly.
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Violent Demise
Disappointing effort from Calderon. Shouldn't of even took the fight if he was gonna coward out like that
That right to the stomach was fucken brutal.
It landed right on the stomach.
VD, you ever been to Mexicali? All I gotta say is bitches like crazy.
All you gotta do is show up, cuz I'm sure you roll clean.
Shoes, clothes, fade (I'm assuming you rock the fade. Not sure) and the just come to you.
Was there a few weeks ago with cousins.
Still can't catch up to my sleep.
We left the club with 10 girls and there was only 3 of us.
If you never been you should def. go...
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No Contest
2 bean and cheese burritos and he's in the next weight class easy. Put some Carne asada in them and he could fight Cazres at super fly.
if anything that'll make him lose weight seeing how he'd probably get the runs lol
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I really don't see Segura as anybody too special. His biggest asset is his size and he will lose most of that when he moves up in weight. He's definately not top10p4p as ring magazine says. Lets face it , he beat an old Calderon . Credit to him , but theres much more boxers that should be ranked above him p4p. Btw what happened to Hernandez vs Castillo?
and if anyone had a stream for Luis Concepcion fight id appreciate it . ;)
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gest12645
I really don't see Segura as anybody too special. His biggest asset is his size and he will lose most of that when he moves up in weight. He's definately not top10p4p as ring magazine says. Lets face it , he beat an old Calderon . Credit to him , but theres much more boxers that should be ranked above him p4p. Btw what happened to Hernandez vs Castillo?
and if anyone had a stream for Luis Concepcion fight id appreciate it . ;)
I expect Concepcion to knock out "mini" Tyson early.
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CutMeMick
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Violent Demise
Disappointing effort from Calderon. Shouldn't of even took the fight if he was gonna coward out like that
That right to the stomach was fucken brutal.
It landed right on the stomach.
VD, you ever been to Mexicali? All I gotta say is bitches like crazy.
All you gotta do is show up, cuz I'm sure you roll clean.
Shoes, clothes, fade (I'm assuming you rock the fade. Not sure) and the just come to you.
Was there a few weeks ago with cousins.
Still can't catch up to my sleep.
We left the club with 10 girls and there was only 3 of us.
If you never been you should def. go...
Yes I been to Mexicali. And yes you are correct. They just give it away. I had heard stories from my uncle and older cousins about how it is before I went. I didn't believe a damn thing they were saying. To good to be true. They had to be bullshitting. They were not. Was last there in 09. Seriously need to get back there.
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For sure, Concepcion would also knock Pongsaklak Wonj....... out if the fight was made or at least a comfortable points win
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Disappointing effort from Calderon. Shouldn't of even took the fight if he was gonna coward out like that
That right to the stomach was fucken brutal.
It landed right on the stomach.
VD, you ever been to Mexicali? All I gotta say is bitches like crazy.
All you gotta do is show up, cuz I'm sure you roll clean.
Shoes, clothes, fade (I'm assuming you rock the fade. Not sure) and the just come to you.
Was there a few weeks ago with cousins.
Still can't catch up to my sleep.
We left the club with 10 girls and there was only 3 of us.
If you never been you should def. go...
Yes I been to Mexicali. And yes you are correct. They just give it away. I had heard stories from my uncle and older cousins about how it is before I went. I didn't believe a damn thing they were saying. To good to be true. They had to be bullshitting. They were not. Was last there in 09. Seriously need to get back there.
You def. gotta head back...
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wow I take my words back. Conception has been ko'd by Hernan Marquez in the 11 th .
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I believe size iz one of Seguraz best assetz but also power i think he iz very heavy handed. Movin up in weight will only give him problemz though as hiz best assetz wont give him as much of an advantage.
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
I believe size iz one of Seguraz best assetz but also power i think he iz very heavy handed. Movin up in weight will only give him problemz though as hiz best assetz wont give him as much of an advantage.
a hard left hook to the balls will give him an advantage in any weight class, IMO though Segura is too slow and predictable for the bigger guys and will get found out, only ran Calderon down due do size, age, and low blows
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gest12645
wow I take my words back. Conception has been ko'd by Hernan Marquez in the 11 th .
Just saw that too. Didn't see that coming. Surely they will rematch ?