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    Default Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    That punch to the stomach wasn't low. That's the one that made Ivan punk out
    doesn't take away the other flurries below the belt that Segura landed before that, hell one of the last punches he landed was right on Calderon's crotch, he wasn't gonna win a decision in Mexico, the ref warned Segura only once after repeated low blows and then Segura went right back to it afterwards, and well you know there was no way in hell he was going to KO Segura, what did you expect him to do, take the ass whipping for the hell of it?

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    Default Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    That punch to the stomach wasn't low. That's the one that made Ivan punk out
    doesn't take away the other flurries below the belt that Segura landed before that, hell one of the last punches he landed was right on Calderon's crotch, he wasn't gonna win a decision in Mexico, the ref warned Segura only once after repeated low blows and then Segura went right back to it afterwards, and well you know there was no way in hell he was going to KO Segura, what did you expect him to do, take the ass whipping for the hell of it?
    Calderon wasn't going to win a decision in Mexico cuz he wasn't going to do enough to deserve a decision win. It was obvious from the start Calderon had no chance. His face said it all. He fought scared from the beginning. It almost looks like he went to the ropes to look for a place to take a knee. It's obvious he could of got up.

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    Calderons reign speaks for itself but LB, borderline, legal....it wasn't going to matter...he was moved when he got touched throughout, had zero to keep Segura off of him. Matter of time really.

    Segura may want to choose wisely when moving up to 112, 115....he's as slow as they come.

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    Default Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Calderons reign speaks for itself but LB, borderline, legal....it wasn't going to matter...he was moved when he got touched throughout, had zero to keep Segura off of him. Matter of time really.

    Segura may want to choose wisely when moving up to 112, 115....he's as slow as they come.
    Him and Luis Concepcion would be damn good

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    Default Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

    Calderon has made a career of fighting guys that are noticeably bigger than him. He was more than brave to take this fight in Mexico, where he had to know he wasn't gonna get a decision win. Segura DID get warned for low blows, and kept on hitting Calderon low. But the size difference was too great. Calderon wasn't going to hurt Segura, no way, no how.

    Don't know what Ivan is going to do. Like the commentators said... if Segura moves up in weight, like he should, Ivan could probably still beat most 108-pounders. But he's got nothing left to prove... has had a stellar career.

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    Default Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

    2 bean and cheese burritos and he's in the next weight class easy. Put some Carne asada in them and he could fight Cazres at super fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    2 bean and cheese burritos and he's in the next weight class easy. Put some Carne asada in them and he could fight Cazres at super fly.
    if anything that'll make him lose weight seeing how he'd probably get the runs lol

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    Default Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

    I really don't see Segura as anybody too special. His biggest asset is his size and he will lose most of that when he moves up in weight. He's definately not top10p4p as ring magazine says. Lets face it , he beat an old Calderon . Credit to him , but theres much more boxers that should be ranked above him p4p. Btw what happened to Hernandez vs Castillo?

    and if anyone had a stream for Luis Concepcion fight id appreciate it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by gest12645 View Post
    I really don't see Segura as anybody too special. His biggest asset is his size and he will lose most of that when he moves up in weight. He's definately not top10p4p as ring magazine says. Lets face it , he beat an old Calderon . Credit to him , but theres much more boxers that should be ranked above him p4p. Btw what happened to Hernandez vs Castillo?

    and if anyone had a stream for Luis Concepcion fight id appreciate it .
    I expect Concepcion to knock out "mini" Tyson early.

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    Default Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

    For sure, Concepcion would also knock Pongsaklak Wonj....... out if the fight was made or at least a comfortable points win

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    Default Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gest12645 View Post
    I really don't see Segura as anybody too special. His biggest asset is his size and he will lose most of that when he moves up in weight. He's definately not top10p4p as ring magazine says. Lets face it , he beat an old Calderon . Credit to him , but theres much more boxers that should be ranked above him p4p. Btw what happened to Hernandez vs Castillo?

    and if anyone had a stream for Luis Concepcion fight id appreciate it .
    I expect Concepcion to knock out "mini" Tyson early.
    Damn wth happened...

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    I believe size iz one of Seguraz best assetz but also power i think he iz very heavy handed. Movin up in weight will only give him problemz though as hiz best assetz wont give him as much of an advantage.

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    Default Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina View Post
    I believe size iz one of Seguraz best assetz but also power i think he iz very heavy handed. Movin up in weight will only give him problemz though as hiz best assetz wont give him as much of an advantage.
    a hard left hook to the balls will give him an advantage in any weight class, IMO though Segura is too slow and predictable for the bigger guys and will get found out, only ran Calderon down due do size, age, and low blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina View Post
    I believe size iz one of Seguraz best assetz but also power i think he iz very heavy handed. Movin up in weight will only give him problemz though as hiz best assetz wont give him as much of an advantage.
    a hard left hook to the balls will give him an advantage in any weight class, IMO though Segura is too slow and predictable for the bigger guys and will get found out, only ran Calderon down due do size, age, and low blows
    I havent seen the fight yet but it doessnt seem lik Segura to throw low blowz lik that. Specially against a fighter he already smashed with ease. Ill have to watch the fight though.

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    Default Re: Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Disappointing effort from Calderon. Shouldn't of even took the fight if he was gonna coward out like that
    That right to the stomach was fucken brutal.
    It landed right on the stomach.

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