Is Mayweather Jr. really worth the PPV mega-bucks he gets for his "fights"?

I honestly don't get it, i'd much rather watch a couple dozen other fighters that aren't even on PPV, then sit though one of Mayweather Jr's snoozefests, much less have to pay money to see him. Jr. fights like once a year, and gets these huge paydays, what's so special about a Mayweather fight, the action in them all seems mediocre to me.

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Well he does the sales so he obviously is. If you don't want to watch him, an easy solution is not to buy his PPVs, I presume no one is forcing you.

It's not like he's earning money for regular HBO appearances, he's generating them through his own PPVs at a 1m+ sales a time.

He has probably the best resume of any active fighter aside from possibly Manny Pacquiao, and he gets in the ring and has to fight (which is what it is). Just like Pacquiao, he can't be held responsible for being so dominant, he's there to win.

Perhaps so many people buy his PPV hoping that finally he will be humilitated? How would anyone want to miss that?

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Originally Posted by therealremi

Perhaps so many people buy his PPV hoping that finally he will be humilitated? How would anyone want to miss that?

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Right but they're still paying for his PPVs. Also Mayweather is a big star in the black community, you should see my facebook page when he fights, people with no interest in boxing (particularly women) are all talking about his fight. I can only imagine it is even more so over in the States.

Like I said, as long as he pulls in those numbers, he's worth money he's getting, regardless of why people are tuning in.

I guess there are people who think boxing is all about getting in the middle of the ring and throwing wild punches from beginning to end. Floyd is a master of defense and finess when it comes to style. Seems most people don't like that, that's fine.

The fights he is in generate a certain number of PPV buys. This in turn correlates to the purse he receives. So yes, he is worth exactly what he receives. Whether he is 'exciting' or not.

Obviously yes since his so called "fans" keep giving it to him. Let's say he isn't should he be a good guy and give back the part he doesn't deserve ? Floyd and any other fighter is worth whatever they can get. They don't rob any of us for our cash. Everyone purchases the ppv's freely. Ask roy jones, t hearns, and vargas how stupid floyd is for asking for ridiculous amounts of cash. Constant threads about a guy not even fighting is part of the reason he gets the money he does. His haters put way more in his pocket than his fans do......just to have them complain about it. If a greeter at wal mart works out a deal where he gets 40 bucks an hour is he wrong for cashing his paychecks or are the people giving it to him the dumb ones ?

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Perhaps so many people buy his PPV hoping that finally he will be humilitated? How would anyone want to miss that?

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Yep I am one who does this.

Whilst I hate him his skills are undeniable and for those 2 reason he is worth paying for.

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Also Mayweather is a big star in the black community, you should see my facebook page when he fights, people with no interest in boxing (particularly women) are all talking about his fight. I can only imagine it is even more so over in the States.

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That's probably due to media hype? There are a few black top P4P fighters that the black communities could cheer for instead.

No not at all. Dude is boring as hell to watch. Talented yes, boring dreadfully yes. Since he also rarely tests himself vs. top flight competition the fight are usually one sided. He's a defensive cutie trying to avoid contact at all costs.

Last 6 fights on PPV:

Mosley - 1st 3 rounds were interesting, then a blowout
JMM - 1st round were interesting, then a blowout
Hatton - Cortez never allowed Ricky into the fight but it was a great KO
Oscar - Boring as hell
Baldomir - Boring as hell
Zab - 1st 4 rounds were interesting, then a blowout

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No not at all. Dude is boring as hell to watch. Talented yes, boring dreadfully yes. Since he also rarely tests himself vs. top flight competition the fight are usually one sided. He's a defensive cutie trying to avoid contact at all costs.

Last 6 fights on PPV:

Mosley - 1st 3 rounds were interesting, then a blowout
JMM - 1st round were interesting, then a blowout
Hatton - Cortez never allowed Ricky into the fight but it was a great KO
Oscar - Boring as hell
Baldomir - Boring as hell
Zab - 1st 4 rounds were interesting, then a blowout

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You cannot blame for blowing out Shane and Zab, that is class fighter.

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Originally Posted by jdonaher1

No not at all. Dude is boring as hell to watch. Talented yes, boring dreadfully yes. Since he also rarely tests himself vs. top flight competition the fight are usually one sided. He's a defensive cutie trying to avoid contact at all costs.

Last 6 fights on PPV:

Mosley - 1st 3 rounds were interesting, then a blowout
JMM - 1st round were interesting, then a blowout
Hatton - Cortez never allowed Ricky into the fight but it was a great KO
Oscar - Boring as hell
Baldomir - Boring as hell
Zab - 1st 4 rounds were interesting, then a blowout

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Isn't that the name of the game, hit and not be hit. But as far as his PPV's, yes he is boring to watch for the most part. It's the casual boxing fan who buy's the PPV which makes the numbers go up. The people who only watch 3-4 fights a year, the pacquiao, floyd, mosley fights.

Floyd did 1.05 million PPV buys with JMM and he did 1.4 million buys with Mosley. Now let's do the math.

1.05 million x $54.99= $57,739,500
1.4 million x $54.99= $76,986,000

Total for 2 of those fights for ppv revenue= $134,725,500

And that's just the ppv revenue only, we're not talking about the gate and also possibly he is pulling people to Vegas to spend their cash on vacations and betting in the city. So hell yeah he's worth it in America's capitalistic society. He's generating tens of millions of dollars for everyone of his fights now. He deserves his pay.

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No not at all. Dude is boring as hell to watch. Talented yes, boring dreadfully yes. Since he also rarely tests himself vs. top flight competition the fight are usually one sided. He's a defensive cutie trying to avoid contact at all costs.

Last 6 fights on PPV:

Mosley - 1st 3 rounds were interesting, then a blowout
JMM - 1st round were interesting, then a blowout
Hatton - Cortez never allowed Ricky into the fight but it was a great KO
Oscar - Boring as hell
Baldomir - Boring as hell
Zab - 1st 4 rounds were interesting, then a blowout

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You cannot blame for blowing out Shane and Zab, that is class fighter.

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Come on really? Zab was coming off a loss (in which he was almost KO'd by Baldomir) and Mosley was 8-5 with 4 clear-cut loses and 2 debatable wins vs. Oscar and the 1st Vargas fight. No argument about Floyd's fighting ability at all; just his choice of opposition.

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Also Mayweather is a big star in the black community, you should see my facebook page when he fights, people with no interest in boxing (particularly women) are all talking about his fight. I can only imagine it is even more so over in the States.

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That's probably due to media hype? There are a few black top P4P fighters that the black communities could cheer for instead.

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No, it's because he's good-looking, cocky, incredibly athletic & he wins. I mean you can't tell a community who they should be liking. Shane Mosley had plenty of media hype at one-time, he never won over the black community in the way Floyd or Roy did.

It's like saying all the Mexican fans rooting for Canelo or JCC Jr should root for Humberto Soto or Fernando Montiel instead, they're not going to like who someone else tells them too, they'll go for the person who engages them.

When he fought ODH they created his bad guy persona to help sell the fight. (I think he loved the money so much that he absorbed the persona)

Many people watch his fights because they want to see him lose. That's the entertainment value. When people watch the WWE or what ever it's called, and see a bad guy like the Undertaker. They are entertained by the match up of good guy vs. bad guy and it's a proven seller. Mayweather is no different than the Undertaker. The percentage they make is what they are worth in term of the product being purchased. If you don't like the bad guy because he earns money, that your problem. Floyd is happy with that because it makes you remember him and pay attention to when he fights.

Personally, I don't risk buying his fights because his outside style is boring, but some love the sweet science and skills he puts on display. I can wait until it is replayed for free.

I've never purchased one of his ppv's. I'd go with does he deserve it, yes. Based on media spotlight and he obviously generates buzz and draws "fans" who couldn't name a bantamweight if life depended on it. He's a showman. He's a salesman and his own best hype man. Lately more talk is generated on his gimmicks and personal dealings then by anything he does in the ring. He puts ass's in seats and from many perspectives. Case of networks feeding him from a buffett. Some watch to see him fall....some watch to appreciate his twinkle toes type mastery of the squared circle once a year if that. He deserves it but now is he worth the bucks...not mine, not one fooking nickle.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

I honestly don't get it, i'd much rather watch a couple dozen other fighters that aren't even on PPV, then sit though one of Mayweather Jr's snoozefests, much less have to pay money to see him. Jr. fights like once a year, and gets these huge paydays, what's so special about a Mayweather fight, the action in them all seems mediocre to me.

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Was Tyson worthy? 50 dollar ppv's that last a couple of minutes? I guess it all depends what you like about boxing. Their are people out their who actually think a fight is a failure unless their is a ko. I do not share those views. I like the science and pugilistic purity of the sport as much as I like the brutality. I enjoy the Chacon/Limon type fights but equally enjoy the methodical break down and technical boxing wizardry of a Mayweather.

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I honestly don't get it, i'd much rather watch a couple dozen other fighters that aren't even on PPV, then sit though one of Mayweather Jr's snoozefests, much less have to pay money to see him. Jr. fights like once a year, and gets these huge paydays, what's so special about a Mayweather fight, the action in them all seems mediocre to me.

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Was Tyson worthy? 50 dollar ppv's that last a couple of minutes? I guess it all depends what you like about boxing. Their are people out their who actually think a fight is a failure unless their is a ko. I do not share those views. I like the science and pugilistic purity of the sport as much as I like the brutality. I enjoy the Chacon/Limon type fights but equally enjoy the methodical break down and technical boxing wizardry of a Mayweather.

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A KO is the ultimate in pro prizefighting, especially if it's somewhat unexpected and/or happens between 2 top ranked fighters. Like for example, Martinez's KO of Paul Williams in their 2nd fight, for me, nothing else in boxing beats it. I certainly don't think a fight is a failure without a KO or a brutal beatdown, but this is the hurt business, and frankly I could give a shit less about seeing 10-12 rounds of the "the sweet science", "technical wizardry", or dancing contests, I wanna see a fucking fight.

I can understand the general public thinking Floyd's style is "boring" but if you're a TRUE boxing fan, you would appreciate the defensive genius that Floyd displays everytime he's in the ring. I don't like the guy, persona or not. I think he cherry picks his opponents but I know when there's a one of a kind talent and that's why I tune in whenever he fights. So yes, he is worth the money, IMO, when I pay to see him fight.

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I've never purchased one of his ppv's. I'd go with does he deserve it, yes. Based on media spotlight and he obviously generates buzz and draws "fans" who couldn't name a bantamweight if life depended on it. He's a showman. He's a salesman and his own best hype man. Lately more talk is generated on his gimmicks and personal dealings then by anything he does in the ring. He puts ass's in seats and from many perspectives. Case of networks feeding him from a buffett. Some watch to see him fall....some watch to appreciate his twinkle toes type mastery of the squared circle once a year if that. He deserves it but now is he worth the bucks...not mine, not one fooking nickle.

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LMAO, and not one fookin' nickle of mine either. :cool: I give Mayweather credit for doing a great job marketing himself and there's no doubt that he is skilled/talented and puts butts in the seats, but personally I wouldn't pay 10 cents to see one of his fights. That's not hate, just total lack of any interest.

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Originally Posted by C-Lo

I can understand the general public thinking Floyd's style is "boring" but if you're a TRUE boxing fan, you would appreciate the defensive genius that Floyd displays everytime he's in the ring. I don't like the guy, persona or not. I think he cherry picks his opponents but I know when there's a one of a kind talent and that's why I tune in whenever he fights. So yes, he is worth the money, IMO, when I pay to see him fight.

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Come on C-Lo, if I don't appreciate Mayweather i'm not a true fan of boxing? In my case, it's not about lack of appreciation, it's about disinterest, there's dozens of other fighters i'd much rather watch, and to me, Mayweather's fights are too infrequent for him to be relevant to boxing anymore.

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Originally Posted by C-Lo

I can understand the general public thinking Floyd's style is "boring" but if you're a TRUE boxing fan, you would appreciate the defensive genius that Floyd displays everytime he's in the ring. I don't like the guy, persona or not. I think he cherry picks his opponents but I know when there's a one of a kind talent and that's why I tune in whenever he fights. So yes, he is worth the money, IMO, when I pay to see him fight.

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Come on C-Lo, if I don't appreciate Mayweather i'm not a true fan of boxing? In my case, it's not about lack of appreciation, it's about disinterest, there's dozens of other fighters i'd much rather watch, and to me, Mayweather's fights are too infrequent for him to be relevant to boxing anymore.

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I wasn't targeting you on this. I was making a general statement. Whether or not you believe he deserves the money for his fights, he is a great talent and that can't be denied.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

I honestly don't get it, i'd much rather watch a couple dozen other fighters that aren't even on PPV, then sit though one of Mayweather Jr's snoozefests, much less have to pay money to see him. Jr. fights like once a year, and gets these huge paydays, what's so special about a Mayweather fight, the action in them all seems mediocre to me.

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Floyd Mayweather is a master of his art. He is like a Maradona or Federer of boxing. He barely puts a foot wrong in a bout and though his fights never look like a Hagler-Hearns re-run, he always impresses the boxing purists. Love him or hate him the man is a genius once in the ring.

Watching Mayweather go through the gears in a fight is the most beautiful thing in the sport of Boxing. The end.

Have you watched Floyd Mayweather Jr's fights in lower weightclasses ? he was exciting then and had some good battles with N'dou, Chavez, Augustus, ETC.

some of the responses on here are straight up ridiculous...

SHAME ON FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. FOR USING ALL OF HIS SKILL AND NATURAL GIVEN TALENT TO DOMINATE HIS OPPONENTS, IT'S OBVIOUS HE SHOULDN'T TRAIN AT ALL CAUSE THAT WAY HIS FIGHTS WILL BE MORE COMPETITIVE AND THE FANS WILL GET TWO GUYS JUST PUNCHING EACH OTHER...

Floyd is the best natural pure boxer of his generation, he dominates his opponents, WORLD CLASS opponents because he's that much better than them, he sells fights, he gets you guys to buy his PPV, no different than what Mayorga does with all of his trash talking, the only difference is Floyd makes good on his claims that he's gonna fuck the other guy up, he might not KO them, but what fighter on that list (apart from maybe DLH and Baldomir) did Floyd not whoop badly? against Zab he was on the verge of a stoppage when Judah did the infamous low blow riot, he did knock Hatton the fuck out, against Marquez he could have gotten the KO whenever he wanted after the 3rd and chose to get in a few rounds, and IMO he had Mosley pretty much out of it by the 8th stunning him a few times with those hard accurate straight right hands if he would have pressed more i wouldn't have been shocked to see him get the stoppage, the other two guys well were known for having granite chins at that time and well a certain Golden Boy wasn't weight drained and shot to bits

I absolutely think there are more exciting fighters out there that provide more bang for your buck, and maybe even you would say more value for money...

But Mayweather is really something special.. Along with Whitaker, he is the most skillful boxer I have ever seen... I have got nearly every one of his fights, and it just an absolute pleasure to watch him.... Yes you won't get a slug fest with him, but his skill and dominance against otherwise A class fighters is something very special... And will be remembered as such for a long time..

I think he is worth every dollar, even though you can get a lot more excitement from other fighters/fights... Just the appreciation alone that you can have for Mayweather's boxing class and skill, makes his PPV figures well earned...

Many future boxing fans will be just as appreciative to discover this old Mayweather Jr character and how talented he was....

Boxing has all of those characters where you will get "a fuck!ng fight", but you have the other fighters who are technical geniuses... And I am 100% with C-Lo... And think he would also agree that as a true boxing fan, you can appreciate and get excited over both types of fighters....

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Floyd Mayweather is a master of his art. He is like a Maradona or Federer of boxing. He barely puts a foot wrong in a bout and though his fights never look like a Hagler-Hearns re-run, he always impresses the boxing purists. Love him or hate him the man is a genius once in the ring.

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Word.

Spot on.

He earns his money, no doubt.

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Watching Mayweather go through the gears in a fight is the most beautiful thing in the sport of Boxing. The end.

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No it's not!!! He should stand in the middle of ring & let his opponent punch him, swinging blindly at him... THAT is what CHAMPIONS are made of!!!!

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I can understand the general public thinking Floyd's style is "boring" but if you're a TRUE boxing fan, you would appreciate the defensive genius that Floyd displays everytime he's in the ring. I don't like the guy, persona or not. I think he cherry picks his opponents but I know when there's a one of a kind talent and that's why I tune in whenever he fights. So yes, he is worth the money, IMO, when I pay to see him fight.

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Come on C-Lo, if I don't appreciate Mayweather i'm not a true fan of boxing? In my case, it's not about lack of appreciation, it's about disinterest, there's dozens of other fighters i'd much rather watch, and to me, Mayweather's fights are too infrequent for him to be relevant to boxing anymore.

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I wasn't targeting you on this. I was making a general statement. Whether or not you believe he deserves the money for his fights, he is a great talent and that can't be denied.

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I don't deny that Mayweather has talent or that he deserves the money that he's able to generate on his PPVs, more power to him for marketing himself well. Just saying, to me, his fights aren't worth PPV money, and I simply have no interest in seeing him fight, if that makes me less of a "purist" or a 'true' boxing fan, then so be it. I guess i'm just not enthralled/thrilled with the pitiful few fights Mayweather has blessed boxing with the last 5 years, like some of you seem to be.

i personally think he's extremely fun to watch, he's a great defensive boxer and bring entertainment value to pure boxing fans, when i wanna see some toe to toe action, i watch pacqiou, when i wanna wanna watch the sweet science at its best i tune into mayweather

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I honestly don't get it, i'd much rather watch a couple dozen other fighters that aren't even on PPV, then sit though one of Mayweather Jr's snoozefests, much less have to pay money to see him. Jr. fights like once a year, and gets these huge paydays, what's so special about a Mayweather fight, the action in them all seems mediocre to me.

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Was Tyson worthy? 50 dollar ppv's that last a couple of minutes? I guess it all depends what you like about boxing. Their are people out their who actually think a fight is a failure unless their is a ko. I do not share those views. I like the science and pugilistic purity of the sport as much as I like the brutality. I enjoy the Chacon/Limon type fights but equally enjoy the methodical break down and technical boxing wizardry of a Mayweather.

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A KO is the ultimate in pro prizefighting, especially if it's somewhat unexpected and/or happens between 2 top ranked fighters. Like for example, Martinez's KO of Paul Williams in their 2nd fight, for me, nothing else in boxing beats it. I certainly don't think a fight is a failure without a KO or a brutal beatdown, but this is the hurt business, and frankly I could give a shit less about seeing 10-12 rounds of the "the sweet science", "technical wizardry", or dancing contests, I wanna see a fucking fight.

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Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it. I simply totally disagree. Boxing is not even boxing when you degrade the sweet science aspects of it. Might as well be a bar fight.

A KO is the ultimate in pro prizefighting, especially if it's somewhat unexpected and/or happens between 2 top ranked fighters. Like for example, Martinez's KO of Paul Williams in their 2nd fight, for me, nothing else in boxing beats it. I certainly don't think a fight is a failure without a KO or a brutal beatdown, but this is the hurt business, and frankly I could give a shit less about seeing 10-12 rounds of the "the sweet science", "technical wizardry", or dancing contests, I wanna see a fucking fight.

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Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it. I simply totally disagree. Boxing is not even boxing when you degrade the sweet science aspects of it. Might as well be a bar fight.
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I tried to google it, but couldn't find out where the term "the sweet science" originated, I can remember Archie Moore adopting the phrase and using it often, but i'm pretty sure he wasn't the originator. I believe the phrase can have a pretty wide definition, but the way Moore used to fight defined the sweet science best. I've watched dozens of Moore's fights back in the day and i'm sad to say that most, with a few exceptions, were terminally boring.

I like action packed fights, and I have no interest in watching boring 10-12 round, ass-grabs, chess matches or dance marathons. A good example of what i'm talking about is the Oscar - Mayweather fight, I pity anyone who payed $55 to see that shit on PPV, and thought they got their money's worth.

Anyway, I'm not trying to be argumentative, just stating my personal preferences.

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Have you watched Floyd Mayweather Jr's fights in lower weightclasses ? he was exciting then and had some good battles with N'dou, Chavez, Augustus, ETC.

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For some reason I didn't watch many of Mayweather's earlier fights, I can't really say why and not to beat a dead horse, but it's safe to say that i've just never had much interest in seeing him fight.

I read once the Marciano and Louis were brought in to help with the promo for some heavyweight fight or the other, some time ago, obviously, but the fighters were making a bunch of money. (Keep in mind that, combined, Louis and Rocky made less than $5million)
As they were leaving in the limo, Marciano jumped out and started jogging alongside the car.
Louis yelled "Rocky, what the hell are you doing?"
Marciano replied "I'm training Joe. Didn't you here how much they're getting paid?"
Joe Louis told the driver "Slow down and let me out; I want to run with Rocky!"
A fighter isn't an accountant or a lawyer: they have careers that last 40 years or more, lots of time to make money, live well, and put some away. A fighter gets ten years if he's lucky.
I don't think Mayweather, or anybody, is worth $40 million for a fight, but God bless him for getting it. Sure as can be he's got 100 people around him trying to carve a chunk out him pocket.

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A KO is the ultimate in pro prizefighting, especially if it's somewhat unexpected and/or happens between 2 top ranked fighters. Like for example, Martinez's KO of Paul Williams in their 2nd fight, for me, nothing else in boxing beats it. I certainly don't think a fight is a failure without a KO or a brutal beatdown, but this is the hurt business, and frankly I could give a shit less about seeing 10-12 rounds of the "the sweet science", "technical wizardry", or dancing contests, I wanna see a fucking fight.

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Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it. I simply totally disagree. Boxing is not even boxing when you degrade the sweet science aspects of it. Might as well be a bar fight.
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I tried to google it, but couldn't find out where the term "the sweet science" originated, I can remember Archie Moore adopting the phrase and using it often, but i'm pretty sure he wasn't the originator. I believe the phrase can have a pretty wide definition, but the way Moore used to fight defined the sweet science best. I've watched dozens of Moore's fights back in the day and i'm sad to say that most, with a few exceptions, were terminally boring.

I like action packed fights, and I have no interest in watching boring 10-12 round, ass-grabs, chess matches or dance marathons. A good example of what i'm talking about is the Oscar - Mayweather fight, I pity anyone who payed $55 to see that shit on PPV, and thought they got their money's worth.

Anyway, I'm not trying to be argumentative, just stating my personal preferences.

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I only used it cause you did but when its really in play I will use it. I'm quite sure the term originated before Moore and most likely around the time of Langford and Benny Leonard. Langford has more ko's then Foreman and Tyson combined but was also one of the first to employ the shoulder roll or "Philly shell" like Floyd uses today. Watching Sweet Pea make people look stupid by applying God given gifts to boxing fundamentals like footwork, feints, direction, is the pearl for me although as I said I also love a good punch up. I grew up playing hockey lol. Leonard /Hearns 1 was one of the best fights I have ever seen and it was a boxing match. I do not think you are trying to be argumentative in the least. Our definitions of boring simply differ.

I've been a boxing fan forever and for years and years I would watch, record and study every fight, from 4 rounders to main events, because I just love boxing. I can enjoy just about everything that goes on in a ring; one of my favorite fights is Del Flanagan vs Sandy Saddler, for tactical reasons. I don't mind seeing an early ko if somebody does something intelligent to make it happen.
I don't follow recent fights so much because of years of paying to watch supposed top level fighters and finding out that they can't fight much. Watching two muscle bound guys stand toe to toe and swing haymakers bores the hell out of me. That's just 'fighting' and, while 'boxing' sometimes becomes fighting, they are not the same thing.
Give me two guys that know how to fight, that hit and don't get hit, trying to outsmart one another, really working, that's boxing.
One of these days, instead of going on'line to watch Olivares and Griffith and boring old Archie Moore (more kos than anybody else), I'll get around to watching mayweather.

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I've been a boxing fan forever and for years and years I would watch, record and study every fight, from 4 rounders to main events, because I just love boxing. I can enjoy just about everything that goes on in a ring; one of my favorite fights is Del Flanagan vs Sandy Saddler, for tactical reasons. I don't mind seeing an early ko if somebody does something intelligent to make it happen.
I don't follow recent fights so much because of years of paying to watch supposed top level fighters and finding out that they can't fight much. Watching two muscle bound guys stand toe to toe and swing haymakers bores the hell out of me. That's just 'fighting' and, while 'boxing' sometimes becomes fighting, they are not the same thing.
Give me two guys that know how to fight, that hit and don't get hit, trying to outsmart one another, really working, that's boxing.
One of these days, instead of going on'line to watch Olivares and Griffith and boring old Archie Moore (more kos than anybody else), I'll get around to watching mayweather.

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You definitely sound like a 'true' boxing fan Grey, i've been watching boxing forever myself, but i'm not nearly as dedicated as you seem to be.
In re: PPVs, very few fights these days are worth paying for, it's not the money so much as it is the principal of the thing.

As for boring old Archie Moore, in fairness to the old mongoose, I only caught the tail end of his career.