Will Haye try and box Klitschko rather thasn go for the KO???

EVERY body seems to thin k Haye will be going all out for a KO in this fight.

Does anybody else think that he might supprise us all and try and box his way to victory only going for the stoppage if it comes rather than trying to make it happen.

Your thoughts?

Baed on the way he fought Valuev (throwing 13 punches a round) and Audley (waltzing with him) I see no resaon to believe Haye will do anything but try to stay away.

^^ Yep. I really doubt Haye will surprise anybody in this fight, he will probably try and play keep away getting stopped eventually.

If Haye tries to run/box like he did against Valuev then he lasts 1 round.
If he plants his feet and tries controlled attacks he can win inside 3. But more likely he goes bye bye inside 3.

He has to trow big shots to give Wlad something to think about , if not Wlad will tear him a new "A" .

Haye will box him without a doubt, the one thing he has over him is speed, so he'll be mad not to use it.

If he can make it a brawl early on the fight, he does have a chance. Outboxing Wlad for 12 rounds sounds too optimistic.

It's pretty common to test the heart of a guy that's been ko'd early. There's the hope there that you can induce panic and get the guy to crumble if you rock him. That being said, you don't want to walk into anything and you know Vlad will be sharp with a jab, line Haye up and test the chin with a 1,2 or a jab then sweeping hook (same hand). Smartest game plan for Haye will be to work on his movement and try to stay away early and land a counter, then pounce (go for the ko), clinch if he can't get it and wait for the ref. Then rinse and repeat. He can brawl but he's gotta be smart about it.
I wouldn't be surprise to see Haye try to slip in an out and pick at the body to draw the defensive attention downstairs and Klitchsko's gloves away from his face.

I don't see haye as a brawled he's a japper, mover and sometimes counterer.

I expect the first couple rounds to be fairly quiet.

Haye has to hurt Wlad quite early though otherwise he will be steam rollered.

He could try and box, he could try and blast him out. I think we're all missing something though.




Why has Lyle not posted in this thread yet?

The problem with facing Wladimir is that he is fast enough you will not be able to avoid his punches by moving away, and he is punching with that jab behind you so its hard to get out of his range, but also he has become good enough to defensively that it's difficult to land a big punch from the outside. Yet on the inside he clinches right away. I think Haye has that dynamic Pacquiao type power and speed, but Wladimir has amazingly athletic talents in his own right plus a big advantage in size and technique. After watching Eddie Chambers who is roughly as fast as Haye but much better defensively get shut down, I have a hard time seeing Haye getting off his big punches.

But like I said, he's a special fighter with incredible athleticism and power. It's hard to equate how that plays out, but based on his fights with Harrison and Valuev, probably not well.

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He could try and box, he could try and blast him out. I think we're all missing something though.




Why has Lyle not posted in this thread yet?

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I think everyone knows my opinion on the fight....I just enjoy people racking their brains trying to figure out how Wlad can be beaten ;D

I reckon it'll be a testy first round by the end of it. Wlad may try to land an early power punch to dictate the flow of the fight, his opponent will probably end up trying to "scare" Wlad like Eddie Chambers did figuring Wlad's never had to deal with a physical brawl....he'll figure wrong as Wlad uses his size, athletic ability, and strength to do what he always does, control pace and distance. Wlad by KO in 6...I doubt a soon to be retiree takes too much punishment before laying down for the 10 count or throwing in the towel.

They will both go out there and box. But when the first big punch lands from Haye, Wlad will shit himself. Haye KO round 4

For some reason, I just have a gut feeling that this fight will be delayed or call off. Just call it a hunch. I won't believe they are fighting until both of them are receiving instructions from the ref inside that ring.

He will try to box, he will try and get past the jab to get on the inside and throw a quick combo to body then head before Wlad clinches then get out on the outside again looking for counters and a way to slip the jabs again.

1st big punch that lands from either fighter and thats then end of the fight imo.

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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

It's pretty common to test the heart of a guy that's been ko'd early. There's the hope there that you can induce panic and get the guy to crumble if you rock him. That being said, you don't want to walk into anything and you know Vlad will be sharp with a jab, line Haye up and test the chin with a 1,2 or a jab then sweeping hook (same hand). Smartest game plan for Haye will be to work on his movement and try to stay away early and land a counter, then pounce (go for the ko), clinch if he can't get it and wait for the ref. Then rinse and repeat. He can brawl but he's gotta be smart about it.
I wouldn't be surprise to see Haye try to slip in an out and pick at the body to draw the defensive attention downstairs and Klitchsko's gloves away from his face.

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This is how i would see him going about it. Use his superiour speed and footwork to get in and out, and attack the body early to draw Wlad to drop his hands then come in with big uppercuts. No doubt use abit of holding once landed then out again. Easier said than done mind, but thats the plan I see him using.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

I don't see haye as a brawled he's a japper, mover and sometimes counterer.

I expect the first couple rounds to be fairly quiet.

Haye has to hurt Wlad quite early though otherwise he will be steam rollered.

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I think you meant to say yapper. He yaps all day when he wants a fight then he gets it and shuts up yapping. To answer the question, I think he may try to come out and do kung fu or ju jitsu, then if that doesnt work he may try boxing.

I was wondering that myself with Booth and his strategy to win. I think Haye will box and stay a safe distance like he did with Valuev and Audley. Then come in short burst of attacking punches inside and then out again hoping to connect Wlad off guard and finish him if he sees an opening. He will try and negate Wlad's jab, which is a Booth tactic.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

He could try and box, he could try and blast him out. I think we're all missing something though.




Why has Lyle not posted in this thread yet?

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I think everyone knows my opinion on the fight....I just enjoy people racking their brains trying to figure out how Wlad can be beaten ;D

I reckon it'll be a testy first round by the end of it. Wlad may try to land an early power punch to dictate the flow of the fight, his opponent will probably end up trying to "scare" Wlad like Eddie Chambers did figuring Wlad's never had to deal with a physical brawl....he'll figure wrong as Wlad uses his size, athletic ability, and strength to do what he always does, control pace and distance. Wlad by KO in 6...I doubt a soon to be retiree takes too much punishment before laying down for the 10 count or throwing in the towel.

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:lol: Eddie Chambers :lol:

Well Eddie Chambers tried to body slam Wlad early in their fight....I think that might be part of the strategy of the WBA title holder just to try and psychologically shake Wlad. I also don't think its out of the question that we may see a few rabbit punches thrown by the WBA title holder.

If he sits outside trying to negate the jab he's going to get flattened because Wlad doesn't just jab he hooks off the jab....you've got to be more wary of that powerful hook than the jab.

David throws quite a lot of rabbit punches. Wlad had issues with Peter throwing rabbit punches in their first fight so I imagine Wlad's chosen ref will be quick (and just) to penalise David for it.

Haye can try and box, go for the KO, or get tricky, but it's not going to make any difference, Manny Steward is going to have Wlad ready for any of the bullshit Haye tries. I don't think this fight goes more then 8 rounds, Wlad is going to make a statement and knock this clown into next week.

Haye can't stay on the outside: Wlad has a tremedous range and a lethal jab. That worked with the Giant and Fraudley because they are as slow as a drifting iceberg and not too sound technically. Not Wlad.
What I think is that Booth will try to get Haye to step inside, burst up in head/body combos and then step out, wait for Wlad to come toward him and while he does so, stepping in (while Wlad is on movement it should give him a tiny window where he won't perfectly be on balance to land good power shots or good jabs) doing the same and out till a good punch lands and brings the Ukrenian giant's down.

At least, that's what I could see as a potentially good tactics in the circumstances. I don't think Haye has a chance in hell though. Ok, perhaps a tiny one, it's the HWD after all.

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Well Eddie Chambers tried to body slam Wlad early in their fight....I think that might be part of the strategy of the WBA title holder just to try and psychologically shake Wlad. I also don't think its out of the question that we may see a few rabbit punches thrown by the WBA title holder.

If he sits outside trying to negate the jab he's going to get flattened because Wlad doesn't just jab he hooks off the jab....you've got to be more wary of that powerful hook than the jab.

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I'm laughing cuz chambers shoulda stuck with the wrestling antics cuz his boxing did fuck all that night.

I agree with most of what you've said apart from the rabbit punches, which is rediculous seeing as wlad is so much taller. If wlad is going to bend over that far and try to suck hayes' dick he deserves to get rabbit punched.

He can't beat wlad from the outside. That's obvious. It's going to bein and out tactics. Haye is either going to have to be a mile away from wlad or sat on his chest. If he falls into medium range he'll get eaten.

anyone know if roach is still assisting with Haye?

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For some reason, I just have a gut feeling that this fight will be delayed or call off. Just call it a hunch. I won't believe they are fighting until both of them are receiving instructions from the ref inside that ring.

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:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:Please dont say that or even think it!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

anyone know if roach is still assisting with Haye?

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I'm don't think so but it won't matter.

This is the best we can hope for

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWRW_gPKPSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAnJyVrRI18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7L2io5-Fjs

I would try either of these guys.I think i would end it early

Wladimir's secret sparring is revealed!! it involved alot of Jabbing and clinching .. no surprise there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYyRGdAUNcQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYyRGdAUNcQ

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