Would Calzaghe ever come out of retirement?
With the 168 weight class looking so strong and with their being so many potential strong match ups, would Calzaghe ever be tempted to come back? If Froch keeps on winning and beats ward and could avenge his loss Kessler, imagine how massive a froch-Calzaghe match up would be! If either froch, Bute, Kessler or ward proves themselves as the best would Calzaghe coming back and fighting the proven best at 168 ever happen? I know Calzaghe has had personal problems but could we ever see him come back to make such a massive potential showdown?
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Would love to see him come back and get humbled. ;D
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Calzaghe couldn't make 168 at the end of his career, so I doubt he comes back at that weight. He could feasibly make 175, but he'd need some warm-ups. I think there would be a lot of money on the table should Froch win the Super Six, but Ward brings money in Oakland & there's decent fights for him in Bute & the winner of Dawson/Hopkins. I don't see Calzaghe coming back, he's rejected over $10m apparently to come back & fight B-Hop, so it would have to be real big.
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I don't think he does. It's been about 2 1/2 years since his last fight, and he's close to 40 years old. But as with any boxer i guess you never really know.
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Money, fame, good looking chick and all the blow he can snort?
What does he need to get hit in the head for?
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I always said that Joe would come back because he is such a boxing cliche, I figured he figured it was the done thing. Now Im not so sure.
If Froch manages to squeek past Ward I'll change my mind.
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Nope. Unless he's broke!!!
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Because in my opinion he still has more to prove. If froch can beat ward and fight Kessler again and how much better is Calzaghes resume than frochs potentiall one? I think froch has more big name wins on his record if he can beat ward and Kessler. I read before froch is maybe looking for a fight with b hop and if he can beat him I think Calzaghe should fight froch. Would definatley be one of the biggest uk show downs of all time.
careful there buddy, you might hurt yourself from stretching too far ;D
IMO Froch loses to Ward, and even worse so to B-Hop especially at light heavy, the jab gives Froch problems (as seen against Taylor, Dirrell, and Johnson), and he's always open to right hands and that's usually B-Hop's bread and butter, double jab over hand right or slip your shot and a lead right hand, IMO Froch takes on Kessler or Bute after the tourney
but i do agree with you that he's up there in resume with Calzaghe already, but hey Calzaghe's record is full of big names past their prime while Froch has guys that were mostly still competitive
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I always said that Joe would come back because he is such a boxing cliche, I figured he figured it was the done thing. Now Im not so sure.
If Froch manages to squeek past Ward I'll change my mind.
I think he's too old to come back. And after years out his first fight back wouldn't be someone as good as froch.
If froch does win the super six and starts to look like king of the castle then that really will niggle joe.
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No, he won't come back and I don't think Froch's success bothers him in the slightest. He thinks he got out at the top and has that 0, that's all that matters to him. He wouldn't risk it.
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No, he won't come back and I don't think Froch's success bothers him in the slightest. He thinks he got out at the top and has that 0, that's all that matters to him. He wouldn't risk it.
exactly, IMO Calzaghe never struck me as the type of fighter who was fighting for greatness
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No, he won't come back and I don't think Froch's success bothers him in the slightest. He thinks he got out at the top and has that 0, that's all that matters to him. He wouldn't risk it.
exactly, IMO Calzaghe never struck me as the type of fighter who was fighting for greatness
He beat a relatively prime Hopkins better than anyone else has done, beat up the American critics darling Lacy quite easily, beat a prime undefeated Euro titlist in Kessler handily and also in his youth boxed the pants off the ancient (31 ancient...hahaha) Eubank. His style was extraordinary and he beat a number of other very decent opponents. In his own way he was great, nobody was ever able to work him out.
He had a great career and is one of boxings best ever fighters, at least IMO.
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No, he won't come back and I don't think Froch's success bothers him in the slightest. He thinks he got out at the top and has that 0, that's all that matters to him. He wouldn't risk it.
exactly, IMO Calzaghe never struck me as the type of fighter who was fighting for greatness
He beat a relatively prime Hopkins better than anyone else has done, beat up the American critics darling Lacy quite easily, beat a prime undefeated Euro titlist in Kessler handily and also in his youth boxed the pants off the ancient (31 ancient...hahaha) Eubank. His style was extraordinary and he beat a number of other very decent opponents. In his own way he was great, nobody was ever able to work him out.
He had a great career and is one of boxings best ever fighters, at least IMO.
Gotta agree with what ya saying here Miles ;)
I cannot see him making a comeback regardless what happens in the SMW or LHW division, as it's been mentioned, he's done everything that he needs to do in the sport, he has his health, his wealth and plenty of biff !
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He beat a relatively prime Hopkins better than anyone else has done, beat up the American critics darling Lacy quite easily, beat a prime undefeated Euro titlist in Kessler handily and also in his youth boxed the pants off the ancient (31 ancient...hahaha) Eubank. His style was extraordinary and he beat a number of other very decent opponents. In his own way he was great, nobody was ever able to work him out.
He had a great career and is one of boxings best ever fighters, at least IMO.
The Hopkins fight was VERY close. It could've gone against Joe to be honest.
As for Lacy, yeah he was the American darling, but really who had he beaten?
Kessler was a great win, can't deny that.
If Froch wins the Super Six (even if he doesn't) and then goes on to win titles at light heavy, which I am sure he will) he will undoubtedly have rustled up a better CV than Joe. Don't get me wrong, I am a Joe Calzaghe fan but I can acknowledge he was fed a lot of shit for much of the ten year reign he has and, with regards to that, didn't unify for years either.
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No, he won't come back and I don't think Froch's success bothers him in the slightest. He thinks he got out at the top and has that 0, that's all that matters to him. He wouldn't risk it.
exactly, IMO Calzaghe never struck me as the type of fighter who was fighting for greatness
He beat a relatively prime Hopkins better than anyone else has done, beat up the American critics darling Lacy quite easily, beat a prime undefeated Euro titlist in Kessler handily and also in his youth boxed the pants off the ancient (31 ancient...hahaha) Eubank. His style was extraordinary and he beat a number of other very decent opponents. In his own way he was great, nobody was ever able to work him out.
He had a great career and is one of boxings best ever fighters, at least IMO.
Good post Miles.
These Calzaghe haters will never get over it.
The Hopkins win is rubbished even though Hopkins can't stop franking the form. Froch gets more credit for LOSING to Kessler than Calzaghe does for beating him. Even Hopkins, one of the biggest whingers in history, recently admitted Calzaghe had unique boxing ability. A masterful style.
We all know the real truth - if Calzaghe was American he would have replaced SRR as P4P all-time. Fact.
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I would have liked Calzaghe had he not been such an incomplete puncher. I understand he has brittle hands but I dont think he ever learned how to punch properly such as turning the punches over and punching all the way through the target. His bogus stoppage of Manfredo was one of the currupt reffing ever. I just never been too high on the guy.
He should stay retired and enjoy life. Do lines of pure Colombian shit..
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I don't think calzaghe would return as a result of getting the urge to fight again and missing the competitiveness i believe the only way we would see him fighting would be if he was completely skint
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No, he won't come back and I don't think Froch's success bothers him in the slightest. He thinks he got out at the top and has that 0, that's all that matters to him. He wouldn't risk it.
exactly, IMO Calzaghe never struck me as the type of fighter who was fighting for greatness
He beat a relatively prime Hopkins better than anyone else has done, beat up the American critics darling Lacy quite easily, beat a prime undefeated Euro titlist in Kessler handily and also in his youth boxed the pants off the ancient (31 ancient...hahaha) Eubank. His style was extraordinary and he beat a number of other very decent opponents. In his own way he was great, nobody was ever able to work him out.
He had a great career and is one of boxings best ever fighters, at least IMO.
how did he beat him better than anyone else if there is still a huge controversy whether he really won the fight? in terms of record, Froch's record is about even with Joe's
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I cannot see Joe coming out of retirement even if it was for a crazy amount of money and a high profile fight like Froch or Cleverly.
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miles
No, he won't come back and I don't think Froch's success bothers him in the slightest. He thinks he got out at the top and has that 0, that's all that matters to him. He wouldn't risk it.
exactly, IMO Calzaghe never struck me as the type of fighter who was fighting for greatness
He beat a relatively prime Hopkins better than anyone else has done, beat up the American critics darling Lacy quite easily, beat a prime undefeated Euro titlist in Kessler handily and also in his youth boxed the pants off the ancient (31 ancient...hahaha) Eubank. His style was extraordinary and he beat a number of other very decent opponents. In his own way he was great, nobody was ever able to work him out.
He had a great career and is one of boxings best ever fighters, at least IMO.
how did he beat him better than anyone else if there is still a huge controversy whether he really won the fight? in terms of record, Froch's record is about even with Joe's
Agree with this. I scored the Hopkins/Calzaghe fight for Hopkins by a point. I also don't follow how Hopkins was "relatively prime" there. Hopkins was at his prime against Trinidad. Anything post-Taylor is definitely a different story -- though he's obviously still very good.
That being said, a prime Calzaghe definitely beats today's Froch, for sure. And I do respect Calzaghe -- the dominating victory over Kessler did that for me. But he's not (and never was) on quite the level of a truly prime Hopkins or Roy Jones Jr. I'm not sure he was even on the level of a prime 168 James Toney.
