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I am going to start having protein shakes every morning. I am currently doing lots of weights and CV to both cut weight and tone up/ build some muscle. I'm not sure which protein to go for. This is the one I am thinking of buying...
Maximuscle Cyclone 1.2Kg Strawberry - Tesco.Direct
Any advice greatly received :cool:
I've been using this one in chocolate.
Gold Standard 100% Whey | onacademy.co.uk
Tastes delicious. Tried strawberry and bananna in the past too but neither taste as nice imo.
Best thing about chocolate is it mixes really well with porridge.
Never tried any other brand but I imagine all the major brands are good, just shop for the best price and then stick to what you like.
I'm a creature of habit so it's alway this one for me.
if it's the one I took years ago it tastes like cack.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
What is the reason you are taking the shake? Is it just for the protein in which case maximuscles regular protein will be fine or are you taking it as a high protein MRP to fill you up?
Have a steak for breakfast :cool:
Myprotein.co.uk
Much cheaper than maxi muscle. Cyclone is a good all in one but if you're still looking to drop a lot of weight I'd go with some form of diet whey (if you still have excess fat then it's pointless adding carbs into the mix. If your body needs calories to repair your muscles... Let it use some of your fat! ;))
I'm training a lad, we alternate between strength training and interval type cv and circuits. In 6 weeks he's gained 6kg of muscle and dropped 7kg of fat. aside from cleaning up his diet a touch, all he took was sci mx diet whey after our morning sessions.
If you want to stick with cyclone then I'd go with hurricane xs from myprotein instead. You pay less and get more!... Just don't mix it with 300ml of water like they say. I find 200 much nicer.
As far as protein goes, go for plain chocolate if you get it flavoured. They usually just use fat reduced cocoa powder, whilst flavours like strawberry and especially banana have heaps of flavourings and colourings in (but no actual strawverry or banana!!) no need to have them as some of them are potential carcogens.
Omni MX by scimx is good to but a bit pricier than hurricane. Cyclone is waaaaaay over priced though, especially from somewhere like tescos.
Impact Diet Whey | Myprotein.com
There you go. Quality whey protein with some good extra ingredients too.
Green Tea is good for upping your metabolism and L carnitine is an amino acid that helps your body utilise fat during activity.
Thanks mate - much appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Deffo need low carb one, coz got 2 stone of fat still to shift.
What do you think about these ones - these were given to me by the guy who owns my gym
http://www.bodybuilding-supplements....?productId=588
http://www.discount-supplements.co.u...roduct_details
http://www.discount-supplements.co.u...ey-protein-5kg
IGF is a pretty good protein. Can be quite dear but its a very high quality whey.
Adam is it ok take two shakes per day?
Ive been taking one a day but I'd like to build a bit more muscle so maybe increase to 2? I don't want to increase fat though..
I have my shakes with skimmed milk.
Should be more than fine if you're training, depends how much protein you're getting from the rest of your diet but I really can't see 2 shakes being too many! ;)
I already eat a pretty good diet, but I find with the ammount of exercise I end up doing from instructing classes (spin/Pump FX) etc on top of my own considerable ammount of training that I need to suppliment, else I'd get ill/injured/waste away.
I was never big into suppliments but my current work load leaves me little choice. On top of my usual food at the moment I'll end up having 2 shakes everyday and usually 2 protein flap jacks inbetween meals just to try and keep the protein and calories in.
Sometimes more if it's been a rough week and I'm feeling it (I eat more off how I feel/what I'm working on, I eat a base ammount and adjust with activity)
This is on top of 4 large meals. So yeah, I think you're good! ;)
Cheers Adam I'll follow your advice and take a chance then.Just don't want my 134lb bodyweight to spiral out of control and before I know I'm 138 and having to diet again.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Bilbo I'm gonna assume you're being sarcastic... I lose that much taking a crap! :p
Was using 100% Whey twice daily for 4 months and have switched to Amplified Wheybolic extreme 60now once daily for workout, build. Good protein count but lower calories. Water weight remains a biatch!
That made me laugh ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BilboCheers Adam I'll follow your advice and take a chance then.Just don't want my 134lb bodyweight to spiral out of control and before I know I'm 138 and having to diet again.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
DONT buy any protein with the first ingredient is whey concentrate, make sure the first ingredient whey isolate
Thanks
I'm having pizza :lickish:
Wholemeal, organically made pizza dough, topped with vegetables and cottage cheese I'm assuming? ;)
errr yeah of course:cool:
Bilbs (or anyone) how do you make your Protein porridge, i.e how much porridge/milk/water. I want to have it cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
This has been a great thread to read as i too have been looking to start protein shakes as i need to shift some luggage too....I have never really understood the protein shakes and all the different kinds but am i right in thinking that to shift body fat and reduce carbs you need to use 100% whey protein shake?
Or am i off the mark here?
Reading over all the comments. I would add one thing....read the labels very carefully. Some Protein mixes are high in sugar, carbs, and calories (You said you did not want to put on weight). See if the label says "Isolate protein"...some claim this is more quickly absorbed and better--I can not say if this is true or not. Also keep in mind, that protein taken like this is hard for the body to digest in some people. You may want to take a little before workout and a little afterward. Avoid taking at night before bedtime...it will add to weight gain. Our body will only absorb so much. Consider eating foods naturally high in protein also.
Nice one cheersQuote:
Originally Posted by Gray Lion
Hi Big H, well my advice for protein powder is very simple...if you want to add protein shakes to your diet make sure you buy a high quality ISOLATE WHEY PROTEIN...Isolate protein powder gets absorbed better than concentrate protein powder... depending on what your trying to achieve(loose weight OR gain weight) protein powders are different...but if your trying to loose some weight and put on some lean muscle I would choose a protein protein powder that has 35g protein in each scoop with low carb(maybe 1gram of carb in the scoop)... I actually add a couple more things to my protein shake...I add L Glutamine, and a spoon of Flax seed oil, and I also take an Arginine suppliment. You'll know if you have bought a CHEAP quality protein powder because the scoop size will be larger.... that is because cheaper,inferior protein powder have alot of "fillers"...and you don't need that crap in your body. Also mix your protein powder with water for best absorption, but at night time before you go to sleep mix your protein powder with skim milk to slow down the absorption so your body is fed for the 7 hours you sleep. Cruiser
I got to ask why anyone would take a protein shake and add glutimine?...the protein already has glutimine in it. Furthermore your body naturally produces glutimine from what you eat, and will not store any excess...so out it comes with the waste. The other two supplements flaxseed oil and such leave me wondering what their value would be. But I really caution you on taking a protein right before bedtime...a blueprint for fat storage. Take the isolatee protein 30 minutes before work out and thirty minutes afterward. It's like I tell my guys...you go into these health food stores and GNC centers, and if you take what they said you needed, you would'nt have time to eat. Isolate Protein and Creatine are about the only two supplements I would even consider. 90% of this Nitro/oxide/black atomic, untra mega, labeled stuff is just crap...caffeine and sugar loaded.....made for pennies and sold for big bucks and does nothing.
To Gray Lion, first off, all protein powder have L Glutimine in them(your right), but ask any nutritionist, there isn't enough of it added to the protein powder...if they did add the propper amount the cost on every protein powder would be TOO much!!!very expensive ingredient!!! I hope that clears it up for you!!! and yes your body produces Glutamine naturally but it doesn't produce enough if you work out 5 days a week like me!!! maybe GrayLion with your light workouts your muscle don't benifit from extra glutamine it your diet...it helps everyone else's muscles against fatigue and cramping and helps with prevent muscle tissue breakdown and increases muscle recovery time which for most boxers and athletes is IMPORTANT GrayLion!!! And to educate you on the other two supplement I mention... Flax seed oil helps your joints!!! also it gives your whole skin a nice warm glow... now GrayLion, I punch the heavy bag to try to devolpe strong knockout power, but in doing so over the years my shoulder are very sore now and I benifit from adding a spoon of flaxseed oil to my protein shake and when I'm at the beach I like my skin looking nice and shiney with a warm glow look!!!...and the other suppliment I mention was Arginine... you see, my diet consist of mostly chicken and rice and veggies, I lack beef(steak) in my diet...beef (steak) have arginine in it, so I take a suppliment instead...if your not aware arginine is a proven ingredient to build muscle, it's part of the branch chain animo acid the builds muscle and arginine is also and ingredient in every protein powder...its very safe to take... and as for as your advice you mention...yeah take the glutamine before and after your workout (definetly)take it with water for better absorption... but SKIP the creatine unless you want to have a bloated feeling and want a bubble looking physique.... also taking a protein shake before bedtime is perfect, low carb, high quality protein powder, and if you buy the timed released protein powder you can have your body fed all night long while you sleep... and your body is healing and recovering when your sleeping...it's important for your body to have the food for the recovery. I hope my info helps you :-) Cruiser
Cruiser...first off, I'm sorry you took my comments personal...I thought we were having a discussion. I hope you have learned the fundamental rule in the ring about keeping your temper.
As to my "lame workouts"...I don't recall you being at the ATC fitness gyms on the three days I work out there, and then the three days I work out as a Boxing coach and fitness instructor. I am pushing 69 and still get in the ring for body shots and sparring. I weigh 223, have all my hair, don't need glasses, and still remember where I parked my car...so I must have done something right in life. I had the advantage of knowing bare knuckle fighters and boxers back from the days when there was no supplements..just heavy meals and heavy workouts. I can bring in a doctor or neutrition expert to refute anyone who claims what you state and to tell you that most of the supplements out there have no foundation in true scientific studies...your body DOES produce what you need, if you follow a balanced diet plan. You state to take it before bed time.....I would love to meet the "expert' who advocates this.
Now if your talking steroids...that's a whole new world...and one I have avoided and encourage others not to take.
If your plan works for you fine...you are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine. I just get a little anoyed at people who make personal degogatory remarks toward me and have not ever met me, or been in the ring with me.
With regards.....Gray Lion
Hi Gray Lion, I'm not taking anything you said personally, but I speak the truth about my advice...so you don't have to take my advice if you don't want to...do what works for you guy... It so awesome to here someone of the age 69 is still doing active sparring in the ring(I tip my hat to you Gray Lion)... I'm the only one in any local fitness center in my city who has NEVER taken anything to grow my muscles...furthermore I'm always boxing against other boxers who do take steroids and growth hormones and creatine and I'm completely natural...I will NEVER promote steroids!!! I'm a chubby boxer, nothing of elite level, and I'm getting close to 40 years old myself(out of my prime for boxing)... boxing is just something I have done to stay fit over the years... In two years I will be entering the master competition for natural bodybuilders (but I will be the only guy that has never done steroids in that competition) Also 50 years ago, good balanced meals were awesome... and they still are... I would always recommend real food over any protein powder, but in the year of 2012 with all our "Fast Paced" lives its sometimes difficult to cook a healthy meal because of our "rushed" lives. And I read what you wrote about not liking people passing judgement on you when they have never met you, or never been in the ring with you... I understand your view... Anytime you want to see how I look like send me a private email and I'll direct you to a bodybuilding website and you can view my photos and read my profile aswell. Cruiser P.S I will always fuel my body with exactly what it needs to recover at bedtime so I'm ready and able to workout the next morning...but you do what works for you guy :-)
Cruiser. Thanks for your letter and the spirit in which it was written. I agree with what you say. In fact, we have some very long discussions in the gym on supplements. We all do agree on more Protein, but beyond that, it's just like asking someone what kind of car they should buy.....you get a lot of different answers and a lot of arguments...but in the end we are all members of the boxing fraternity and try to look out for one another. When Creatine is used, it is a 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off program. We have had some success with it on the layman theory that it makes the muscle cells absorb faster. But everyone is different and what works for one, does not necessarily work for another. I am also amazed that some people can load up on the worst food and come out looking great and stronger. Hardest fighter I ever knew drank whiskey like water and maintained a strong body because he was a track layer and rail repair guy for the railroad. Good luck with you training and in the ring. I'm sorry to see younger fighters going off into MMA and ignoring the training they can receive in boxing.
With kindest regards,
Gray Lion
Hi Gray Lion, you seem like a cool guy... I'm sure there is alot I can learn from you... I like reading everyones threads on the site... and I'm sorry if my words didn't come out right... I agree with alot you have written... Cheers Cruiser :-)