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David Haye's broken toe excuse criticized - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
Bruno believes Haye should have pulled out of the fight if his toe was indeed broken.
"You can’t punch straight, you can’t balance yourself, you can’t even move. A broken toe’s a serious thing,” the British fighter told BBC.
What a difference one little toe can cause. (not so little after it was broke)
SAME CAN BE SAID FOR A COCK. Its little but if its broke, YOU'RE FUCKED.
Give me a break. Guys have fought with broken hands. Danny Williams dislocated his shoulder in a fight once and managed to knock the other guy out with one good arm and Haye is complaining about a broken little toe?
Perhaps he'll hype up this injury and say everyone is scared to admit how painful it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by DopeyKev
I just wonder this....did he break his toe on purpose? Did Setanta execs come by and break it? Or was he just trying to give Wlad an advantage?
How do we know he didnt break it by constantly going down on his knees to suck Wlad off?
Haye is now deeply embarrassed with everything he has said for the past few years and his shitty scared performance. Hes just realised hes not as good as Sanders and Brewster and yes beating a retired Ruiz and Audley Harrison mean nothing.
Goback down to cruiser and at least be competative but st ay away from punchers!
Oh, I forgot to mention. I boxed and also used to dig the roads for a living. I had a fucked up little toe from digging in the summer heat for long hours and my toe rubbing on the inside of my boot. It made no difference whatso ever in my punching. When he said it and then offered to prove it I thout we were about to see his big toe all ruined which could make a big difference but it wSnt, it was the little toe that doesnt even touch the floor when driving for a right hand!
The most pathetic thing I heard him say was "im so powerfull" as if to say what a shame I couldnt use it.
Did you hear ali say "im so quick" after the first Frazier fight?
Man that was boring. And people paid to watch this crap?
hahaha ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
IF Haye had pulled out of this fight a second time. He'd be facing a bigger crap storm than he is facing right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Look how much flack he's facing for saying he had a broken toe and the flap he gets for it. Had he backed out of the fight this time just 3 weeks before this showdown, he'd be facing even more scrutiny and everyone claiming that a broken toe is no big deal for a boxer that have probably never boxed in their life with a broken toe. But it would spread like wildfire through the media, and on the boxing forums, and any anticipation for the fight would be killed.
It isn't exactly like when Calzaghe kept getting injured before his bout with Lacy and then went in and dominated. Haye already had a sort of reputation because he pulled out of the first fight which had already spread. So if he'd pulled out again, the fight probably never would have happened. Wladimir would have fought Chisora and went on with his life and October would come and Haye would "retire".
Haye should have simply kept his mouth shut about the toe and he would not be catching nearly as much crap now as he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyIF Haye had pulled out of this fight a second time. He'd be facing a bigger crap storm than he is facing right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Look how much flack he's facing for saying he had a broken toe and the flap he gets for it. Had he backed out of the fight this time just 3 weeks before this showdown, he'd be facing even more scrutiny and everyone claiming that a broken toe is no big deal for a boxer that have probably never boxed in their life with a broken toe. But it would spread like wildfire through the media, and on the boxing forums, and any anticipation for the fight would be killed.
It isn't exactly like when Calzaghe kept getting injured before his bout with Lacy and then went in and dominated. Haye already had a sort of reputation because he pulled out of the first fight which had already spread. So if he'd pulled out again, the fight probably never would have happened. Wladimir would have fought Chisora and went on with his life and October would come and Haye would "retire".
Also I believe Bruno is skeptical regarding Haye's toe injury and that is why he said that Haye should have pulled out IF the toe was that bad.
Obviously if Haye had pulled out it would have been a MUCH bigger shit storm and pulling out of the fight was not a realistic option.
<<How do we know he didnt break it by constantly going down on his knees to suck Wlad off?>>>
mmmmmwwwwwwaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!!!!! i think the 2nd round suck-off was his greatest toe-threat. the 6th round suck-off was just a quick lick.
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How do you know he going for the crotch? Maybe Haye's a toe man.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Come on!Quote:
Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamerHow do you know he going for the crotch? Maybe Haye's a toe man.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Haye could have been deducted a point much earlier for the use of his forehead....to low blow!;D
He ended up with his face in Wlads crotch at least once.
Been listening to various interviews from sports people in the past 2 days and they have all said that with a cortisone injection he would not have felt his toe at all and it would not have had any affect. Rafa Nadal played 4 rounds of Wimbledon with a hair line fracture in his heal!
Anyway, I think Haye knows his mistake and has back tracked to soem degree
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Reallistically... it was probably none of those things, back in the real world for just a second Lyle. ;)
I'm not really sure I see your point. :)
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I think he had an anesthetic or something and that was why he was 10 minutes late walking to the ring. Coupled with the adrenaline I can tell you that he probably didn't feel a thing.
I can tell you personally that when it starts flowing, punches barely hurt... certainatly a lot less than if you were calm and cold.
I really doubt his little toe hurt him that much... if it was his big toe it might have effected him a lot more. He's back tracked on it now but I really didn't like him going on about it right after. But that's emotion for you and everybody is only too happy to talk about it from their arm chairs.
Agreed on both counts... butQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBI agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I think he had an anesthetic or something and that was why he was 10 minutes late walking to the ring. Coupled with the adrenaline I can tell you that he probably didn't feel a thing.
I can tell you personally that when it starts flowing, punches barely hurt... certainatly a lot less than if you were calm and cold.
I really doubt his little toe hurt him that much... if it was his big toe it might have effected him a lot more. He's back tracked on it now but I really didn't like him going on about it right after. But that's emotion for you and everybody is only too happy to talk about it from their arm chairs.
we are sitting in our armchairs not making millions of pounds competing for the greatest prize in sport. When people say 'it's easy for you to say, it wasn't you in there getting hit' That's correct, because that is not the path I chose and I do not have that talent. IMO there is absolutely no excuse for a fighter being gun shy, Audley Harrison is the king of it, but Haye definitely showed signs of it against both Wlad and Valuev.
Yeah, I was definetly dissapointed in his performance but some people are going waaaaay overboard.
I think Haye was definetly afraid... He had the bottle to go after Wlad in the 12th once he'd realised Wlad probably wasn't quite the beast he'd likely built up in his mind as but was too tired to be clean. That and he just didn't fancy the risk, until the 12th were he knew he needed it.
I'm thinking that if he'd used similar tactics to the ones that he used *but* tried to lay on Wlad's chest and just look busy working a few quicky flurrys in... if not to be that effective, just to look busy and smother Wlad then he might have been able to pick some more rounds up.
i didn't think there was a debate on the toe.
Yes it's broken
No it didn't determin the result of the fight.
what's to debate?
Two things. I played football games in college with a broken big toe. No fun at all but not really debilitating. A pinky toe? Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Second I think you have something on tactics. How many times did 13 make Wlad miss with the jab and not do anything with it? A single step inside with his left foot and the right side of Wlad's body is wide open, at least for a second. But it takes nerve to close and 13 didn't have it. The big question is why? Wlad has no history of doing anything when in tight except holding. So what exactly is the risk? It's not like Wlad excels at short hooks or uppercuts. Make that slipping he did useful 5-6 times by landing some right hands inside and maybe Wlad gets shy about throwing the jab. If that happens all sorts of things open up (maybe).
But nerve/balls/daring/desire to win is the necessary ingredient.
He's saying that he thought he'd never win by UD. I think he was looking for a big shot but either he under estimated Wlad's chin/over estimated his own power or more likely a bit of both.
The 12th round showed that he could smother wlad in close... probsbly why he's kicking himself and wanting a rematch he'll never get.
What the hell does getting inside have to do with "not being able to win by decision?" If 13 could get Wlad to stop jabbing? Everything changes, doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
What KILLS me about this is that 13 didn't do ANYTHING different once it bcame VERY clear Plan A was a no go. Say around round five.
Look at pictures 3,4,5,6 and 7 below. Look how open Wlad's body is if 13 will step inside and punch!
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/1...-photo-gallery