First on his hit list is Stann. He's getting that gold, watch out Silva. What do you guy's think? I've been dieing to see him back in the octagon! Cannot wait! :)
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First on his hit list is Stann. He's getting that gold, watch out Silva. What do you guy's think? I've been dieing to see him back in the octagon! Cannot wait! :)
Good to have him back. MW is kind of lean. I think he will maul Stann though.
Brian Stann is a tough customer. I think this is just about a pick em fight myself.
Do you think Stann is equal to or better than Marquardt? Nate had some moments against Chael but he couldn't keep the fight standing and got beat up for most of the fight. I just don't see Stann doing any better a job staying off his back then Nate did and while his power should not be discounted I do not think Chael will have quite as much respect for his standup that he did for Nate. Rich Franklin doesn't compete at MW anymore but I'd give him a better shot at beating Chael than just about anyone at MW currently other than Silva.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Stann is a tough cookie, and his hands a fairly lethal !
Sonnen is a f'kin drugs cheat, after all the shit he comes out with and he's let back in to fight! Will be interesting to see how he does now he's not on drugs.
I hope Stann knocks him into next week !
Even with the whole 'steroid thing'.... i dont think steroids would of really enhanced that performance too much. His gameplan was what was beating silva, i dont think anyone can really sit there and claim that chael wouldnt of been able to hold down silva without roids considering hes held down stronger guys before eg marquardt.
I think he will be still as good as he has been in his past couple of performances and will ground and pound the shit out of stann.
Chael just needs to start training submission defence, its his biggest flaw.
Ya know what ya gonna get with Chael, he's gonna try to get ya down, then ground and pound, his wrestling skills are quality, make no bones about that. What I dont agree with is the shit he comes out with pre-fight, only to be caught as a cheat, and now making a comeback, speaking even more shite :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
The steroids made him stronger, otherwise why take them?
Nate was on drugs, for quite a while by all accounts, thats probably the reason he got his original shot at Silva.
Same for Sonnen. Now he's back im interested to see how his performance is, although I personally dont think he should be allowed to fight in the UFC again.
He took steriods to make his testostrone levels that of a normal male so he wasn't at a disadvantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanYa know what ya gonna get with Chael, he's gonna try to get ya down, then ground and pound, his wrestling skills are quality, make no bones about that. What I dont agree with is the shit he comes out with pre-fight, only to be caught as a cheat, and now making a comeback, speaking even more shite :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
The steroids made him stronger, otherwise why take them?
Nate was on drugs, for quite a while by all accounts, thats probably the reason he got his original shot at Silva.
Same for Sonnen. Now he's back im interested to see how his performance is, although I personally dont think he should be allowed to fight in the UFC again.
Not on drugs? He will be on the exact same meds as he was for the Silva fight just this time around the commission will be informed properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyhitman
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfanHe took steriods to make his testostrone levels that of a normal male so he wasn't at a disadvantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanYa know what ya gonna get with Chael, he's gonna try to get ya down, then ground and pound, his wrestling skills are quality, make no bones about that. What I dont agree with is the shit he comes out with pre-fight, only to be caught as a cheat, and now making a comeback, speaking even more shite :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
The steroids made him stronger, otherwise why take them?
Nate was on drugs, for quite a while by all accounts, thats probably the reason he got his original shot at Silva.
Same for Sonnen. Now he's back im interested to see how his performance is, although I personally dont think he should be allowed to fight in the UFC again.
Hmm, not from what i read in the past:
Sonnen tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone, which according to a subsequent CSAC statement, is "indicative" of steroid use. CSAC officials issued Sonnen a one-year suspension and $2,500 fine in the wake of the test. He had a 30-day window to appeal the ruling.
According to Dodd, Sonnen was flagged first on Sept. 2 after an initial test revealed the presence of a possible performance-enhancer. A second, more-rigorous test conducted at the UCLA's Olympic Analytical Laboratory confirmed the results. The laboratory is used by the U.S. Olympic Committee and is the world's largest World Anti-Doping Agency-certified facility.
California commission to hear Chael Sonnen's drug-test appeal on Dec. 2 | MMAjunkie.com
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Chael Sonnen tested for “well above normal levels of testosterone,” according to CSAC executive director George Dodd. More coming on SI.com
http://www.mondaymorningblackbelt.com/?p=1010
The opening sentence say's it all.
And if as you say, why the hell did he not protest and have the ban reduced ala Sherk ?
He took PEDS, was caught, took his ban and fine on that PED chin.
Hmm not what i heard from Chael SonnenQuote:
Originally Posted by Mattyhitman:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfanHe took steriods to make his testostrone levels that of a normal male so he wasn't at a disadvantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanYa know what ya gonna get with Chael, he's gonna try to get ya down, then ground and pound, his wrestling skills are quality, make no bones about that. What I dont agree with is the shit he comes out with pre-fight, only to be caught as a cheat, and now making a comeback, speaking even more shite :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
The steroids made him stronger, otherwise why take them?
Nate was on drugs, for quite a while by all accounts, thats probably the reason he got his original shot at Silva.
Same for Sonnen. Now he's back im interested to see how his performance is, although I personally dont think he should be allowed to fight in the UFC again.
Hmm, not from what i read in the past:
Sonnen tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone, which according to a subsequent CSAC statement, is "indicative" of steroid use. CSAC officials issued Sonnen a one-year suspension and $2,500 fine in the wake of the test. He had a 30-day window to appeal the ruling.
According to Dodd, Sonnen was flagged first on Sept. 2 after an initial test revealed the presence of a possible performance-enhancer. A second, more-rigorous test conducted at the UCLA's Olympic Analytical Laboratory confirmed the results. The laboratory is used by the U.S. Olympic Committee and is the world's largest World Anti-Doping Agency-certified facility.
California commission to hear Chael Sonnen's drug-test appeal on Dec. 2 | MMAjunkie.com
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Did Chael Sonnen Know he may fail drug test and lie about it on questionnaire? | Monday Morning Black Belt
The opening sentence say's it all.
And if as you say, why the hell did he not protest and have the ban reduced ala Sherk ?
He took PEDS, was caught took his ban and fine on that PED chin.
:rolleyes:
YouTube - ‪Chael Sonnen Breaks his silence to Mike Straka‬‏
He even told them before his fight that he would test posative for PED's because they are for his condition. His ban was lifted when they established he needed them.
Carnt see the you-tube clip, but you've just admitted he took PEDS, which showed up to be higher than normal testosterone levels. Bang to rights the cheating fuker !Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfanHmm not what i heard from Chael SonnenQuote:
Originally Posted by Mattyhitman:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfanHe took steriods to make his testostrone levels that of a normal male so he wasn't at a disadvantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanYa know what ya gonna get with Chael, he's gonna try to get ya down, then ground and pound, his wrestling skills are quality, make no bones about that. What I dont agree with is the shit he comes out with pre-fight, only to be caught as a cheat, and now making a comeback, speaking even more shite :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
The steroids made him stronger, otherwise why take them?
Nate was on drugs, for quite a while by all accounts, thats probably the reason he got his original shot at Silva.
Same for Sonnen. Now he's back im interested to see how his performance is, although I personally dont think he should be allowed to fight in the UFC again.
Hmm, not from what i read in the past:
Sonnen tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone, which according to a subsequent CSAC statement, is "indicative" of steroid use. CSAC officials issued Sonnen a one-year suspension and $2,500 fine in the wake of the test. He had a 30-day window to appeal the ruling.
According to Dodd, Sonnen was flagged first on Sept. 2 after an initial test revealed the presence of a possible performance-enhancer. A second, more-rigorous test conducted at the UCLA's Olympic Analytical Laboratory confirmed the results. The laboratory is used by the U.S. Olympic Committee and is the world's largest World Anti-Doping Agency-certified facility.
California commission to hear Chael Sonnen's drug-test appeal on Dec. 2 | MMAjunkie.com
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Did Chael Sonnen Know he may fail drug test and lie about it on questionnaire? | Monday Morning Black Belt
The opening sentence say's it all.
And if as you say, why the hell did he not protest and have the ban reduced ala Sherk ?
He took PEDS, was caught took his ban and fine on that PED chin.
:rolleyes:
YouTube - ‪Chael Sonnen Breaks his silence to Mike Straka‬‏
He even told them before his fight that he would test posative for PED's because they are for his condition. His ban was lifted when they established he needed them.
I never said he didn't use peds. The difference is he was using them to enhance himself but instead for medical purposes which was established by the commission.
Exactly, he was enhanced.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
Sonnen-Stann Penciled for UFC 136 in Houston
The fighter’s recent indefinite suspension from the California State Athletic Commission was lifted when his fight license expired on June 29, making him eligible to reapply for a new license in any state.
Add to the fact his money laundering allegations in Oregon, this bloke is a knob!!
Entertaining when he was around last time, but I dont think he should be allowed back. Hope Stann knocks his head off, or breaks his arm. ;)
Its was for a condition get it in your head it wasn't for enhancing him! And Stann is going down to get pounded for three rounds. Then its Silva's turn.
It is in my head... he cheated... he boosted his level to above normal levels, probably on more than one occasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
If he couldnt fight without taking PEDS, cos he has some condition ( condition being he was too weak to compete ) then it's simple ...dont fight! ;)
Sonnen has low testosterone levels, he uses testosterone replacement therapy to get his levels back up to normal. He has for years, he came in at acceptable levels on all but one occasion. As long he's in normal ranges, he's fine. Hendo has also used TRT since 2007 (the first fighter to get a therapeutic use exemption), Couture does as well, it's a treatment for a legit medical condition. This is no different than Velasquez fixing his torn rotator cuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanIt is in my head... he cheated... he boosted his level to above normal levels, probably on more than one occasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
If he couldnt fight without taking PEDS, cos he has some condition ( condition being he was too weak to compete ) then it's simple ...dont fight! ;)
Apart from one occasion eh ? and that happened to be the fight for the title eh ?!?! What a suprise :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain AmericaSonnen has low testosterone levels, he uses testosterone replacement therapy to get his levels back up to normal. He has for years, he came in at acceptable levels on all but one occasion. As long he's in normal ranges, he's fine. Hendo has also used TRT since 2007 (the first fighter to get a therapeutic use exemption), Couture does as well, it's a treatment for a legit medical condition. This is no different than Velasquez fixing his torn rotator cuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanIt is in my head... he cheated... he boosted his level to above normal levels, probably on more than one occasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
If he couldnt fight without taking PEDS, cos he has some condition ( condition being he was too weak to compete ) then it's simple ...dont fight! ;)
If he had been doing it for years, then he should be aware of his levels and how much to take. No excuse for being above normal level ;)
Just give up man! ;D It wasn't intentional it was for medical purposes not enhancing!Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanApart from one occasion eh ? and that happened to be the fight for the title eh ?!?! What a suprise :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain AmericaSonnen has low testosterone levels, he uses testosterone replacement therapy to get his levels back up to normal. He has for years, he came in at acceptable levels on all but one occasion. As long he's in normal ranges, he's fine. Hendo has also used TRT since 2007 (the first fighter to get a therapeutic use exemption), Couture does as well, it's a treatment for a legit medical condition. This is no different than Velasquez fixing his torn rotator cuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanIt is in my head... he cheated... he boosted his level to above normal levels, probably on more than one occasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
If he couldnt fight without taking PEDS, cos he has some condition ( condition being he was too weak to compete ) then it's simple ...dont fight! ;)
If he had been doing it for years, then he should be aware of his levels and how much to take. No excuse for being above normal level ;)
You just will not let it lie will ya ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfanJust give up man! ;D It wasn't intentional it was for medical purposes not enhancing!Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanApart from one occasion eh ? and that happened to be the fight for the title eh ?!?! What a suprise :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain AmericaSonnen has low testosterone levels, he uses testosterone replacement therapy to get his levels back up to normal. He has for years, he came in at acceptable levels on all but one occasion. As long he's in normal ranges, he's fine. Hendo has also used TRT since 2007 (the first fighter to get a therapeutic use exemption), Couture does as well, it's a treatment for a legit medical condition. This is no different than Velasquez fixing his torn rotator cuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanIt is in my head... he cheated... he boosted his level to above normal levels, probably on more than one occasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
If he couldnt fight without taking PEDS, cos he has some condition ( condition being he was too weak to compete ) then it's simple ...dont fight! ;)
If he had been doing it for years, then he should be aware of his levels and how much to take. No excuse for being above normal level ;)
All this will count for shit anyway when Stann beats his ass :D
^ Right, because Stann has always shown such great wrestling. Sonnen is a wrestling juggernaut with good enough hands to set up his shot. Stann's in for a world of hurt
That's the way I see it going. Stann will be out wrestled and and brutalized on the ground for 3 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain America
:bananasex: Im not sure which one of you two is which banana ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfanThat's the way I see it going. Stann will be out wrestled and and brutalized on the ground for 3 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain America
Yeah but Chael never tested positive before the Silva fight and he held down guys with better wrestling and physically stronger than Silva so i dont think the peds would of made much difference really. Chaels game plan is to ground and pound the shit out of you, he did it to Silva no different to anyone else hes done it to. The only reason why it looked so good was coz wrestling is becoming a known weakness of Andersons. Henderson had him in trouble in the first round and chael threw him around like a rag doll and Jon Jones would destroy him inside one round if they ever fought ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyhitmanYa know what ya gonna get with Chael, he's gonna try to get ya down, then ground and pound, his wrestling skills are quality, make no bones about that. What I dont agree with is the shit he comes out with pre-fight, only to be caught as a cheat, and now making a comeback, speaking even more shite :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
The steroids made him stronger, otherwise why take them?
Nate was on drugs, for quite a while by all accounts, thats probably the reason he got his original shot at Silva.
Same for Sonnen. Now he's back im interested to see how his performance is, although I personally dont think he should be allowed to fight in the UFC again.