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    Default Re: Sonnen is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
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    Even with the whole 'steroid thing'.... i dont think steroids would of really enhanced that performance too much. His gameplan was what was beating silva, i dont think anyone can really sit there and claim that chael wouldnt of been able to hold down silva without roids considering hes held down stronger guys before eg marquardt.

    I think he will be still as good as he has been in his past couple of performances and will ground and pound the shit out of stann.

    Chael just needs to start training submission defence, its his biggest flaw.
    Ya know what ya gonna get with Chael, he's gonna try to get ya down, then ground and pound, his wrestling skills are quality, make no bones about that. What I dont agree with is the shit he comes out with pre-fight, only to be caught as a cheat, and now making a comeback, speaking even more shite

    The steroids made him stronger, otherwise why take them?
    Nate was on drugs, for quite a while by all accounts, thats probably the reason he got his original shot at Silva.
    Same for Sonnen. Now he's back im interested to see how his performance is, although I personally dont think he should be allowed to fight in the UFC again.
    He took steriods to make his testostrone levels that of a normal male so he wasn't at a disadvantage.


    Hmm, not from what i read in the past:

    Sonnen tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone, which according to a subsequent CSAC statement, is "indicative" of steroid use. CSAC officials issued Sonnen a one-year suspension and $2,500 fine in the wake of the test. He had a 30-day window to appeal the ruling.

    According to Dodd, Sonnen was flagged first on Sept. 2 after an initial test revealed the presence of a possible performance-enhancer. A second, more-rigorous test conducted at the UCLA's Olympic Analytical Laboratory confirmed the results. The laboratory is used by the U.S. Olympic Committee and is the world's largest World Anti-Doping Agency-certified facility.

    California commission to hear Chael Sonnen's drug-test appeal on Dec. 2 | MMAjunkie.com

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    Chael Sonnen tested for “well above normal levels of testosterone,” according to CSAC executive director George Dodd. More coming on SI.com
    http://www.mondaymorningblackbelt.com/?p=1010

    The opening sentence say's it all.

    And if as you say, why the hell did he not protest and have the ban reduced ala Sherk ?

    He took PEDS, was caught, took his ban and fine on that PED chin.
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    Default Re: Sonnen is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey View Post
    Even with the whole 'steroid thing'.... i dont think steroids would of really enhanced that performance too much. His gameplan was what was beating silva, i dont think anyone can really sit there and claim that chael wouldnt of been able to hold down silva without roids considering hes held down stronger guys before eg marquardt.

    I think he will be still as good as he has been in his past couple of performances and will ground and pound the shit out of stann.

    Chael just needs to start training submission defence, its his biggest flaw.
    Ya know what ya gonna get with Chael, he's gonna try to get ya down, then ground and pound, his wrestling skills are quality, make no bones about that. What I dont agree with is the shit he comes out with pre-fight, only to be caught as a cheat, and now making a comeback, speaking even more shite

    The steroids made him stronger, otherwise why take them?
    Nate was on drugs, for quite a while by all accounts, thats probably the reason he got his original shot at Silva.
    Same for Sonnen. Now he's back im interested to see how his performance is, although I personally dont think he should be allowed to fight in the UFC again.
    He took steriods to make his testostrone levels that of a normal male so he wasn't at a disadvantage.


    Hmm, not from what i read in the past:

    Sonnen tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone, which according to a subsequent CSAC statement, is "indicative" of steroid use. CSAC officials issued Sonnen a one-year suspension and $2,500 fine in the wake of the test. He had a 30-day window to appeal the ruling.

    According to Dodd, Sonnen was flagged first on Sept. 2 after an initial test revealed the presence of a possible performance-enhancer. A second, more-rigorous test conducted at the UCLA's Olympic Analytical Laboratory confirmed the results. The laboratory is used by the U.S. Olympic Committee and is the world's largest World Anti-Doping Agency-certified facility.

    California commission to hear Chael Sonnen's drug-test appeal on Dec. 2 | MMAjunkie.com

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    Did Chael Sonnen Know he may fail drug test and lie about it on questionnaire? | Monday Morning Black Belt

    The opening sentence say's it all.

    And if as you say, why the hell did he not protest and have the ban reduced ala Sherk ?

    He took PEDS, was caught took his ban and fine on that PED chin.
    Hmm not what i heard from Chael Sonnen


    YouTube - ‪Chael Sonnen Breaks his silence to Mike Straka‬‏
    He even told them before his fight that he would test posative for PED's because they are for his condition. His ban was lifted when they established he needed them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
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    Even with the whole 'steroid thing'.... i dont think steroids would of really enhanced that performance too much. His gameplan was what was beating silva, i dont think anyone can really sit there and claim that chael wouldnt of been able to hold down silva without roids considering hes held down stronger guys before eg marquardt.

    I think he will be still as good as he has been in his past couple of performances and will ground and pound the shit out of stann.

    Chael just needs to start training submission defence, its his biggest flaw.
    Ya know what ya gonna get with Chael, he's gonna try to get ya down, then ground and pound, his wrestling skills are quality, make no bones about that. What I dont agree with is the shit he comes out with pre-fight, only to be caught as a cheat, and now making a comeback, speaking even more shite

    The steroids made him stronger, otherwise why take them?
    Nate was on drugs, for quite a while by all accounts, thats probably the reason he got his original shot at Silva.
    Same for Sonnen. Now he's back im interested to see how his performance is, although I personally dont think he should be allowed to fight in the UFC again.
    He took steriods to make his testostrone levels that of a normal male so he wasn't at a disadvantage.


    Hmm, not from what i read in the past:

    Sonnen tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone, which according to a subsequent CSAC statement, is "indicative" of steroid use. CSAC officials issued Sonnen a one-year suspension and $2,500 fine in the wake of the test. He had a 30-day window to appeal the ruling.

    According to Dodd, Sonnen was flagged first on Sept. 2 after an initial test revealed the presence of a possible performance-enhancer. A second, more-rigorous test conducted at the UCLA's Olympic Analytical Laboratory confirmed the results. The laboratory is used by the U.S. Olympic Committee and is the world's largest World Anti-Doping Agency-certified facility.

    California commission to hear Chael Sonnen's drug-test appeal on Dec. 2 | MMAjunkie.com

    &
    Did Chael Sonnen Know he may fail drug test and lie about it on questionnaire? | Monday Morning Black Belt

    The opening sentence say's it all.

    And if as you say, why the hell did he not protest and have the ban reduced ala Sherk ?

    He took PEDS, was caught took his ban and fine on that PED chin.
    Hmm not what i heard from Chael Sonnen


    YouTube - ‪Chael Sonnen Breaks his silence to Mike Straka‬‏
    He even told them before his fight that he would test posative for PED's because they are for his condition. His ban was lifted when they established he needed them.
    Carnt see the you-tube clip, but you've just admitted he took PEDS, which showed up to be higher than normal testosterone levels. Bang to rights the cheating fuker !
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    I never said he didn't use peds. The difference is he was using them to enhance himself but instead for medical purposes which was established by the commission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
    I never said he didn't use peds. The difference is he was using them to enhance himself
    Exactly, he was enhanced.
    Sonnen-Stann Penciled for UFC 136 in Houston
    The fighter’s recent indefinite suspension from the California State Athletic Commission was lifted when his fight license expired on June 29, making him eligible to reapply for a new license in any state.

    Add to the fact his money laundering allegations in Oregon, this bloke is a knob!!

    Entertaining when he was around last time, but I dont think he should be allowed back. Hope Stann knocks his head off, or breaks his arm.
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    Its was for a condition get it in your head it wasn't for enhancing him! And Stann is going down to get pounded for three rounds. Then its Silva's turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
    Its was for a condition get it in your head it wasn't for enhancing him! And Stann is going down to get pounded for three rounds. Then its Silva's turn.
    It is in my head... he cheated... he boosted his level to above normal levels, probably on more than one occasion.
    If he couldnt fight without taking PEDS, cos he has some condition ( condition being he was too weak to compete ) then it's simple ...dont fight!
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