Roach has all but confirmed that the fight is happening in December.
Not overly impressed as I think it is a step backwards but, if Bradley doesn't want to fight, isn't anyone else for him to fight really.
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Roach has all but confirmed that the fight is happening in December.
Not overly impressed as I think it is a step backwards but, if Bradley doesn't want to fight, isn't anyone else for him to fight really.
agreed this means nothing. Morales well on the slide now despite his showing against maidana.
Hopefully Prescott will blow Mcclosckey away and he will enter frame.
A puncher is the only fighter who is going to beat Khan.
Morales is a name Bradley is a shame!
Bradley needs to take the Khan fight. He's never going to get a fight with Mayweather.
He isn't after Mayweather so you're probably right...Quote:
Originally Posted by SEANIE
If Guerrero, Rios, Maidana, Holt & Matthysse could form an orderly queue, I'd be most grateful.
Just heard that Morales has decided NOT to fight Anthony Crolla in September.
That's the fight with Khan agreed then...
My guess is GBP decided to cut offer in order to put Alvarez vs Gomez on the PPV card of Mayweather / Ortiz which closed that door.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantz
People are talking as if Morales is no challenge for Khan. Morales may be old but he showed everyone against Maidana he is no Zab Judah. What would have been the outcome of the Maidana fight if Morales had two eyes for the complete fight?
Fighting Morales is a step backwards. I know Erik done well against Maidana but Maidana is too one dimension and just comes forward in straight lines. Khan is too quick, too big and too strong for Morales. I think he'll stop him in around six. If that.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyMy guess is GBP decided to cut offer in order to put Alvarez vs Gomez on the PPV card of Mayweather / Ortiz which closed that door.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantz
People are talking as if Morales is no challenge for Khan. Morales may be old but he showed everyone against Maidana he is no Zab Judah. What would have been the outcome of the Maidana fight if Morales had two eyes for the complete fight?
Wouldn't say a step backward. Morales might be tougher than Judah.
Khan and strength is an Oxymoron. Khan is slightly taller than Morales not too big for him. As far as Khan's career is concerned facing Morales is no further backward than Mayweather facing Mosley. Morales is a much better technical boxer than Judah or Maidana and although he is slower in his old age he still has his timing. Khan doesn't have a huge punch output and would definately have to box Morales on the outside and utilize his quickness to defeat Morales the same as when he fought Maidana otherwise he gets KO'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzFighting Morales is a step backwards. I know Erik done well against Maidana but Maidana is too one dimension and just comes forward in straight lines. Khan is too quick, too big and too strong for Morales. I think he'll stop him in around six. If that.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyMy guess is GBP decided to cut offer in order to put Alvarez vs Gomez on the PPV card of Mayweather / Ortiz which closed that door.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantz
People are talking as if Morales is no challenge for Khan. Morales may be old but he showed everyone against Maidana he is no Zab Judah. What would have been the outcome of the Maidana fight if Morales had two eyes for the complete fight?
I dont think so. Khan is quick and thats about it. His chin isnt the greatest even though he has beatn some decent punchers. The decent punchers he has beaten arent that great at keeping up with Khan or very skillfull. Bradley would drag Khan in to a fight and I reckon hed outwork him maybe even to a stoppage. Morales is too small and old for Khan but will still manage to give him some scary moments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Its a backwards step for Khan imo, i know Morales is coming of a decent showing and a close lose to Maidana but Maidana is not a worldclass boxer he is just a good puncher Maybe if Morales eye didnt swell he might of won but that is boxing u get hit and you swell up.
Morales is way past his best and fighting at a higher weight than he used to in his prime and at the age of 34 he isnt gonna beat Khan who is just to srtong and fast for him.
Morales hasnt beat a world class fighter since Manny Pacquiao back in 2005.He did have around 3 years out of boxing inbetween but still its along time ago.
I really hope they don't feed this fight to boxing fans, if it does happen, I know I won't be watching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantz
Well if Bradely doesn't step up to the plate there are not many options at 140. I would rather see him fight Lucas Matthysse, but you can't blame the guy if Bradley doesn't man up. Morales doesn't seem that bad given the options, but yes Khan wins by KO within 6.
This fight is just another big name past his prime that will make Khan's resume look nice.
Bingo! And the boxing wheel continues!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
My problem isn't Morales so much it is that it is happening in December fer crissake.
I mean it's not like Amir has much to recover from. Fight Morales in September and then Guererro or Maidana or Mathysse in December.
Agree but I don't think it would take him that long - as another post says it's another past the best fighter (no disrespect to Morales as he is a great) for his cv! Look I know I may be contradicting myself re going backwards BUT Khan has one loss on his record....how he can look himself in the mirror every day and not put that one to bed I just don't know!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzFighting Morales is a step backwards. I know Erik done well against Maidana but Maidana is too one dimension and just comes forward in straight lines. Khan is tooQuote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyMy guess is GBP decided to cutQuote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantz
offer in order to put Alvarez vs Gomez on the PPV card of Mayweather / Ortiz which closed that door.
People are talking as if Morales is no challenge for Khan. Morales may
be old but he showed everyone against Maidana he is no Zab Judah. What would have been the outcome of the Maidana fight if Morales had two eyes for the complete fight?
quick, too big and too strong for Morales. I think he'll stop him in around six. If that.
Surley kahn can get a better fight than this?! Dont get me wrong morales was awsum but i wont think anymore of kahn by watching him bash up an over the hill fighter 4 12rounds! I would of liked to see kahn in wiv a 'ten year ago morales'. if bradley doesnt grow some balls id rather see kahn step up and box brook or even berto than a faded morales, i think unless bradley goes 4 either floyd or pac (very unlikey!!) hes a disgrace 4not fightin kahn, especially as kahn is very beatable?!?
Pointless.
What? Barrera unavailable for a second go man ???
Khan is stacking his resume with highly visable though far from top form names again here. Styles make fights and Morales will be steps behind the entire night.
Always good to keep your name in the media though, even if its not the biggest fight, he's trying to make a himself more of a household name, so he's got to keep getting out there!
Boxing - Morales vs Barrios?
Maybe Khan wont be fighting Morales next
I was against this when Roach first joked about it. Wanker.
That being said Morales would at least TRY which is a hell of a lot more than Judah looked to do.
I think it's an ok fight. He's still learning. I think people forget he's only 24.
I'm just wondering what exactly is Khan's main goal in 2012? Is it a fight with Mayweather or Pacquaio? I can't see the point of fighting Morales other than the fact Morales is a 'name'? He will beat Bradley so then what?
If it's a mega fight he wants then if i was Khan i would be at the next Mayweather fight taunting him at ringside.
Exactly! He's still only 24 and he's staying busy until he gets the big fights he wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
We've covered this before but you'll seriously struggle to find any other boxer out there Khan's age who's faced the standard of opposition he has.
Everyone is making out he's the first person to ever fight a past it legend.
Amir is trying to get the titles stripped from Bradley as it is. Khan’s preference is to fight Bradley, he has done everything but call Bradley’s mother a whore, to get him to fight. This is a back up for him and if Morales does win then it is another strap for Amir to claim.
I think this would look a lot like Pac - Morales III. Khan is just going to be too quick for a faded Morales.
A nice pay day for both fighters but I agree that it is a step back for Amir besides the name. I would have rather seen Eric fight Judah or even Mosley at this point. But in boxing it is written that it is out with the old and in with the new and Morales is a speed bump for bigger and better things for Amir. And I predict that regardless of the outcome of JMM and Pac that Khan will be next for JMM...Just a hunch
Right, another washed up "hall of famer" to fatten Khan's resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Sure Morales would try, and he'd have to do more then Judah, who only landed 20 punches the entire fight against Khan, but at this stage of Erik's career, a fight with Khan would have to be a total mismatch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Ok all you whiners who are such doomers about everything, who would you have Khan fight?
Bradley won't go near him, he's already beaten Maidana and Judah, who were the other highest rated challengers.
Morales just fought a thriller with Maidana in what was one of the very best fights of the year, he's a massive name and it's a big interwst fight. It's also dependent on Morales winning his next fight.
So, as it's such a shit fight, who should Khan fight? How does he pursuade them to fight him? And what do they bring to the table more than Eric Morales?
People on here just like to bitch without thinking. They want every fight to be the hardest and best fight possible across the board, which is a bit difficult to achieve when one of these top opponents is fighting somebody else.
Also, they resent big stars winning world titles or even fighting for them if they don't consider it "just", but then whine when there is a mediocre champion holding a belt.
So if Manny wins a world title at a catchweight it makes a mockery of the belt, it should be vacant and fought for by two journymen, the p4p best fighter on the planet is not good enough to be champ, but they are.
Or if a fighter like Berto loses his title in his sixth defence he shouldnt be allowed a shot to win another, again a journeyman should be given his chance.
Then if a fighter like Saul Alvarez wins a belt he doesn't deserve it, he's not proved he's world class yet, he should be made to earn his shot as he might be just a journeyman. Then when he chooses a journeyman to defend against it's an outrage. He's handpicking easy meat, he should fight an established, proven star, like a former world champ who has just lost a world title...and round and round the lunatic statements go.
It's like people think there is an unlimited pool of top level elite opponents available for top fighters to face at all times...
I just wish people would think before posting sometimes as the gripes are usually very very silly indeed.
Ok lets try and go through this.
Here are the Ring rankings at Jr Welterweight. Please someone explain who is the better fight that Amir must take.
1. Khan Top rated guy now according to the Ring
2. Bradley, Khan has offered him everything, but Bradley won't fight him.
3. Maidana, Khan already beat him, scraped a win over Morales last time out
4. D Alexander, dominated by Bradley, most think he lost to Matthyse,many think he lost to Kotelnik, a guy Khan breezed by.
5. Kotelnik, Khan already beat him in a one sided fight.
6. Matthyse, has lost his last two including one to Judah, who Khan blew away
7. Lamont Peterson, dominated by lightweight Brandon Rios. Was floored and should have lost a fairly one sided decision to Ortiz in what was a rather disgraceful draw.
8.Erik Morales, this guy makes sense to me. Big name, came so close to beating Maidana who gave Khan a war. Probably will be shortlisted for fight of the year.
9. Zab Judah. Khan just stomped him
10. Danny Garcia...err who?
So that's the shortlist, please someone explain why Morales is worse than the others on that list?
It might seem "very very silly" or like "bitching without thinking" to you Bilbo, but I have no interest in watching Morales in a mismatch with Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Who does Khan fight then that won't be a mismatch?
Hmm well lets throw a few names out there. Humberto Soto could be an interesting fight. I'm sure Brandon Rios would pack on a few pounds and go after Khan. Rematch with Maidana or how about Joan Guzman?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Joan Guzman is getting on now, he is a huge waste of talent and he strugles to make the weight in alot of his fight so i wouldnt fight him.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09Hmm well lets throw a few names out there. Humberto Soto could be an interesting fight. I'm sure Brandon Rios would pack on a few pounds and go after Khan. Rematch with Maidana or how about Joan Guzman?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Brandon Rios would be an ok opponent even though he would have to move up aweight. There is the winner of Maidana - Guerrero fight which i think Guerrero wins. That would be a good opponent for Khan if Guerrrero wins imo.
Khan fights at junior welter, both Rios and Soto hold world title belts at lightweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09Hmm well lets throw a few names out there. Humberto Soto could be an interesting fight. I'm sure Brandon Rios would pack on a few pounds and go after Khan. Rematch with Maidana or how about Joan Guzman?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
They would be more likely to face each other no, and try and unify the lightweight division?
Rios has no intention of moving up yet, he's said he wants to carry on at lightweight.
I think it's hilarious that when guys like Manny and Floyd move through weight classes people criticise them for not cleaning out a division, and now Khan is cleaning out a division you want him to move through weight classes or bring smaller guys up.
You have agreed with me though, there is no better challenge at 140 for Khan than Morales.
Guzman is a ridiculous choice btw. Not only has he discredited the sport multiple times whilst failing to make weight and refusing to fight he got the biggest gift draw in years agiants Ali Funeka at lightweight, and then came in for the rematch massively overweight, didn't even attempt to make weight and rather disgracefully was allowed to win the rematch. He deserves nothing. Also, where is he ranked in the 140 lb division?
Also, what makes you think Soto is a better opponent than Morales? Didn't Morales just fight a war with Maidana and lose a razor thin decision in arguably the best fight of the year so far? What makes you think Soto at light welter would do better than him? Seeing as Morales is worldranked and now proven at this weight class following that performance shouldn't we follow the rankings and results and matchup the best ranked fighters? Soto is unranked at 140 and would almost certainly not want to give up his newly acquired belt at 135 anyway.
Your picks just prove that Khan has no better opponent to face than Morales right now. Yes I think he will win comfortably, but when you are the best in the division that tends to happen in most fights. There are only one or two fighters at 140 who can really teat Khan and he can't make a career out of fighting only those two over and over.
Morales is the best matchup available at this time, a massive name, a ticket seller, and coming off one of the best fights of the year.