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Bradley not stripped from title but has the very new title of "champion in recess"
Sulaiman is really the biggest piece of shit ever, just trying to milk more money off the belt by sanctionning the belt for even more fights!
As president of the WBC, I feel that I should make a brief press note in answer to several criticisms received from some writers in regards to the Timothy Bradley case. Bradley is a great fighter and a pride of the WBC. We gave him first the opportunity before any other even noticed him, and he has won the WBC title twice. The WBC is a not-for-profit organization that has its rules, which should be abided by, if any boxer wants to become a WBC Champion.
There are traffic laws that are respected: if you don’t stop at a red light, you are violating the law and will be fined. If you don’t have a driving license you should not drive, or you will be fined. If you issue a check without funds, that is fraud.
Our rules for champions state that each champion should defend the title at least three times a year and when you reach six months of inactivity, the title might be withdrawn, The WBC wrote three times to Timothy, and neither he nor his representatives wrote back, nor have they announced at any time any scheduled fight at all to defend his title. They seemed not to care that there are many other classified boxers who wish to contend for the title, which the champion has frozen.
However, the WBC did not “strip” Bradley. We declared him still “champion in recess” so that he will have the doors of the WBC opened for when he is able to return, while we declared the active championship vacant with the new champion to fight Bradley when he returns to boxing.
As simple as that.
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Re: Bradley not stripped from title but has the very new title of "champion in recess
uh? If the vacant title has been won by Morales and Bradley finally decides to fight Khan who then is the WBC Champion? I guess it means he's not striped until he fights again. Now if he fight Morales instead then who gets to step into the ring first?
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I'm getting fed up with the champion ship belts. You have the wba with muliple champions in the same weight and also wbc with champions in recess plus the diamond belt which i think the wbc made.
It's all getting very silly imo.
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"Not for profit organisatzion" certainly not a profit to boxing but dam sure a profit to sulaimans wallet size.
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The price of cheese has gone up and all the rats are protesting, right Mr Suliman?
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littlebif
I'm getting fed up with the champion ship belts. You have the wba with muliple champions in the same weight and also wbc with champions in recess plus the diamond belt which i think the wbc made.
It's all getting very silly imo.
It got silly a long time ago. The Ring belt/policy is the only one that's respectable.
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"Not for profit organisatzion" certainly not a profit to boxing but dam sure a profit to sulaimans wallet size.
Made me laugh too. Not for profit. Bull shit!
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Bilbo will be in here a minute to tell us how great this and the WBC are for the sport of boxing, and yeah they are non-profit b/c the alphabets are what is keeping boxers from indentured servitude.
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His logic seems to make sense to me. If those are the rules for the WBC. It might be wrong but hey the WBC can do whatever it wants and we can either accept it or ignore it.
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His logic seems to make sense to me. If those are the rules for the WBC. It might be wrong but hey the WBC can do whatever it wants and we can either accept it or ignore it.
I've heard the wbc referred to as the We Be Collecting belt. And they are.
Bradley don't need this thing to be qualify as Champion....and btw it didn't do a whole helluva lot for his marketability either. Tim should shine the belt up, hand it to El Heffe Suliaman, and tell him to turn it sideways and shove it up his ass!
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Fuck the WBC! I'm sick of their nonsense, it is pointless and makes a mockery of the sport.
Worthless Braindead Cunts = WBC.
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CommunistKevin
His logic seems to make sense to me. If those are the rules for the WBC. It might be wrong but hey the WBC can do whatever it wants and we can either accept it or ignore it.
I vote we ignore it. ;)
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VictorCharlie
Bilbo will be in here a minute to tell us how great this and the WBC are for the sport of boxing, and yeah they are non-profit b/c the alphabets are what is keeping boxers from indentured servitude.
Actually this is standard procedure in all combat sports when a champion is inactive.
When Brock Lesnar in the UFC got ill Shane Carwin fought Frank Mir for the Interim Heavyweight belt and was presented with it in the cage after his win. Then Brock came in with his belt and they had a stare down. Standard practice, all according to the rules and regulations.
The point is that the title should always remain current, active and being fought for. If a champion can't or won't fight the belt goes up for grabs and in many cases the champion gets a belt and special status to ensure he's first in line to fight for it again. It's entirely normal.
If it wasnt someone could become champ and just defend it once a year or less. The WBC speculate 3 defences a year which is reasonable. Manchester United can't win the FA cup and then hold onto it the following season by not taking part. You can't keep a Grand Slam by not defending it in tennis either.
You people just rant and rave about nothing.
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VictorCharlie
Bilbo will be in here a minute to tell us how great this and the WBC are for the sport of boxing, and yeah they are non-profit b/c the alphabets are what is keeping boxers from indentured servitude.
Actually this is standard procedure in all combat sports when a champion is inactive.
When Brock Lesnar in the UFC got ill Shane Carwin fought Frank Mir for the Interim Heavyweight belt and was presented with it in the cage after his win. Then Brock came in with his belt and they had a stare down. Standard practice, all according to the rules and regulations.
The point is that the title is always active and being fought for. If a champion can't or won't fight the belt goes up for grabs and in many cases the champion gets a belt to ensure he's first in line to fight for it again. It's entirely normal.
LEsnar got "strip" because he would be away for the ring for medical reasons and for a VERY long time. Actually, he was supposed to be out for even longer than he really was, bless his good doctors. They even thought that his career had good chances to be off forever, hence why they ha to relinquish his belt to somebody else. Bradley, it's alll another case. Bradley boxed 7 months ago, which is hardly inactive in the world of boxing where people fight most of the time 2, let along 3 times per 12 months period. The only reason Sulaiman is doing it is to get one more fight, maybe 2 more times where he can sanction somebody to get cash off him.
Emeritus champion, Diamond belt champion, Super champion and now champion in recess, where does this nonsense stops? I am still waiting for the super diamond's champion belt where you have to beat the guy who has the wba, wbo, ibf and then beat the guy who is super champion in order to get it. for very friendly fees, of course.
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VictorCharlie
Bilbo will be in here a minute to tell us how great this and the WBC are for the sport of boxing, and yeah they are non-profit b/c the alphabets are what is keeping boxers from indentured servitude.
Actually this is standard procedure in all combat sports when a champion is inactive.
When Brock Lesnar in the UFC got ill Shane Carwin fought Frank Mir for the Interim Heavyweight belt and was presented with it in the cage after his win. Then Brock came in with his belt and they had a stare down. Standard practice, all according to the rules and regulations.
The point is that the title is always active and being fought for. If a champion can't or won't fight the belt goes up for grabs and in many cases the champion gets a belt to ensure he's first in line to fight for it again. It's entirely normal.
LEsnar got "strip" because he would be away for the ring for medical reasons and for a VERY long time. Actually, he was supposed to be out for even longer than he really was, bless his good doctors. They even thought that his career had good chances to be off forever, hence why they ha to relinquish his belt to somebody else. Bradley, it's alll another case. Bradley boxed 7 months ago, which is hardly inactive in the world of boxing where people fight most of the time 2, let along 3 times per 12 months period.
The only reason Sulaiman is doing it is to get one more fight, maybe 2 more times where he can sanction somebody to get cash off him.
Emeritus champion, Diamond belt champion, Super champion and now champion in recess, where does this nonsense stops? I am still waiting for the super diamond's champion belt where you have to beat the guy who has the wba, wbo, ibf and then beat the guy who is super champion in order to get it. for very friendly fees, of course.
They are a sanctioning body, they sanction world title fights. That's what the organisation exists to do. If a fighter can't or won't fight it goes on without them. If Tiger Woods gets injured and can't defend a major they don't postpone it until he's better, it goes on without him.
Of course Sulaiman wants a title fight to generate cash, they are a business and their business is world title fights. As I said, it's entirely normal, standard procedure in all combat sports.
If it wasn't some fighters would hardly ever defend their titles. It's only been seven months but he has no fight planned so won't be fighting at least until October, maybe the end of the year. In the meantime they want to hold the second title fight of the year in that weight class, according to their standard terms and conditions.
Bradley is being looked after though, he gets a temporary recess status and will be be first in line to fight the winner.
In the meantime, whilst he's doing nothing and therefor providing nothing for the fans the WBC are giving us an excellent matchup between Eric Morales and Mathhyse. Personally I'm pumped for this fight, going to be a barnburner. Well done WBC.
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Meh, don't really disagree with Bilbo on this, especially if the accounts of Bradley basically pricing himself out of a Khan fight are true. Its trendy to rag on the alphabet gangs of course and often with good reason, but inactive champions certainly hurt the sport more. I like Bradley enough but he doesn`t have superstar ability and basically needs to fight more often if he wants to preserve the things he does have going for him.
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Meh, don't really disagree with Bilbo on this, especially if the accounts of Bradley basically pricing himself out of a Khan fight are true. Its trendy to rag on the alphabet gangs of course and often with good reason, but inactive champions certainly hurt the sport more. I like Bradley enough but he doesn`t have superstar ability and basically needs to fight more often if he wants to preserve the things he does have going for him.
I don't understand what people are whining about half the time mate, they are never happy. No opponent is good enough, no belt is credible enough blah blah.
We have two options.
1)Bradley keeps the title, takes the year off and there is no WBC title fight this summer/autumn.
2) As he refused to defend his belt the WBC move on and match two of the most exciting fighters in the division in what will likely be a great slugfest. Then Bradley is given the right as 'champion in recess' to fight the winner and get his belt back.
So we get a nice title fight between two exciting stars, the WBC make some money, and Bradley gets to win his belt back when he decides to fight again.
Sounds like simple common sense to me.
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Yea good point. Im sure Bradley himself didnt object to this, but leave it to everyone else to scream about it. Long as he doesnt seem to want to fight Khan or anyone else why not wait it out for a much easier payday. I figure people just dont really think about the way it will actually affect the involved fighters. Bradley knows he`ll never be a huge star and so his next couple of paydays will likely dictate the rest of his life financially, why the hell wouldnt he want a chance to win back his title from an ancient Morales or a crude puncher instead of putting all his chips in against Khan who is going to be around for a while.
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I don't care if they strip him. Its the comical recess bit that is absurd.
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VictorCharlie
I don't care if they strip him. Its the comical recess bit that is absurd.
It's just a way of ensuring he gets the first shot at the champion, he is the recognised opponent they must face which is fair enough.
They deal in belts the way a lawyer might deal with wills and certificates. He now has an official status as challenger on account of his recess status. It's no different from them signing a certificate really, they just do it with blets because that's the currency they deal in. The UFC does it, all combat sport organisations do it. It's really no biggie.
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The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
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The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
Now you are moaning about a fight that hasn't even been arranged yet :rolleyes:
You people are unbelievable.
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Master
The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
What are you whinging about? Amir Khan is somehow getting the WBC to strip Bradley so he can avoid fighting him, even though he offered a 50-50 split on everything when Bradley had the belt?
That has to be the stupidest thing you've ever posted.
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Bilbo has become the defender of the alphabet belts!
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Master
The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
What are you whinging about? Amir Khan is somehow getting the WBC to strip Bradley so he can avoid fighting him, even though he offered a 50-50 split on everything when Bradley had the belt?
That has to be the stupidest thing you've ever posted.
No doubt Amir wants the fight but Bradley wants to leave his promoter and is getting sued in the process by him. Bradley should not be stripped or lose his status as the best at the weight.
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Master
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Master
The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
What are you whinging about? Amir Khan is somehow getting the WBC to strip Bradley so he can avoid fighting him, even though he offered a 50-50 split on everything when Bradley had the belt?
That has to be the stupidest thing you've ever posted.
No doubt Amir wants the fight but Bradley wants to leave his promoter and is getting sued in the process by him. Bradley should not be stripped or lose his status as the best at the weight.
Bradley was offered a one fight extension with Shaw in order that Shaw could promote the Khan fight & then Bradley would have been a free agent. I agree Bradley should not be stripped, but if he continues to not fight, then Khan should rightfully take over as the best at the weight. In 2010 & 2011, Bradley has fought just twice against Abregu (at 147) & Alexander, the latter of which was a dull not particularly defining win. In that same time, Khan has fought Malignaggi, Maidana, McCloskey & Judah, all of whom were ranked in the top 10 at 140.
But, ignoring all that, insinuating that Amir Khan has enough control of the WBC that he's had Tim Bradley stripped of the title is the stupidest thing you've ever posted. Well, apart from a thread I heard you posted yesterday ;)
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My thread that you mentioned should be treated like Rocky 5, it never happened nor should anyone remember it.
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Master
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Master
The reality is that Khan will now fight for WBC strap against Morales or who ever beats him and move to 147lb welterweight without fighting Bradley who really is the best fighter at the weight. That is wrong and perverse, if the WBC are a not for profit making organisation they should not grant them the title but next leading contender to fight Bradley. Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap. Bradley is the best fighter at the weight and he can only lose that in the ring or inactivity which must be longer than a year at least.
What are you whinging about? Amir Khan is somehow getting the WBC to strip Bradley so he can avoid fighting him, even though he offered a 50-50 split on everything when Bradley had the belt?
That has to be the stupidest thing you've ever posted.
No doubt Amir wants the fight but Bradley wants to leave his promoter and is getting sued in the process by him. Bradley should not be stripped or lose his status as the best at the weight.
Bradley was offered a one fight extension with Shaw in order that Shaw could promote the Khan fight & then Bradley would have been a free agent. I agree Bradley should not be stripped, but if he continues to not fight, then Khan should rightfully take over as the best at the weight. In 2010 & 2011, Bradley has fought just twice against Abregu (at 147) & Alexander, the latter of which was a dull not particularly defining win. In that same time, Khan has fought Malignaggi, Maidana, McCloskey & Judah, all of whom were ranked in the top 10 at 140.
But, ignoring all that, insinuating that Amir Khan has enough control of the WBC that he's had Tim Bradley stripped of the title is the stupidest thing you've ever posted. Well, apart from a thread I heard you posted yesterday ;)
You are twisting my words, the WBC want a Mexican champion creating a legacy and more money with Amir as is in the first defence.
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You are twisting my words, the WBC want a Mexican champion creating a legacy and more money with Amir as is in the first defence
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Master
Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap..
Your own words. You twisted them all on your own. Read that & tell me it's not someone saying that Amir Khan is forcing the WBC to strip their champion for him.
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Master
You are twisting my words, the WBC want a Mexican champion creating a legacy and more money with Amir as is in the first defence
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Master
Just because it does not fit with Amir’s time table he forces the WBC to strip Bradley just so he can get another strap..
Your own words. You twisted them all on your own. Read that & tell me it's not someone saying that Amir Khan is forcing the WBC to strip their champion for him.
You should be a lawyer. :)
