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Strength Training your Thoughts.
Oh,Metal, Machines, or other Forms out There of attaining Strength Mobility
I will go with the barbels. Abaut the program on my level the simplest possible! Three days a week almost one and the same. Nothing fance only basic exercises. Some explosive movements are must. If it´s going to be specific for boxing i will reduce the squats and up the deadlifts, cleans, rolls, chin ups, bench with narrower hand possition and standing sholder presses. Some work for the obliques and neck will be nice addition.
Hi Scrapper.
Right now I'm still loving the kettlebells. It's explosive/dynamic and anaerobic, depending on how you breakup your sets.
I think a couple of the guys on here use KB's in their training. Hopefully they can say how it fits in with their training.
I use them too, but i can´t incorporate them in my strenght training. My hamstrings can´t take the punishment...
in what way, flexibility?Quote:
Originally Posted by nikola_ganchev
Thats interesting, something Im coming on too ;D
get them swinging a KB on a wobble board;D
Nikola, do you think theres a connection between the two seperate exercise routines one static the other having mobility.
Missy done some of that ;D
@Howlin Mad Missy
It´s not the felxebility. If you start training slow and using the right loading patern your muscle will stretch to where you want them in 2 3 weeks... Under beating i mean that i overtrain them.
@Scrap
For me the most obvious connection is that both of them use the same mechanikal structures. Here i mean that the both treining programs don´t interact directly. The problem comes with the recovery. The kettlebells will increase the recovery time of the barbel training.
I can say about the neurological side of it, that they are both really demanding and this must not be over looked. One can "burn out" much quicker...
Know where youre coming from Nikola, especially the Hamstring Bit, any ideas why this happens. Its something Ive talked about recently with people in the Feild, as regards static machines and weights, Kettlebells are different, although weights. My issue is muscle and Tendon aclimatising to movement when the major Tendons on Machines are not used as they should be.
Im just guesing, but something like this looks logical for me. The main reason we are build that way is to run and the hamstrings and gluts are the most important muscles for the forward propulsion. This means they both try to pull back and up the leg. In this movement there is no prestreching involved. With the weights we try to hoist something. This means that when we erect the leg our torso will elevate. It´s like
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I don´t know if it was ment for the hamstring to be used under such loads at most stretch position...
I don´t know any machine which simulates something natural...
Most of the machines ive ever seen, seen a few. dont engage the TFL as, it should be applied, everything starts in a Heel down position, which is the biomechanical brake.
Is there a way to incorporate this in barbel training?
Have not come across anything safe as regarding it Nikola. Ive been the route of I call the weight thing for Strength. I found it unsuccesfull as regards sporting motion, movement if you like. I think there are better ways to spend time on sports strength and conditioning. Funny talking to a guy, the conditioning guy today who is the Strength and conditioning man , for one of the major Football clubs in England. He told me they had got rid of all there weight machines, stopped using them because of the same reason. Things seem to be changing, there seems to have grown out of the 60s, where people selling the machines with the hard sell that their machines will make men Supermen by using their product a fact, but the bottom line was it was all Bollocks ;D. Theres an old saying, train smart, Ive found you have not got to be smart to use Machines. Plus it wont make the Body smart.
These damn forums, just written a long post but i wiped it off before i posted it lol, oh well. This is an interesting topic and quite a funny coincidence as recently ive been thinking of more ways to possibly activate the TFL with some old school movements and as little equipment as possible because im limited with what i have down here as you know ;D ive been looking at tweaking and reworking the basic movements of the sissy squat with help of some elastic here and there but im not sure if it'll activate the TFL as good as some of the stuff you showed me that im currently doing, however i need more variation to switch things up a bit, was thinking of coming down next friday so well talk about it then if your not busy ;D
Taking it a step further, the Bodys Electric Magnetic Field with its pathways intigrating Feel is a Big player, I feel in the problem with weights. I would like Andres take on this, as He is the residant expert on these matters, as regards Heart, Brain connections.
I too would like to hear what andre thinks on this one, it has always seemed to me just a bit too simple to assume that lifting weights could carry over to combat functional strength, perhaps im wrong. The added weight as a result from that type of training may be useful in some forms of combat but it also has its costs, i feel apart from that the benefits of an old fashioned weight lifting regime remain to be seen.
it seems to me that the human body just isnt that simple at all, the 'enviroments' that we create to put our bodys through during training just arent that simple, nor are the adaptions our bodys make to evolve to that enviroment. If it was all that simple i believe we just couldnt be here today.
Fighting is such a large combination of seperate skills, there could be countless amounts of seperate skills required during fighting who knows, i personally believe even science now just cant explain them all yet. to think that you can ignore this fact and hit the gym 2 times a week with such a primative regime and have the time youve spent doing that being one of the most functional things you could have done with that time to supplement your boxing training as a fighter then i think youve just got it all wrong. But then again thats just my opinion, upset people as it may. ;D
Sorry I really dont know what to think in regards to how to fuse everything together.
But lineal training and lineal thoughts along lineal timelines are not the real way. They are a way to reach a point along a line.
Fact is sub atomically and atomically we are made of only spheres and these spheres all spin as does the world as does the galaxy. If they cease to spin you are sick if they spin the opposite way other things are being allowed to occur and its only you who are allowing it, no one else.
I think if you can get 100% emotionally involved in what you are doing before you mentally then physically do it,you will get closer to having all your systems free fire ing.
In martial arts many strive for physical perfection as many other humans do in all sorts of pursuits, but once its achieved,you hit a wall and its very sickening until the real lesson of stripping it all back to bare bones begins and you search behind what created the art and are back into raw feelings thought and words. There is only electric energies and magnetic energies nothing else. If you aim for something only up one route then eventually you have to balance it out with the opposite, or hit the wall.
In all honesty if you lose the love for what you do and what you have accomplished, you lose the love you have for yourself and maybe for others too if you allow it to go on.
I think its impossible to teach anyone a set path in complete balance or harmony, because they have to want to walk it themselves in order to find their own balance.
But the people who love with all their heart what they do, do it with much less effort and its that heart-mind link that creates the counter balancing spin that gives us a natural; and they love themselves (in a non ego way) because they are what they do so its self generating.
A different exercise is to hold your arms out and spin like a twirling dervish they generally go clockwise, quite fast, then stop and hold your ground as the world flys around you. 21 spins maximum.3 times a day maximum. Eventually once your system balances out and your centers are up to speed its easy. Quite sickening to start with though.
I like anti clockwise these days :-\ but im weird,as you well know.
Maybe the question is: "How can we help people love what they are doing so that their hearts minds and bodies link as one and fire unobstructed?"
Very intresting post andre, ive been saying this myself quite a lot for the past year or so, the key seems to be to find a passion and feed the fire, in terms of development in humans in any area this rule seems to be true. I have no idea how it all works and i dont think i ever will but i felt i knew this to be true from my own experiences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Im of that opinion, but ive been doing something, which i find interesting. Plus ive still got a lot of reading to do on Science fact, plus a few things that are not ;D.I find the connection between Heart and Head, plus the theory that the Heart signals the Head more than the other way round, brought on by the Human Electromagnetic Field, through Feel, its interesting:confused:
Light body.
Light Body, lost me there mate. Talking conciousness and living matter and its interpretation of Feel, as regards metal weights ;D and movement.
It is part of the whole consciousness.
Its the part science cant measure. Our heart thinks in a way the brain doesnt and behind those links and pre thoughts exist feeling/knowing and that is conscious awareness within in every cell and surrounding them too. That same awareness can be exercised and expanded to exist outside of the cells if you want. Want is also part of the bigger picture. So too is Dna Rna memories from ancestors and other past events as well. It effects consciousness and living matter.
With you now ;D, totally agree. I think that something ive been working with is teaching me about re/routing aspects of conciousness, ill pm you later.
Wow mate: re awakening the body memory and opening up old blocked electrical pathways so their consciousness regains its control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
Do you remember that tapping on the head and heart thing that body talk and a few kinesiology people use, that I once mentioned?
If you do that after helping someone, it tells their heart memory to remember the new pattern by linking it into all the brain cortex es tot he area you have been working on. That way there is no regression between each session.
Sorry; Im away from boxing again here, but I can see how this will all link up through all of your great work in each area, specially the kids.
done that as part of kundalini yoga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
also done this for several minutes you done feel kinda groovey afterwards;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK3mk...eature=related
Just watched that, Terrible for Balance and coardination I think.
Yeah your probably right,But I dont think it was used for training the physical body ,it was used to get your electrical energy centers or Chakra centers spinning back up at the correct rate. Its a very ancient practice,originally from Tibet area I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
Not very good for Hip alinement going one way.
My thoughts on 'strenght', as it applies to boxing, have a basis in "the proper amount applied in the proper way at the proper time." I think that there is too much emphasis put on being 'strong' physically, not enough on being strong mentally. After all, you don't need to press the rival over your head, just hit him while making him miss you.
I think that a great deal of that is conveyed mentally. Certainly, your body needs to be fit, to go the distance required at the pace required, but that starts in the mind. Because you'll never make the effort to be fit in body if your head isn't right. I've never believed in weights- bulk you up too much, to a weight class beyond your other attributes- and have always favored flexibility and leverage. Oddly, everybody I've worked with is considered strong inside and a very hard puncher. Properly applied force.
When I'm teaching somebody, I focus a lot on where you put your weight: I think we can all agree that an individual that can put his weight in one place and focus it is a very strong man indeed, whether or not he can bench press a ton. I try to focus their mind on their capabilities, and the fact that I expand those capabilities- not for ego reasons but because, at some point, they may very well need to believe in me when it is hard to belive in themselves. (This is especially true when working with young kids).
I don't like jumping rope as a warm up exercise because it is brain dead and repititious. Shadow boxing is much better because it engages the mind, and mental strength is the foundation. Then there is me, constantly over the shoulder, because you have to know what you are thinking, and what you are trying to accomplish, as you shadow box, hit the bags, and so on. When you build the mind, the body has to follow, because then you know what you are trying to do and can prepare accordingly.
Personally, I think strength is overrated. Take Saddler-Pep...Saddler was able to over power and manhandle Pep inside, thus he beat him. But only because he made Pep lose his mental strength and get ouit of his game; in the fight where Pep kept his cool, he won.. (Of course, this gets back to properly applied force and Pep couldn't/didn't punch much...)
Great post by Greys, something ive been involved with recently, has led me down some interesting avenues. How important the Heart is in the greater realms of things regarding Feel and living tissue involving as regards the Human Electric Magnetic Field, its the missing link, I feel in all of what we do, or are trying to do when looking for Sports Strength in movement.
Do you think the electrical thought energies and magnetic feeling heart energies are one of the same or separate? Im not 100% certain but I think we can make it either depending on base intention.
Muscle memory maybe dictated more by the heart / recorded history memory more by electric brain waves.
I think its easier to link one side of the brain to one type of memory, the other side to the other kind of memory, it could be a vague link from what it once was because the pituitary is shrunk due to our intentions and change in evolutionary needs.
Regarding memory Im pretty sure there is one more which would make 3 available:
dna /rna ancestor recorded memory that can be got at via both hemispheres firing simultaneously with the pituitary in action as well. When you think about it, matter and thought are all spheres in coils of waves that go inward and outward one spinning one way the other the other.
Andre, without the Heart theres nothing, I think it creates everything. All muscle Feel goes through it. Heart comunicates to the Brain, more than the other way round. Heart is the Matrix.
I agree mate it is not just a big muscle pump as pathology would have us believe.
And yet people can over rule it and even put their own heart under stress and attack through their mind.
I do you know you are not coming from that angle though.
I am in relation to Feel it governs all concoiusness of History thats stored, memory of do and why ;D.
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
You left off how :). Everything is stored in there ;). But as you know Im coming off a different track than feel, im talking ancestor memory.
Interesting Ancestors,all though i agree, reading stuff that contradicts the theory interesting.