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Just curious how everyone feels about Obama and/or the job he's doing as the American President. Views from those of you living in other countries would be appreciated as well, i'd like to hear how he's perceived by Saddo's members living in other nations.
Personally I have mixed feelings about Obama and the job he's doing, and really hope he gets voted out of office in 2012.
He reminds me of Jimmy Carter in some ways.
A 1 term president? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Carter was a terrible president, if that's what you mean.
Well, most Americans seem to feel Carter was a horrible President, but under different circumstances I think he would have been fantastic (but remember that I'm a godless communist :p).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axA 1 term president? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Carter was a terrible president, if that's what you mean.
He reminds me of Carter in that he's a very liberal President (something of a rarity in a right-center country like the States) who tried to enact some extremely progressive things but who inherited a terrible economy that he couldn't recover from. They differ in a lot of ways too of course - Obama seems to try to tell Americans who he thinks they want to hear, while Carter flat out told them they needed to change their way of life (and was subsequently crushed by Reagan) - but I think they will both be viewed (rightly or wrongly, and IMO it's wrongly) as one-term failures and, more interesting to me, aberrations in a political system that tends to lean to the right more often that it does the left.
Obama is a horrible, horrible President and a coward of a human being. Not one single person has been prosectuted for the financial meltdown and he brushes the war in Iraq under the carpet thus excusing war criminals. He has bailed out Wall Street and is now in the process of transfering the massive fallout upon the middle class and poor in the name of austerity. He has extended the period duing which the rich pay less than their own fair share of the tax burden and he failed to introduce a basic healthcare free at the point of use which IMO is a basic human right. He expanded the war in Afghanistan, he refuses to close Guantanamo.
In a nutshell I think Obama is a complete cunt.
Shame they banned cross burnings. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
A puppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
A politician just like every other politician, paid for tag lines.
Exactly, Doesnt matter who ya put in charge of the country they will still fuck it up, piss people off and make a mockery of all the pre-election promises.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
You carnt please all the people all the time, unfortunatley he seems to only please the rich and piss off the people who put him into power in the first place.
No different to what happens in the UK really.
Whats going on, you have to watch this. Nothing to do with ufos, you will never feel the same, True History. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO4-L...0AF949D3911C54
Totally, a mouthpiece of the elite and the financial sector. An absolute sell out when it comes to representing the man on the street.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreA puppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
I hope Obama wins another 2 terms, he is doing his best.
That would be some achievement ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I have no interest in politics as in England the majority of politicians are upper class arseholes bang out of touch with the common man. Look at the expenses scandal on top of their ridiculously high wages and benefits and tell me they aren't all selfish greedy bastards lining their own pockets while the country goes down the shitter. I have never voted and i never will, whoever is in power it's all money, money, money it's a reason i will be leaving the army in 12 months as i refuse to risk my life for a government who continually lie and shit all over the true hard workers of the nation, the people who graft long hours day in day out just to provide a stable life for their family while not being able to afford certain luxuries that many underserving have become accustomed to.
To be honest i don't see Obama being crucified in the media over here but that might be because i am reading the wrong papers or i'm completely blind to it.
Obama is our Affirmative Action President, this is what the people get when the media don't do their jobs. Difficult questions were not asked of him to begin with, he was given a free pass and why? His skin color and being a liberal?!? Herman Cain has not been given the same pass, Alan Keyes wasn't given the same pass! Obama is totally unqualified, Biden is even worse!
I don't care who runs against Obama, I'm voting for them!
As bad as W was Barry is even worse!
Excellent: The first few vids are history: the real stuff starts around here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flWqyp-lw1U&NR=1 in regards to how they did it and still do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
Ill watch the rest later, I recognize some of those family names and links mentioned that are also the enemy of the true Jesus.
We are mostly sheeple under rule. Controlled from within sectors that we allow to rule over us. This power over the masses extends also through the false Jesus and the Roman influence through the false apostle Paul (who never met Jesus). Their control is through fear and false placments of men into power over nations of believers in their twisted scriptures and overriding will to control others at others expense.
We dont know Half of it, well I didnt ;D
They know they are on borrowed time and they'll take as a many with them as they can get.
I love how Miles and I think the president has not done a good job for completely different reasons. I don't think he is a bad guy but I think he has not shown strong leadership on key issues....and he pretty much is the exact opposite of my policy beliefs across the board. Hopefully he is out and Ron Paul is in.
Even though he's about as far away from me as he can be on the political spectrum, I'd love to see Ron Paul somehow become President. I think he has the potential to do a lot of good things for America.Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorCharlie
He is that good he should be made permanent president of the USA. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HThat would be some achievement ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
MAybe in some ways he seems more caring and approachable but I think you need to go visit the place and see the growing rift between the rich and poor theres a big space in middle mate and its growing fast, the main cities are clean of cigarette butts and any scrap food because kids swoop on them. Theres thousands living in cardboard boxes up against the sides of buildings and in wrecks of homes and derelict buildings and out of cars. Who is his Government exactly looking after? Those who can keep their heads above water financially and pay tax dollars to support their world stance is the real answer. The rest of the people are a burden now and can go down the slow path of diminished health and support to death for all they care. (actually that option will become preferable to their heartless dollar and power controlled minds soon enough).Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is that good he should be made permanent president of the USA. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HThat would be some achievement ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Funny how the people making the Rules, should have been shot for treason many years ago and there money saved them ;D
That describes America and the American Dream, has this not been always the way?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreMAybe in some ways he seems more caring and approachable but I think you need to go visit the place and see the growing rift between the rich and poor theres a big space in middle mate and its growing fast, the main cities are clean of cigarette butts and any scrap food because kids swoop on them. Theres thousands living in cardboard boxes up against the sides of buildings and in wrecks of homes and derelict buildings and out of cars. Who is his Government exactly looking after? Those who can keep their heads above water financially and pay tax dollars to support their world stance is the real answer. The rest of the people are a burden now and can go down the slow path of diminished health and support to death for all they care. (actually that option will become preferable to their heartless dollar and power controlled minds soon enough).Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is that good he should be made permanent president of the USA. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HThat would be some achievement ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
MSNBC has hired Al Sharpton as a host??? What the hell man! Why even have a channel if you're just going to put commies, ugly dykes, and race baiters in every show?
That being said, this "jobs" speech is more of a "JOB" speech, namely Obama's. Ol' Barry has a loooong road ahead of him. Why, may I ask are we STILL talking about "shovel ready jobs" we've tried that, it didn't work try something different!
Lull them in and once they are asleep....."Raise taxes on rich people, they actually want me to do it!"
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Joe Biden is a moron, Hillary Clinton looks monstrous, and Michelle Obama looks like a frog....a very unhappy frog
Still would :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Is there any legally eligible woman that you would not do?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HStill would :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Election is just a popularity contest. You shouldn't have to be popular to know what's best for your people.
You should have to appeal to the masses and get their mandate otherwise you have a dictatorship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
Hello fellas, how've all been. Just back for a little break.
I don't understand why the Americans are blaming poor Obama for not being able to fix the economic mess created by the Republicans, which is unprecendent in the history, and I meant unprecedent in bold letters and italics. Many Americans have been brainwashed by Tea Party, which is quickly turning out to be nothing but a radical, rabble-rousing, not-so-secret GOP front. I just hope Obama loses next time and let the Reps clean the mess they'd made and see if they can do a better job. I'm pretty sure they won't and so let them get all the blame for what is rightly theirs.;D
And what's this I've been hearing these days, everyone having their own solutions to the economic problems; from politicians, economists to ordinary folks. What makes it worse is that nobody seems to be agreeing with anyone else. Americans have to get their acts together quick or their economic problem will turn worse.
ps. Peace, Republican fans, nothing personal.;)
Not really sure how you can place the economic downturn squarely on the Republicans. While it is true that during the 8 years of the Bush administration spending was rampant the current administration hasn't exactly been counting their pennies either. The deregulation of the financial sector has a lot of players but the repealing of Glass/Steagal (Clinton administration) is laregly what allowed the derivatives market to go off the tracks. Combine that with FANNIE and FREDDIE (Democrat supported gov't run mortage companies) and it doesn't take a genius to see that many of past and present democratic leaders and policies had just as much to do with the crash as Republican deregulation. The truth is neither party wanted to be the one that put the breaks on the ever growing housing bubble even though experts to include Congressman Ron Paul predicted the whole thing. What the President has not done is realized that ever growing and expansive gov't and spending (that both parties have gladly taken part in) is the problem and not the solution. His policies and plans are retreads of Keynsian economics which have clearly not worked. Considering he came to office proclaiming it would not be business as usual I am not surprised that people are unhappy with his performance. Lastly, inregards to the "racist" Tea Party; I am not sure how a nebulous group of people who believe in fiscal responsibility, liberty and having our gov't follow the rules layed out in the Constitution get painted as racists. Sure you can find some pictures of sign toting bigots at rallys but for one you don't have to look very hard to find equally disgusting people in the democratic party or any of the organizations that typically associate with the party but this does not define the party or its supporters. The labeling of people as racists is a very typical last ditch effort when a politcal organization no longer has a substantive response and is losing the logical argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
Your opinion is well-taken, buddy but I have to make just one correction. I never said racist, I said radical and there's a whole lot difference in meaning between the two. Hope that clears it up. Cool, pal. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorCharlieNot really sure how you can place the economic downturn squarely on the Republicans. While it is true that during the 8 years of the Bush administration spending was rampant the current administration hasn't exactly been counting their pennies either. The deregulation of the financial sector has a lot of players but the repealing of Glass/Steagal (Clinton administration) is laregly what allowed the derivatives market to go off the tracks. Combine that with FANNIE and FREDDIE (Democrat supported gov't run mortage companies) and it doesn't take a genius to see that many of past and present democratic leaders and policies had just as much to do with the crash as Republican deregulation. The truth is neither party wanted to be the one that put the breaks on the ever growing housing bubble even though experts to include Congressman Ron Paul predicted the whole thing. What the President has not done is realized that ever growing and expansive gov't and spending (that both parties have gladly taken part in) is the problem and not the solution. His policies and plans are retreads of Keynsian economics which have clearly not worked. Considering he came to office proclaiming it would not be business as usual I am not surprised that people are unhappy with his performance. Lastly, inregards to the "racist" Tea Party; I am not sure how a nebulous group of people who believe in fiscal responsibility, liberty and having our gov't follow the rules layed out in the Constitution get painted as racists. Sure you can find some pictures of sign toting bigots at rallys but for one you don't have to look very hard to find equally disgusting people in the democratic party or any of the organizations that typically associate with the party but this does not define the party or its supporters. The labeling of people as racists is a very typical last ditch effort when a politcal organization no longer has a substantive response and is losing the logical argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
Obama is catching hell because although he is face to face with adversity he is not being a leader....example, his "Jobs Bill", we, the American people were told "When I get back from vacation at Martha's Vineyard, I will present a new jobs bill" ...#1 Why wait and #2 after hearing the speech what exactly is so new about it? Its more infrastructure spending and its a ploy to raise taxes to continue the outrageous spending and what's even worse is in spite of the economy being on its knees Obama and the liberals forced us an Obamacare enema and it is really going to fuck things up for the average tax payer.
But you just go right ahead and blame the Republicans and Tea Party people.
The Tea Party just want the government out of their houses and to spend money responsibly....how is that bad or wrong or "radical"?
Yeah that's true. It's a shame that 'dictatorship' attracts one type of mindset and 'democracy' attracts another... Personally, I think 'Peace' is an ideal which in its current interruperatation, is a little overrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou should have to appeal to the masses and get their mandate otherwise you have a dictatorship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
So you did...my apologies but if fiscal responsibility, freedom, liberty and the Constitution are "radical" then the entire nation needs more of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfanYour opinion is well-taken, buddy but I have to make just one correction. I never said racist, I said radical and there's a whole lot difference in meaning between the two. Hope that clears it up. Cool, pal. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorCharlieNot really sure how you can place the economic downturn squarely on the Republicans. While it is true that during the 8 years of the Bush administration spending was rampant the current administration hasn't exactly been counting their pennies either. The deregulation of the financial sector has a lot of players but the repealing of Glass/Steagal (Clinton administration) is laregly what allowed the derivatives market to go off the tracks. Combine that with FANNIE and FREDDIE (Democrat supported gov't run mortage companies) and it doesn't take a genius to see that many of past and present democratic leaders and policies had just as much to do with the crash as Republican deregulation. The truth is neither party wanted to be the one that put the breaks on the ever growing housing bubble even though experts to include Congressman Ron Paul predicted the whole thing. What the President has not done is realized that ever growing and expansive gov't and spending (that both parties have gladly taken part in) is the problem and not the solution. His policies and plans are retreads of Keynsian economics which have clearly not worked. Considering he came to office proclaiming it would not be business as usual I am not surprised that people are unhappy with his performance. Lastly, inregards to the "racist" Tea Party; I am not sure how a nebulous group of people who believe in fiscal responsibility, liberty and having our gov't follow the rules layed out in the Constitution get painted as racists. Sure you can find some pictures of sign toting bigots at rallys but for one you don't have to look very hard to find equally disgusting people in the democratic party or any of the organizations that typically associate with the party but this does not define the party or its supporters. The labeling of people as racists is a very typical last ditch effort when a politcal organization no longer has a substantive response and is losing the logical argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfan
You probably think the same thing about democracy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel BoogustusYeah that's true. It's a shame that 'dictatorship' attracts one type of mindset and 'democracy' attracts another... Personally, I think 'Peace' is an ideal which in its current interpretation, is a little overrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou should have to appeal to the masses and get their mandate otherwise you have a dictatorship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
Maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou probably think the same thing about democracy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel BoogustusYeah that's true. It's a shame that 'dictatorship' attracts one type of mindset and 'democracy' attracts another... Personally, I think 'Peace' is an ideal which in its current interpretation, is a little overrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou should have to appeal to the masses and get their mandate otherwise you have a dictatorship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus