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    Election is just a popularity contest. You shouldn't have to be popular to know what's best for your people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Election is just a popularity contest. You shouldn't have to be popular to know what's best for your people.
    You should have to appeal to the masses and get their mandate otherwise you have a dictatorship.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Hello fellas, how've all been. Just back for a little break.

    I don't understand why the Americans are blaming poor Obama for not being able to fix the economic mess created by the Republicans, which is unprecendent in the history, and I meant unprecedent in bold letters and italics. Many Americans have been brainwashed by Tea Party, which is quickly turning out to be nothing but a radical, rabble-rousing, not-so-secret GOP front. I just hope Obama loses next time and let the Reps clean the mess they'd made and see if they can do a better job. I'm pretty sure they won't and so let them get all the blame for what is rightly theirs.

    And what's this I've been hearing these days, everyone having their own solutions to the economic problems; from politicians, economists to ordinary folks. What makes it worse is that nobody seems to be agreeing with anyone else. Americans have to get their acts together quick or their economic problem will turn worse.

    ps. Peace, Republican fans, nothing personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Hello fellas, how've all been. Just back for a little break.

    I don't understand why the Americans are blaming poor Obama for not being able to fix the economic mess created by the Republicans, which is unprecendent in the history, and I meant unprecedent in bold letters and italics. Many Americans have been brainwashed by Tea Party, which is quickly turning out to be nothing but a radical, rabble-rousing, not-so-secret GOP front. I just hope Obama loses next time and let the Reps clean the mess they'd made and see if they can do a better job. I'm pretty sure they won't and so let them get all the blame for what is rightly theirs.

    And what's this I've been hearing these days, everyone having their own solutions to the economic problems; from politicians, economists to ordinary folks. What makes it worse is that nobody seems to be agreeing with anyone else. Americans have to get their acts together quick or their economic problem will turn worse.

    ps. Peace, Republican fans, nothing personal.
    Not really sure how you can place the economic downturn squarely on the Republicans. While it is true that during the 8 years of the Bush administration spending was rampant the current administration hasn't exactly been counting their pennies either. The deregulation of the financial sector has a lot of players but the repealing of Glass/Steagal (Clinton administration) is laregly what allowed the derivatives market to go off the tracks. Combine that with FANNIE and FREDDIE (Democrat supported gov't run mortage companies) and it doesn't take a genius to see that many of past and present democratic leaders and policies had just as much to do with the crash as Republican deregulation. The truth is neither party wanted to be the one that put the breaks on the ever growing housing bubble even though experts to include Congressman Ron Paul predicted the whole thing. What the President has not done is realized that ever growing and expansive gov't and spending (that both parties have gladly taken part in) is the problem and not the solution. His policies and plans are retreads of Keynsian economics which have clearly not worked. Considering he came to office proclaiming it would not be business as usual I am not surprised that people are unhappy with his performance. Lastly, inregards to the "racist" Tea Party; I am not sure how a nebulous group of people who believe in fiscal responsibility, liberty and having our gov't follow the rules layed out in the Constitution get painted as racists. Sure you can find some pictures of sign toting bigots at rallys but for one you don't have to look very hard to find equally disgusting people in the democratic party or any of the organizations that typically associate with the party but this does not define the party or its supporters. The labeling of people as racists is a very typical last ditch effort when a politcal organization no longer has a substantive response and is losing the logical argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorCharlie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Hello fellas, how've all been. Just back for a little break.

    I don't understand why the Americans are blaming poor Obama for not being able to fix the economic mess created by the Republicans, which is unprecendent in the history, and I meant unprecedent in bold letters and italics. Many Americans have been brainwashed by Tea Party, which is quickly turning out to be nothing but a radical, rabble-rousing, not-so-secret GOP front. I just hope Obama loses next time and let the Reps clean the mess they'd made and see if they can do a better job. I'm pretty sure they won't and so let them get all the blame for what is rightly theirs.

    And what's this I've been hearing these days, everyone having their own solutions to the economic problems; from politicians, economists to ordinary folks. What makes it worse is that nobody seems to be agreeing with anyone else. Americans have to get their acts together quick or their economic problem will turn worse.

    ps. Peace, Republican fans, nothing personal.
    Not really sure how you can place the economic downturn squarely on the Republicans. While it is true that during the 8 years of the Bush administration spending was rampant the current administration hasn't exactly been counting their pennies either. The deregulation of the financial sector has a lot of players but the repealing of Glass/Steagal (Clinton administration) is laregly what allowed the derivatives market to go off the tracks. Combine that with FANNIE and FREDDIE (Democrat supported gov't run mortage companies) and it doesn't take a genius to see that many of past and present democratic leaders and policies had just as much to do with the crash as Republican deregulation. The truth is neither party wanted to be the one that put the breaks on the ever growing housing bubble even though experts to include Congressman Ron Paul predicted the whole thing. What the President has not done is realized that ever growing and expansive gov't and spending (that both parties have gladly taken part in) is the problem and not the solution. His policies and plans are retreads of Keynsian economics which have clearly not worked. Considering he came to office proclaiming it would not be business as usual I am not surprised that people are unhappy with his performance. Lastly, inregards to the "racist" Tea Party; I am not sure how a nebulous group of people who believe in fiscal responsibility, liberty and having our gov't follow the rules layed out in the Constitution get painted as racists. Sure you can find some pictures of sign toting bigots at rallys but for one you don't have to look very hard to find equally disgusting people in the democratic party or any of the organizations that typically associate with the party but this does not define the party or its supporters. The labeling of people as racists is a very typical last ditch effort when a politcal organization no longer has a substantive response and is losing the logical argument.
    Your opinion is well-taken, buddy but I have to make just one correction. I never said racist, I said radical and there's a whole lot difference in meaning between the two. Hope that clears it up. Cool, pal.
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    Obama is catching hell because although he is face to face with adversity he is not being a leader....example, his "Jobs Bill", we, the American people were told "When I get back from vacation at Martha's Vineyard, I will present a new jobs bill" ...#1 Why wait and #2 after hearing the speech what exactly is so new about it? Its more infrastructure spending and its a ploy to raise taxes to continue the outrageous spending and what's even worse is in spite of the economy being on its knees Obama and the liberals forced us an Obamacare enema and it is really going to fuck things up for the average tax payer.

    But you just go right ahead and blame the Republicans and Tea Party people.

    The Tea Party just want the government out of their houses and to spend money responsibly....how is that bad or wrong or "radical"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Election is just a popularity contest. You shouldn't have to be popular to know what's best for your people.
    You should have to appeal to the masses and get their mandate otherwise you have a dictatorship.
    Yeah that's true. It's a shame that 'dictatorship' attracts one type of mindset and 'democracy' attracts another... Personally, I think 'Peace' is an ideal which in its current interruperatation, is a little overrated.
    Last edited by Jimanuel Boogustus; 09-15-2011 at 02:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorCharlie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Hello fellas, how've all been. Just back for a little break.

    I don't understand why the Americans are blaming poor Obama for not being able to fix the economic mess created by the Republicans, which is unprecendent in the history, and I meant unprecedent in bold letters and italics. Many Americans have been brainwashed by Tea Party, which is quickly turning out to be nothing but a radical, rabble-rousing, not-so-secret GOP front. I just hope Obama loses next time and let the Reps clean the mess they'd made and see if they can do a better job. I'm pretty sure they won't and so let them get all the blame for what is rightly theirs.

    And what's this I've been hearing these days, everyone having their own solutions to the economic problems; from politicians, economists to ordinary folks. What makes it worse is that nobody seems to be agreeing with anyone else. Americans have to get their acts together quick or their economic problem will turn worse.

    ps. Peace, Republican fans, nothing personal.
    Not really sure how you can place the economic downturn squarely on the Republicans. While it is true that during the 8 years of the Bush administration spending was rampant the current administration hasn't exactly been counting their pennies either. The deregulation of the financial sector has a lot of players but the repealing of Glass/Steagal (Clinton administration) is laregly what allowed the derivatives market to go off the tracks. Combine that with FANNIE and FREDDIE (Democrat supported gov't run mortage companies) and it doesn't take a genius to see that many of past and present democratic leaders and policies had just as much to do with the crash as Republican deregulation. The truth is neither party wanted to be the one that put the breaks on the ever growing housing bubble even though experts to include Congressman Ron Paul predicted the whole thing. What the President has not done is realized that ever growing and expansive gov't and spending (that both parties have gladly taken part in) is the problem and not the solution. His policies and plans are retreads of Keynsian economics which have clearly not worked. Considering he came to office proclaiming it would not be business as usual I am not surprised that people are unhappy with his performance. Lastly, inregards to the "racist" Tea Party; I am not sure how a nebulous group of people who believe in fiscal responsibility, liberty and having our gov't follow the rules layed out in the Constitution get painted as racists. Sure you can find some pictures of sign toting bigots at rallys but for one you don't have to look very hard to find equally disgusting people in the democratic party or any of the organizations that typically associate with the party but this does not define the party or its supporters. The labeling of people as racists is a very typical last ditch effort when a politcal organization no longer has a substantive response and is losing the logical argument.
    Your opinion is well-taken, buddy but I have to make just one correction. I never said racist, I said radical and there's a whole lot difference in meaning between the two. Hope that clears it up. Cool, pal.
    So you did...my apologies but if fiscal responsibility, freedom, liberty and the Constitution are "radical" then the entire nation needs more of it.
    Most bad government has grown out of too much government. Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Election is just a popularity contest. You shouldn't have to be popular to know what's best for your people.
    You should have to appeal to the masses and get their mandate otherwise you have a dictatorship.
    Yeah that's true. It's a shame that 'dictatorship' attracts one type of mindset and 'democracy' attracts another... Personally, I think 'Peace' is an ideal which in its current interpretation, is a little overrated.
    You probably think the same thing about democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Election is just a popularity contest. You shouldn't have to be popular to know what's best for your people.
    You should have to appeal to the masses and get their mandate otherwise you have a dictatorship.
    Yeah that's true. It's a shame that 'dictatorship' attracts one type of mindset and 'democracy' attracts another... Personally, I think 'Peace' is an ideal which in its current interpretation, is a little overrated.
    You probably think the same thing about democracy.
    Maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Obama is a horrible, horrible President and a coward of a human being. Not one single person has been prosectuted for the financial meltdown and he brushes the war in Iraq under the carpet thus excusing war criminals. He has bailed out Wall Street and is now in the process of transfering the massive fallout upon the middle class and poor in the name of austerity. He has extended the period duing which the rich pay less than their own fair share of the tax burden and he failed to introduce a basic healthcare free at the point of use which IMO is a basic human right. He expanded the war in Afghanistan, he refuses to close Guantanamo.

    In a nutshell I think Obama is a complete cunt.

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    Herman Cain & Mitt Romney in 2012!!!

    Here I am rock you like a Herman Cain!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Herman Cain & Mitt Romney in 2012!!!

    Here I am rock you like a Herman Cain!!!
    Who is Herman Cain?

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    Im sick of racial puppetry, sexist choices and movie stars, I think a new one named Biff is in order, that bully from in the shower room in PE class, who would by now have realized the form of his aggression and had a sex change.

    Biffette for President.

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