Starting a new weight loss program today...

UpDayDownDay Diet™ Plan – How to Succeed

The 'Up Day' 'Down Day' diet. I've read the whole book and there are some very interesting medical benefits to this diet, so I am going to give it a go.

Basically it involves, only having 500 calories every other day, and then just eating want you want (within reason) on the alternate days.

Being that my big problem is sustaining a weight loss program for a long period of time, because it's so restrictive, I'm hoping that this will be a good solution, as I will only, in effect, be restricted 50% of the time.

Sounds good on paper, I'll see how it goes.

Anybody familiar with this program?

no but sounds interesting


I could do with shedding 3/4 of a stone myself. Am not fat just my clothes aint fitting like they used to - the two weeks of indulgence in Turkey took its toll


I am usually really good during the week. Dont drink , eat chocolate, gorge food etc....

But Friday at 5pm (ish) i go into binge mode. Beer spirits, takeaway - then same Saturday. Sunday meal at parents with dessert to finish etc....

Then Monday good again :-\

I feel cheated if I dont have at least two takeaways Fri-Sunday :-\

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

no but sounds interesting


I could do with shedding 3/4 of a stone myself. Am not fat just my clothes aint fitting like they used to - the two weeks of indulgence in Turkey took its toll


I am usually really good during the week. Dont drink , eat chocolate, gorge food etc....

But Friday at 5pm (ish) i go into binge mode. Beer spirits, takeaway - then same Saturday. Sunday meal at parents with dessert to finish etc....

Then Monday good again :-\

I feel cheated if I dont have at least two takeaways Fri-Sunday :-\

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I know exactly what you mean mate.

This one sounds good one paper, but I just reckon the 500 cal days will be so tuff, that it may not be sustainable :-\

Gotta do something though, I am in freefall again. Of the 7.5 stone I lost, I have put 5.5 back on :(

look at the positves you ain't put it all back on so less to lose ! ;)

i am no good with calories etc.. so have no idea what 500 covers

500 isnt a lot

i suppose you could have 3 salads in that day and a few drinks of water

A slimfast shake is 202 cals. So you can have 2.5 Slimfasts and nothing else. Or you could count calories, but 500 cals won't give you much food

i know this might be a bit patronising but isnt weight loss about eating less food than you burn?

you can still eat a lot of food and lose weight

preparing your own meals every meal will help reduce the calories, you can eat 3 normal meals a day or 6 small meals a day, make one big pot of food in a morning that you are gonna eat that day and then eat it when ever you want, use loads of green veg

and get to the gym, 40 minutes workout burns a meal

so if you are eating 3 meals equivalent and burning one then you should be losing weight

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Originally Posted by erics44

i know this might be a bit patronising but isnt weight loss about eating less food than you burn?

you can still eat a lot of food and lose weight

preparing your own meals every meal will help reduce the calories, you can eat 3 normal meals a day or 6 small meals a day, make one big pot of food in a morning that you are gonna eat that day and then eat it when ever you want, use loads of green veg

and get to the gym, 40 minutes workout burns a meal

so if you are eating 3 meals equivalent and burning one then you should be losing weight

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that dont work the same for everyone. All down to metabolism and person etc. Obviously you have no trouble keeping weight off

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i know this might be a bit patronising but isnt weight loss about eating less food than you burn?

you can still eat a lot of food and lose weight

preparing your own meals every meal will help reduce the calories, you can eat 3 normal meals a day or 6 small meals a day, make one big pot of food in a morning that you are gonna eat that day and then eat it when ever you want, use loads of green veg

and get to the gym, 40 minutes workout burns a meal

so if you are eating 3 meals equivalent and burning one then you should be losing weight

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that dont work the same for everyone. All down to metabolism and person etc. Obviously you have no trouble keeping weight off

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it does work the same for everyone

people say it is different for them are generally fat

burn more callories than you eat and you will lose weight

i dont have any trouble with my weight because i train 6 days a week, i have hardly any fat on me at the minute, i eat a lot of food too, i make most of my own meals but i do eat fast food curries burgers kebabs i drink beer (although not that often any more) chocolate

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Originally Posted by erics44

i know this might be a bit patronising but isnt weight loss about eating less food than you burn?

you can still eat a lot of food and lose weight

preparing your own meals every meal will help reduce the calories, you can eat 3 normal meals a day or 6 small meals a day, make one big pot of food in a morning that you are gonna eat that day and then eat it when ever you want, use loads of green veg

and get to the gym, 40 minutes workout burns a meal

so if you are eating 3 meals equivalent and burning one then you should be losing weight

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that dont work the same for everyone. All down to metabolism and person etc. Obviously you have no trouble keeping weight off

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it does work the same for everyone

people say it is different for them are generally fat

burn more callories than you eat and you will lose weight

i dont have any trouble with my weight because i train 6 days a week, i have hardly any fat on me at the minute, i eat a lot of food too, i make most of my own meals but i do eat fast food curries burgers kebabs i drink beer (although not that often any more) chocolate

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...and because you don't have an eating disorder.

I'm pretty sure I know more about how to lose weight than anybody else on here, but knowing what is the correct thing to do and being able to is not black and white for everybody.

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Originally Posted by erics44

i know this might be a bit patronising but isnt weight loss about eating less food than you burn?

you can still eat a lot of food and lose weight

preparing your own meals every meal will help reduce the calories, you can eat 3 normal meals a day or 6 small meals a day, make one big pot of food in a morning that you are gonna eat that day and then eat it when ever you want, use loads of green veg

and get to the gym, 40 minutes workout burns a meal

so if you are eating 3 meals equivalent and burning one then you should be losing weight

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that dont work the same for everyone. All down to metabolism and person etc. Obviously you have no trouble keeping weight off

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it does work the same for everyone

people say it is different for them are generally fat

burn more callories than you eat and you will lose weight

i dont have any trouble with my weight because i train 6 days a week, i have hardly any fat on me at the minute, i eat a lot of food too, i make most of my own meals but i do eat fast food curries burgers kebabs i drink beer (although not that often any more) chocolate

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Well, scientific logic dictates what you are saying, but it also excludes the proclivities of the human mind or the free time habits of many people.

What goes in should be less than what goes out is an obvious logic. However, some people drink too much or indulge in risky behaviour too. You could just say, 'cut it out', but there are other factors, often deeper factors involved.

I have been crass in the past about mental disorders and obese people, but really I don't belittle them. Everyone has their own obstacle and I guess this is Big H's one. I wish him well.

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Originally Posted by erics44

i know this might be a bit patronising but isnt weight loss about eating less food than you burn?

you can still eat a lot of food and lose weight

preparing your own meals every meal will help reduce the calories, you can eat 3 normal meals a day or 6 small meals a day, make one big pot of food in a morning that you are gonna eat that day and then eat it when ever you want, use loads of green veg

and get to the gym, 40 minutes workout burns a meal

so if you are eating 3 meals equivalent and burning one then you should be losing weight

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that dont work the same for everyone. All down to metabolism and person etc. Obviously you have no trouble keeping weight off

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it does work the same for everyone

people say it is different for them are generally fat

burn more callories than you eat and you will lose weight

i dont have any trouble with my weight because i train 6 days a week, i have hardly any fat on me at the minute, i eat a lot of food too, i make most of my own meals but i do eat fast food curries burgers kebabs i drink beer (although not that often any more) chocolate

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...and because you don't have an eating disorder.

I'm pretty sure I know more about how to lose weight than anybody else on here, but knowing what is the correct thing to do and being able to is not black and white for everybody.

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physically it works on the same principles for everyone, mentally people are different yes so no its not black and white for everyone, I appreciate that you have trouble

My reaction was to the diet you plan to do

it sounds pretty extreme and pretty daft and i would have said you (anyone) are destined to fail

i think rythm and structure is a key to success

I dont know anything about eating disorders so i dont know your issues, but if i was to give anyone any advice who had been dieting for years and was still fat it would be that controlling the food they eat clearly isnt working, try taking the callories off in other ways, exercize (obviously dont totally relax with what you eat, be careful just dont put too much pressure on)

you are obviously a boxing fan, go to a local boxing gym a couple of times a week and do a circuit for 45 minutes, you will be very suprised at how much better you feel, then hopefully that will lead to better things

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Originally Posted by erics44

i know this might be a bit patronising but isnt weight loss about eating less food than you burn?

you can still eat a lot of food and lose weight

preparing your own meals every meal will help reduce the calories, you can eat 3 normal meals a day or 6 small meals a day, make one big pot of food in a morning that you are gonna eat that day and then eat it when ever you want, use loads of green veg

and get to the gym, 40 minutes workout burns a meal

so if you are eating 3 meals equivalent and burning one then you should be losing weight

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that dont work the same for everyone. All down to metabolism and person etc. Obviously you have no trouble keeping weight off

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it does work the same for everyone

people say it is different for them are generally fat

burn more callories than you eat and you will lose weight

i dont have any trouble with my weight because i train 6 days a week, i have hardly any fat on me at the minute, i eat a lot of food too, i make most of my own meals but i do eat fast food curries burgers kebabs i drink beer (although not that often any more) chocolate

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...and because you don't have an eating disorder.

I'm pretty sure I know more about how to lose weight than anybody else on here, but knowing what is the correct thing to do and being able to is not black and white for everybody.

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physically it works on the same principles for everyone, mentally people are different yes so no its not black and white for everyone, I appreciate that you have trouble

My reaction was to the diet you plan to do

it sounds pretty extreme and pretty daft and i would have said you (anyone) are destined to fail

i think rythm and structure is a key to success

I dont know anything about eating disorders so i dont know your issues, but if i was to give anyone any advice who had been dieting for years and was still fat it would be that controlling the food they eat clearly isnt working, try taking the callories off in other ways, exercize (obviously dont totally relax with what you eat, be careful just dont put too much pressure on)

you are obviously a boxing fan, go to a local boxing gym a couple of times a week and do a circuit for 45 minutes, you will be very suprised at how much better you feel, then hopefully that will lead to better things

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Yeh it's good advice mate. I am usually quite fir and go to the gym 5-6 times per week. I haven't been for a few months and do need to sort that side out, but I still gain weight even when doing vigorous exercise, because I eat so much,

You are deffo right that 'Diet's don't work long term, but it's the short term that is also an issue, becuase when you are overweight, thinking about losing weight slowly and it taking a year is hard to get your head around. Also, the fact is I cannot sustain anything long term (apart from starvation, which I can)

yep - different for everyone. We all now people who exercise like fuck and are still walking lard arses. Its not easy and what works for one doesn't for another.


Kind of like me saying just drop your pants and expect a massive cock to drop out. It works for me because I have been blessed with one. But other people not so fortunate

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yep - different for everyone. We all now people who exercise like fuck and are still walking lard arses. Its not easy and what works for one doesn't for another.


Kind of like me saying just drop your pants and expect a massive cock to drop out. It works for me because I have been blessed with one. But other people not so fortunate

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honestly mate there arent many people around who do actually exercise like fuck and are fat, in fact i would say there are probably none

no doubt you eat more than me, i eat a lot of food tho and i havent got an inch of fat on me and thats coz i exercise so regulary, im not bragging its just the way things work

and imagine if you did exercise more you could be like me, a six pack and a big willy :)

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Originally Posted by erics44

honestly mate there arent many people around who do actually exercise like fuck and are fat, in fact i would say there are probably none

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I can name a couple I work with who are fat and fit (as fuck) with regular exercise but I won't as they sometimes read this forum as a gauge of what I do during my working day......

by the way, if you have trouble with in between meal snacking buy yourself some grapes

grapes are fuckin lovelly and they help you shit as well

ive just eaten a couple of handfuls and i forgot how nice they are

better than a packet of crisps

Big-H,

When I wanna lose weight, I go the high protein route, and I include exercising and walks, the longer the better.

Good luck bro, keep us updated on your progress.

cheers

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Big-H,

When I wanna lose weight, I go the high protein route, and I include exercising and walks, the longer the better.

Good luck bro, keep us updated on your progress.

cheers

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Nice one dude

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Originally Posted by erics44

i know this might be a bit patronising but isnt weight loss about eating less food than you burn?

you can still eat a lot of food and lose weight

preparing your own meals every meal will help reduce the calories, you can eat 3 normal meals a day or 6 small meals a day, make one big pot of food in a morning that you are gonna eat that day and then eat it when ever you want, use loads of green veg

and get to the gym, 40 minutes workout burns a meal

so if you are eating 3 meals equivalent and burning one then you should be losing weight

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that dont work the same for everyone. All down to metabolism and person etc. Obviously you have no trouble keeping weight off

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it does work the same for everyone

people say it is different for them are generally fat

burn more callories than you eat and you will lose weight

i dont have any trouble with my weight because i train 6 days a week, i have hardly any fat on me at the minute, i eat a lot of food too, i make most of my own meals but i do eat fast food curries burgers kebabs i drink beer (although not that often any more) chocolate

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No-What you are doing is maintaining. NO the same as having to lose and keep it off.

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Originally Posted by erics44

i know this might be a bit patronising but isnt weight loss about eating less food than you burn?

you can still eat a lot of food and lose weight

preparing your own meals every meal will help reduce the calories, you can eat 3 normal meals a day or 6 small meals a day, make one big pot of food in a morning that you are gonna eat that day and then eat it when ever you want, use loads of green veg

and get to the gym, 40 minutes workout burns a meal

so if you are eating 3 meals equivalent and burning one then you should be losing weight

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that dont work the same for everyone. All down to metabolism and person etc. Obviously you have no trouble keeping weight off

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it does work the same for everyone

people say it is different for them are generally fat

burn more callories than you eat and you will lose weight

i dont have any trouble with my weight because i train 6 days a week, i have hardly any fat on me at the minute, i eat a lot of food too, i make most of my own meals but i do eat fast food curries burgers kebabs i drink beer (although not that often any more) chocolate

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No-What you are doing is maintaining. NO the same as having to lose and keep it off.

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i was 16 stone at christmas and im somewhere between 12 and 12 and a half now

after this christmas i will start trying to add some muscle again (and at my age its very difficult to add muscle without fat) so i will probably go back up around 16 and then lose the fat again

I am still losing weight now but nowhere near the rate that i was mainly because i havent got as much to lose and my body doesnt need as many callories

so no im not maintaining

that's not what you said in your first post;)

& it's a bit like people who wake up one day and quit smoking then can't see the reason why everyone can't do it.

Good luck mate. It sounds like a nonsense diet to me, just someone trying to come up with yet another twist and unique angle to sell a book. But as your problem is clearly psychological in nature if it motivates you it may well work for you.

I actually think you don't need diet advice whatsoever though. You surely know what the healthy foodstuffs are and what you should not be eating, the problem lies in applying it.

I think you need to tackle the root cause, which is a behavioural disorder rather than embarking on another diet.

I would really recommend this book. It's what I used to get me on my exercise program, and Ive stayed on it for 7 months now. Really helpful book about changing ingrained behaviour patterns effortlessly. It's a great book and has some usual studies on overeating in there too.

Switch: How to change things when change is hard: Amazon.co.uk: Chip Heath, Dan Heath: Books

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UpDayDownDay Diet™ Plan – How to Succeed

The 'Up Day' 'Down Day' diet. I've read the whole book and there are some very interesting medical benefits to this diet, so I am going to give it a go.

Basically it involves, only having 500 calories every other day, and then just eating want you want (within reason) on the alternate days.

Being that my big problem is sustaining a weight loss program for a long period of time, because it's so restrictive, I'm hoping that this will be a good solution, as I will only, in effect, be restricted 50% of the time.

Sounds good on paper, I'll see how it goes.

Anybody familiar with this program?

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Good luck

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

that's not what you said in your first post;)

& it's a bit like people who wake up one day and quit smoking then can't see the reason why everyone can't do it.

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i have never said weather i was losing weight or not, i said i eat a lot and dont gain weight

and i never said that it would be easy, have a read back through

I said the diet he is doing is stoopid (in not so many words) and rather than put too much pressure on himself for what he is eating (because it clearly isnt working) add some exercize

good advice dont you think?

Good luck bro. Stay focused on the goal.

H. Good luck. But as we both know unless you deal with the other stuff this is only temporary.

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H. Good luck. But as we both know unless you deal with the other stuff this is only temporary.

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Thats bang on.

Sounds like quite a good diet, but I'm sure the good and bad days will get blurred or you'll end up going crazy in the bad days and eating 4000 calories!