Hopkins payed the price for his at times bad conduct in the ring
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Hopkins payed the price for his at times bad conduct in the ring
Some people think not but i dont the truth is i have never, seen the man box a clean round foul after foul in all his fights.? ;D
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Originally Posted by Dia bando
He is just a dirty fighter, crap to watch boring, just a fighter i would like to see the back of are you a fan? he got what was coming to him. A lot of people are knocking Dawson but a job well done, What would you say if it was the other way round poor Chad i dont think so,? A hopkins fight is more like a huging contest not a boxing match?;D
I can respect a man who speaks the truth regardless of whether it's politically correct or not..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Bando is spot on about the ghetto conman.
I admit, Nard was a different fighter back in the 90s ( He wasn't known to cure insomnias back then ) but most of his bouts in 2000s ( excluding Tito ) have been some bullshit scam though.. Ive never seen this man putting on a sustained boxing match.. ever.. It's always that bullshit " throw one punch and clinch " like a coward.. same thing over and over God i can't stand him ..
so i guess you didn't see the clinics he put on against Tarver, Pavlik, and Pascal (both times), i found all 4 fights to be plenty entertainingQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI can respect a man who speaks the truth regardless of whether it's politically correct or not..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Bando is spot on about the ghetto conman.
I admit, Nard was a different fighter back in the 90s ( He wasn't known to cure insomnias back then ) but most of his bouts in 2000s ( excluding Tito ) have been some bullshit scam though.. Ive never seen this man putting on a sustained boxing match.. ever.. It's always that bullshit " throw one punch and clinch " like a coward.. same thing over and over God i can't stand him ..
and since when is Dawson an entertaining fighter? only damn fight he had that was worth a damn was his first fight against Johnson, if you're in a fight at 175 against Adamek and it was boring as fuck you know that Adamek isn't the one at fault...that's all i have to say about that
Against Tarver?? that's was hardly entertaining.. considering the fact that it was a hops fight though, it was just tolerable but not thrilling by no means.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesso i guess you didn't see the clinics he put on against Tarver, Pavlik, and Pascal (both times), i found all 4 fights to be plenty entertainingQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI can respect a man who speaks the truth regardless of whether it's politically correct or not..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Bando is spot on about the ghetto conman.
I admit, Nard was a different fighter back in the 90s ( He wasn't known to cure insomnias back then ) but most of his bouts in 2000s ( excluding Tito ) have been some bullshit scam though.. Ive never seen this man putting on a sustained boxing match.. ever.. It's always that bullshit " throw one punch and clinch " like a coward.. same thing over and over God i can't stand him ..
and since when is Dawson an entertaining fighter? only damn fight he had that was worth a damn was his first fight against Johnson, if you're in a fight at 175 against Adamek and it was boring as fuck you know that Adamek isn't the one at fault...that's all i have to say about that
Pavlik?? Hops is an opportunist and he knew pav was tailor made for him. Are you really excited by one-sided fights? IM sure not.. that was a sparring session, not an exciting boxing match..
Pascal?? ok i guess the first fight was mildly entertaining, just mildy especially for hops fight..
And i never said anything about Chad being an exciting fighter, dude. He's still better and more watchable than hops but that's not saying much.
When people think of Bernard Hopkins, EXCITEMENT isn't exactly the first thing that pops inside their heads.. Let's be real here. If you like him, fine, but dont try to make him out to be something that he is not.
Is he Foxy and Crafty?? Yes.. Is he dirty? YEs.. is he exciting?? NOT AT ALL..
you forget to mention that both Tarver and Pavlik were the favorites in each fight, as was Pascal, Dawson is the Wlad Klitschko of the LHW division when it comes to tempo of his fights (although nowhere as accomplished) only he doesn't get the KO, all he does is jab jab stare, and it's BOXING, not stand in front of each other and wail on each other, Hopkins is able to make EVERYONE fight at his pace then take them to school, Dawson was no different, he was brought down to fight at Hopkins pace and was just missing and bitching the 2 rounds that went onQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaAgainst Tarver?? that's was hardly entertaining.. considering the fact that it was a hops fight though, it was just tolerable but not thrilling by no means.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesso i guess you didn't see the clinics he put on against Tarver, Pavlik, and Pascal (both times), i found all 4 fights to be plenty entertainingQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI can respect a man who speaks the truth regardless of whether it's politically correct or not..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Bando is spot on about the ghetto conman.
I admit, Nard was a different fighter back in the 90s ( He wasn't known to cure insomnias back then ) but most of his bouts in 2000s ( excluding Tito ) have been some bullshit scam though.. Ive never seen this man putting on a sustained boxing match.. ever.. It's always that bullshit " throw one punch and clinch " like a coward.. same thing over and over God i can't stand him ..
and since when is Dawson an entertaining fighter? only damn fight he had that was worth a damn was his first fight against Johnson, if you're in a fight at 175 against Adamek and it was boring as fuck you know that Adamek isn't the one at fault...that's all i have to say about that
Pavlik?? Hops is an opportunist and he knew pav was tailor made for him. Are you really excited by one-sided fights? IM sure not.. that was a sparring session, not an exciting boxing match..
Pascal?? ok i guess the first fight was mildly entertaining, just mildy especially for hops fight..
And i never said anything about Chad being an exciting fighter, dude. He's still better and more watchable than hops but that's not saying much.
When people think of Bernard Hopkins, EXCITEMENT isn't exactly the first thing that pops inside their heads.. Let's be real here. If you like him, fine, but dont try to make him out to be something that he is not.
Is he Foxy and Crafty?? Yes.. Is he dirty? YEs.. is he exciting?? NOT AT ALL..
At this stage most of Hopkins' appeal is that he is a 47 year old man competing with young prime boxers. It's not that his style is exciting because it isn't.
B Hop was in the fight but I had him losing the first round. I think Dawson was fully motivated to win the fight. B Hop would have landed some meaningful right hands over the course of the fight but would eventually have lost the decision. Dawson was desperate to win this fight.
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Originally Posted by Master
When i go to a fight i want to see a FIGHT same with ppv, but with Hopkins you dont get that?his fight's are CRAP so when you or i give good money to go into his pocket i see MY:moon-new:
sounds like you guys would be better UFC fans than boxing fans.
NO THANK''S it a bit:gayfight2:
I don't think anyone has ever accused Hopkins of being an exciting fighter.
With him it's the promotion and a guy who respects his body enough to keep it in prime working shape competing at the highest level at 47 years old.
Dawson is a stinker himself, a tactical fighter with 0 killer instinct and frequently loses focus. It's no secret that I'm a huge Floyd fan but he gets accused of the old reverse reverse. But he has a 2nd gear and a killer instinct and is all business unlike Dawson.
The guy is from my state and 15min away from my town in Hartford CT, but I cant route for a guy that is as passive as him . Against Pascal he had ample Opportunity to get Pascal out of there but he screwed about took his foot off the gas and gaffed a chance to KO Pascal in Canada raising his stock.. Instead a headbutt and loses his title
He has 1000000% himself to blame and he aint getting anymore exciting
I never doubted Hops' craftyness. I mean the guy is a slick old fox, but yea, his fights from 2002- present were hardly thrillers. He's like a John Ruiz and Hatton rolled into one.. Punch, grab, punch, grab, punch, grab..
Toney is right. True throwbacks dont even get down like that.
Clinching is a part of the game, true, but when that becomes one of your main tactics, doing it excessively and unnecessarily, it becomes an eye sore not many purists want to see that.
Ive rarely seen him in a sustained boxing match for more than few seconds at a time and it's just real ugly to watch. He's not spontaneous enough to be exciting.