Chavez Jr. vs. Manfredo Jr chat/fight thread + the Pac-JMM III replay tonight on HBO

Chavez Jr. vs. Manfredo Jr. figures to suck, but up first, the Pac - JMM III replay will be worth a 2nd look, i'd like to score it on my big screen in HD. :fight:

November 19
At Houston (HBO): Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. vs. Peter Manfredo Jr., 12 rounds, for Chavez's WBC middleweight title.

As for the main event, Julio Jr. should prevail, that's the reason they chose Manfredo, but who knows, stranger thing have happened.

Battle of the inferior Jnr types? I think I am going to give boxing a miss this weekend. A crappy result followed by a crappy matchup. How they are spoiling the boxing public with their generosity. I can't be arsed with it.

Fuck you, Bob Arum!

I hope Jr lose!!!

Manfredo is the bigger man and far more experienced.

For fucks sake he got a draw with Jeff Lacy a few years back !

But, like I said that was a few years ago, and I fear Manfredo may be a bit past it now.

I'm picking him to pull the upset though and expose Chavez, who is all heart, but very short on skill.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

Manfredo is the bigger man and far more experienced.

For fucks sake he got a draw with Jeff Lacy a few years back !

But, like I said that was a few years ago, and I fear Manfredo may be a bit past it now.

I'm picking him to pull the upset though and expose Chavez, who is all heart, but very short on skill.

---

At least Jr vs. Jr isn't a PPV, the highlight is going to be the Pac-JJM III replay, I believe we need to have a replay. "scoring thread" saturday night, and see how everyone scores it this time.

As for Chavez Jr. vs. Manfredo Jr, Julio should take care of business.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by miles

Battle of the inferior Jnr types? I think I am going to give boxing a miss this weekend. A crappy result followed by a crappy matchup. How they are spoiling the boxing public with their generosity. I can't be arsed with it.

Fuck you, Bob Arum!

---

I can't blame you there miles, but you might want to check out the forum's comments after the Pac-JMM III replay, it'll probably be more of the same shit, but WTF..:-X

I wouldn't mind seeing Peter Jr. light up Julio Jr, but unfortunately Peter Jr. can't crack an egg.

Keep in mind miles, you need to watch all "big" fights, however boring they might be, or you'll lose your status as a "purist", true fan of boxing or a heavyweight armchair expert on this forum. ;D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by miles

Battle of the inferior Jnr types? I think I am going to give boxing a miss this weekend. A crappy result followed by a crappy matchup. How they are spoiling the boxing public with their generosity. I can't be arsed with it.

Fuck you, Bob Arum!

---

I can't blame you there miles, but you might want to check out the forum's comments after the Pac-JMM III replay, it'll probably be more of the same shit, but WTF..:-X

I wouldn't mind seeing Peter Jr. light up Julio Jr, but unfortunately Peter Jr. can't crack an egg.

Keep in mind miles, you need to watch all "big" fights, however boring they might be, or you'll lose your status as a "purist", true fan of boxing or a heavyweight armchair expert on this forum. ;D

---

I've seen Manfredo KO people before, he had a sensational stoppage of Joey Spina a few years back.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by miles

Battle of the inferior Jnr types? I think I am going to give boxing a miss this weekend. A crappy result followed by a crappy matchup. How they are spoiling the boxing public with their generosity. I can't be arsed with it.

Fuck you, Bob Arum!

---

I can't blame you there miles, but you might want to check out the forum's comments after the Pac-JMM III replay, it'll probably be more of the same shit, but WTF..:-X

I wouldn't mind seeing Peter Jr. light up Julio Jr, but unfortunately Peter Jr. can't crack an egg.

Keep in mind miles, you need to watch all "big" fights, however boring they might be, or you'll lose your status as a "purist", true fan of boxing or a heavyweight armchair expert on this forum. ;D

---

I've seen Manfredo KO people before, he had a sensational stoppage of Joey Spina a few years back.

---

Well hopefully Peter Jr. will fight like he's got a pair Saturday night, i'd love to see anybody light up that pampered asswipe Julio Jr..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by miles

Battle of the inferior Jnr types? I think I am going to give boxing a miss this weekend. A crappy result followed by a crappy matchup. How they are spoiling the boxing public with their generosity. I can't be arsed with it.

Fuck you, Bob Arum!

---

I can't blame you there miles, but you might want to check out the forum's comments after the Pac-JMM III replay, it'll probably be more of the same shit, but WTF..:-X

I wouldn't mind seeing Peter Jr. light up Julio Jr, but unfortunately Peter Jr. can't crack an egg.

Keep in mind miles, you need to watch all "big" fights, however boring they might be, or you'll lose your status as a "purist", true fan of boxing or a heavyweight armchair expert on this forum. ;D

---

I've seen Manfredo KO people before, he had a sensational stoppage of Joey Spina a few years back.

---

Well hopefully Peter Jr. will fight like he's got a pair Saturday night, i'd love to see anybody light up that pampered asswipe Julio Jr..

---

That makes two of us !

Lets just hope that its not a repeat of Manfredo vs. Bika.

Though I don't see how it could be as Chavez Jr. is nowhere near the puncher or animal that Bika is.

Hoping the winner of chavez jr vs manfredo jr goes up against cotto margo winner. Chavez jr vs. cotto/margarito would make my heart sing. JCC jr should've been pelted with more mexican peso coins back in his vanda fight, he probably took more punishment from the water bottles being thrown at him back then than the punches he got from all his fights combined.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by arcanum26

Hoping the winner of chavez jr vs manfredo jr goes up against cotto margo winner. Chavez jr vs. cotto/margarito would make my heart sing. JCC jr should've been pelted with more mexican peso coins back in his vanda fight, he probably took more punishment from the water bottles being thrown at him back then than the punches he got from all his fights combined.

---

Assuming Julio Jr. wins, either Cotto or Margarito would then have to move up to Middleweight to face Julio Jr., so those fights aren't likely to happen.

What i'd really like to see is Julio Jr vs. Sergio Martinez, but team Chavez knows better then to take that fight, Jr. would get massacred. You kinda wonder though, how long Julio will be able to duck Martinez, maybe another year at the most.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by miles

Battle of the inferior Jnr types? I think I am going to give boxing a miss this weekend. A crappy result followed by a crappy matchup. How they are spoiling the boxing public with their generosity. I can't be arsed with it.

Fuck you, Bob Arum!

---

I can't blame you there miles, but you might want to check out the forum's comments after the Pac-JMM III replay, it'll probably be more of the same shit, but WTF..:-X

I wouldn't mind seeing Peter Jr. light up Julio Jr, but unfortunately Peter Jr. can't crack an egg.

Keep in mind miles, you need to watch all "big" fights, however boring they might be, or you'll lose your status as a "purist", true fan of boxing or a heavyweight armchair expert on this forum. ;D

---

I've seen Manfredo KO people before, he had a sensational stoppage of Joey Spina a few years back.

---

Well hopefully Peter Jr. will fight like he's got a pair Saturday night, i'd love to see anybody light up that pampered asswipe Julio Jr..

---

That makes two of us !

Lets just hope that its not a repeat of Manfredo vs. Bika.

Though I don't see how it could be as Chavez Jr. is nowhere near the puncher or animal that Bika is.

---

Manfredo is pretty much just another hand picked 'can that Julio Jr should be able to get by, an upset however, would tickle the shit outta me.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by miles

Battle of the inferior Jnr types? I think I am going to give boxing a miss this weekend. A crappy result followed by a crappy matchup. How they are spoiling the boxing public with their generosity. I can't be arsed with it.

Fuck you, Bob Arum!

---

I can't blame you there miles, but you might want to check out the forum's comments after the Pac-JMM III replay, it'll probably be more of the same shit, but WTF..:-X

I wouldn't mind seeing Peter Jr. light up Julio Jr, but unfortunately Peter Jr. can't crack an egg.

Keep in mind miles, you need to watch all "big" fights, however boring they might be, or you'll lose your status as a "purist", true fan of boxing or a heavyweight armchair expert on this forum. ;D

---

I've seen Manfredo KO people before, he had a sensational stoppage of Joey Spina a few years back.

---

Well hopefully Peter Jr. will fight like he's got a pair Saturday night, i'd love to see anybody light up that pampered asswipe Julio Jr..

---

That makes two of us !

Lets just hope that its not a repeat of Manfredo vs. Bika.

Though I don't see how it could be as Chavez Jr. is nowhere near the puncher or animal that Bika is.

---

Manfredo is pretty much just another hand picked 'can that Julio Jr should be able to get by, an upset however, would tickle the shit outta me.

---

I think Manfredo is his biggest step up yet. He's a top 20 supermiddleweight.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by miles

Battle of the inferior Jnr types? I think I am going to give boxing a miss this weekend. A crappy result followed by a crappy matchup. How they are spoiling the boxing public with their generosity. I can't be arsed with it.

Fuck you, Bob Arum!

---

I can't blame you there miles, but you might want to check out the forum's comments after the Pac-JMM III replay, it'll probably be more of the same shit, but WTF..:-X

I wouldn't mind seeing Peter Jr. light up Julio Jr, but unfortunately Peter Jr. can't crack an egg.

Keep in mind miles, you need to watch all "big" fights, however boring they might be, or you'll lose your status as a "purist", true fan of boxing or a heavyweight armchair expert on this forum. ;D

---

I don't see how Arum is at fault here? He matched Pacquiao TOUGH against Marquez. He is willing to match him up TOUGH against Marquez again. What is wrong with that?

Chavez Jr. doesn't really deserve to be on TV, but the problem is he sells...A LOT.
Do you know how many tickets and the viewship numbers are for Chavez Jr.? They're above most other boxers.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by miles

Battle of the inferior Jnr types? I think I am going to give boxing a miss this weekend. A crappy result followed by a crappy matchup. How they are spoiling the boxing public with their generosity. I can't be arsed with it.

Fuck you, Bob Arum!

---

I can't blame you there miles, but you might want to check out the forum's comments after the Pac-JMM III replay, it'll probably be more of the same shit, but WTF..:-X

I wouldn't mind seeing Peter Jr. light up Julio Jr, but unfortunately Peter Jr. can't crack an egg.

Keep in mind miles, you need to watch all "big" fights, however boring they might be, or you'll lose your status as a "purist", true fan of boxing or a heavyweight armchair expert on this forum. ;D

---

I don't see how Arum is at fault here? He matched Pacquiao TOUGH against Marquez. He is willing to match him up TOUGH against Marquez again. What is wrong with that?

Chavez Jr. doesn't really deserve to be on TV, but the problem is he sells...A LOT.
Do you know how many tickets and the viewship numbers are for Chavez Jr.? They're above most other boxers.

---

Yep, Julio Jr has a huge Latino fan-base, and Arum has had him headlining PPV's starting 3 or 4 years ago, way before he was even a trinket holder.

I don't really dislike Julio Jr, but i'm gonna love it when he finally steps up and fights a pug with a pair, like Sergio Martinez, and gets exposed and annihilated.

More and more I think about this, the more I think Chavez Jr. will beat the Pride of Providence and maybe even stop him. In recent memory, I've seen Manfredo lose to Bika and Calzaghe. They had in common that they were bigger than him and they won by swarming him. Well, isn't that exactly Chavez Jr. just less skilled than either? Chavez Jr. is a huge middleweight. He weighs in at like 180 pounds for fights and he is a come-forward stalker with a decent inside game. I respect Manfredo but style-wise this could be all wrong for him.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

More and more I think about this, the more I think Chavez Jr. will beat the Pride of Providence and maybe even stop him. In recent memory, I've seen Manfredo lose to Bika and Calzaghe. They had in common that they were bigger than him and they won by swarming him. Well, isn't that exactly Chavez Jr. just less skilled than either? Chavez Jr. is a huge middleweight. He weighs in at like 180 pounds for fights and he is a come-forward stalker with a decent inside game. I respect Manfredo but style-wise this could be all wrong for him.

---

Julio Jr. is a growing boy, and he figures to take care of business against Manfredo, in my neck of the woods, in Houston, Texas, I live about 150 miles north of Houston in East Texas. They might as well have held the fight in Mexico, because half of Mexico will show up in Houston tomorrow night. ;)

I think more people care about the replay than they do the live fight. Props to both for doing what they do but is there anyone that really cares if chavez can beat manfredo or the other way around . Chavez will probably be huge fast and beat the crap out of peter and by tuesday i probably won't even remember

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mar

I think more people care about the replay than they do the live fight. Props to both for doing what they do but is there anyone that really cares if chavez can beat manfredo or the other way around . Chavez will probably be huge fast and beat the crap out of peter and by tuesday i probably won't even remember

---

Pac-JMM III has already been discussed/debated enough, I just want to see the replay mainly for my own benefit, and maybe add a brief comment or two on this thread. Aside from all the controversy, the fight seemed rather boring, neither pug was hurt or knocked down, and as near as I can tell, neither guy dominated the other. I imagine the replay will spawn another round of whining and bitching which I want no part of.

As for Julio Jr. vs Manfredo, it might be somewhat entertaining, at least it's not another lame ass PPV.
I'll probably see some people on HBO down in Houston tomorrow night that I recognize, so it'll be fun for me.

I see Manfredo pulling the upset. Chavez Jr. can't box.

I can't believe this day has come.......... I'm actually rooting for Manfredo. :o


Where is P.O.B.? He would have a heart attack if he seen this coming out of me. ;D


Manfredo needs a knock out to get the win, because no way will he get a decision in Chavez territory. The one good thing I will say about Manfredo, he won't chicken out of the mandatory fight with Martinez like Chavez will. Chavez will give up the belt before getting in the ring with Martinez to get his ass kicked.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Diane

I can't believe this day has come.......... I'm actually rooting for Manfredo. :o


Where is P.O.B.? He would have a heart attack if he seen this coming out of me. ;D


Manfredo needs a knock out to get the win, because no way will he get a decision in Chavez territory. The one good thing I will say about Manfredo, he won't chicken out of the mandatory fight with Martinez like Chavez will. Chavez will give up the belt before getting in the ring with Martinez to get his ass kicked.

---

Ain't that the truth, I do believe however that if Julio Jr. keeps ducking Martinez boxing fans are gonna get pissed. Team Chavez' strategy right now seems to be waiting until Sergio loses to someone else, or turns 40.

I think the chances of Manfredo winning in Houston tomorrow night are pretty slim, but i'll be pulling for him.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Diane

I can't believe this day has come.......... I'm actually rooting for Manfredo. :o


Where is P.O.B.? He would have a heart attack if he seen this coming out of me. ;D


Manfredo needs a knock out to get the win, because no way will he get a decision in Chavez territory. The one good thing I will say about Manfredo, he won't chicken out of the mandatory fight with Martinez like Chavez will. Chavez will give up the belt before getting in the ring with Martinez to get his ass kicked.

---

Ain't that the truth, I do believe however that if Julio Jr. keeps ducking Martinez boxing fans are gonna get pissed. Team Chavez' strategy right now seems to be waiting until Sergio loses to someone else, or turns 40.

I think the chances of Manfredo winning in Houston tomorrow night are pretty slim, but i'll be pulling for him.

---

but seeing how he "has" the WBC Strap he'll never really be obligated to fight anyone who's a real threat, Sulaiman is pretty much his Godfather, and he'll treat JCC Jr as such by allowing him to hold his little trinket and fight bums, don't be shocked if Chavez takes on Alfonso Gomez at 160 some point next yr

24/7 Cotto/Margarito comes on HBO @ 10:00 PM EST tonight, followed by the Chavez Jr. vs. Manfredo Jr card on HBO @ 10:30 PM EST. The Pac - JMM III replay should be shown first.

November 19
Pac - JMM III replay
At Houston (HBO): Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. vs. Peter Manfredo Jr., 12 rounds, for Chavez's WBC middleweight title.

The entire telecast should be worth watching, so ice up some Cerveza and lets check it out. :alcoholic:

http://www.mirren.org/uploads/news/i...Equis_logo.jpg

I'm coming over all negative nancy, but who could really care less about this. It's a crap HBO fight. Chavez Jr is awful and is now on TV fight 5 year Calzaghe leftovers.....at lower weights.


I'm not watching, as I can't be arsed. But it is crap and I should always comment on what I believe.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hulk

I see Manfredo pulling the upset. Chavez Jr. can't box.

---

True, Julio Jr. can't do much of anything right, but I fear Manfredo is even worse.

I dimly remember picking Manfredo to beat Bika :dunce: + :looroll: ....I'll go as far as hoping and wanting him to whip Chavez part deaux. I think Rubio beats Chavez right now.

Honestly suprised this steaming nugget is a HBO main event (?) Finally get to see JMM vs Pac!!!!

Joshua "Tomato Can Slayer" Clottey, yawn.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Spicoli

I dimly remember picking Manfredo to beat Bika :dunce: + :looroll: ....I'll go as far as hoping and wanting him to whip Chavez part deaux. I think Rubio beats Chavez right now.

Honestly suprised this steaming nugget is a HBO main event (?) Finally get to see JMM vs Pac!!!!

---

Spicoli, I'm pretty sure they're going to show the Pac-JMM III replay tonight first, a little bit after 10:30 PM EST or about 2 hours from now. If possible, HBO usually shows the replay of their PPV's the following week.

I actually quite like Manfredo. I became a fan after I watched that story on FNF about how he had to get a job working on the ground crew at an arena he used to sell out. He made a lot of money, invested it, and then lost everything when the economy went tits up. I can respect that. I hope he pulls off the upset tonight and lands one last big money fight.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Spicoli

I dimly remember picking Manfredo to beat Bika :dunce: + :looroll: ....I'll go as far as hoping and wanting him to whip Chavez part deaux. I think Rubio beats Chavez right now.

Honestly suprised this steaming nugget is a HBO main event (?) Finally get to see JMM vs Pac!!!!

---

Spicoli, I'm pretty sure they're going to show the Pac-JMM III replay tonight first, a little bit after 10:30 PM EST or about 2 hours from now. If possible, HBO usually shows the replay of their PPV's the following week.

---

Cool, thanks. That is one I seriously regret not shelling out the bucks for rather than wait the week. Seeing a fight on replay is not nearly the same. Oh and I'm picking Marquez ;D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

I actually quite like Manfredo. I became a fan after I watched that story on FNF about how he had to get a job working on the ground crew at an arena he used to sell out. He made a lot of money, invested it, and then lost everything when the economy went tits up. I can respect that. I hope he pulls off the upset tonight and lands one last big money fight.

---

I'm pullin' for Manfredo, it just won't be easy for him getting the nod down in Houston, Texas.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Spicoli

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Spicoli

I dimly remember picking Manfredo to beat Bika :dunce: + :looroll: ....I'll go as far as hoping and wanting him to whip Chavez part deaux. I think Rubio beats Chavez right now.

Honestly suprised this steaming nugget is a HBO main event (?) Finally get to see JMM vs Pac!!!!

---

Spicoli, I'm pretty sure they're going to show the Pac-JMM III replay tonight first, a little bit after 10:30 PM EST or about 2 hours from now. If possible, HBO usually shows the replay of their PPV's the following week.

---

Cool, thanks. That is one I seriously regret not shelling out the bucks for rather than wait the week. Seeing a fight on replay is not nearly the same. Oh and I'm picking Marquez ;D

---

Good choice!, apparently the consensus of opinion is he actually "won" the fight, so we shall see. :-X

BTW, I'm glad I didn't buy the PPV.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

I actually quite like Manfredo. I became a fan after I watched that story on FNF about how he had to get a job working on the ground crew at an arena he used to sell out. He made a lot of money, invested it, and then lost everything when the economy went tits up. I can respect that. I hope he pulls off the upset tonight and lands one last big money fight.

---

I'm pullin' for Manfredo, it just won't be easy for him getting the nod down in Houston, Texas.

---

No, it won't. I think the best he can realistically hope for is a close, profile-raising loss that most people consider a robbery. He's not going to beat Jr. by a wide enough margin to get the nod.

I think he'll probably get stopped somewhere in the mid-rounds or lose a wide UD, but I'll be cheering for him regardless.

24/7 Cotto/Margarito is on right now.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Spicoli

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Spicoli

I dimly remember picking Manfredo to beat Bika :dunce: + :looroll: ....I'll go as far as hoping and wanting him to whip Chavez part deaux. I think Rubio beats Chavez right now.

Honestly suprised this steaming nugget is a HBO main event (?) Finally get to see JMM vs Pac!!!!

---

Spicoli, I'm pretty sure they're going to show the Pac-JMM III replay tonight first, a little bit after 10:30 PM EST or about 2 hours from now. If possible, HBO usually shows the replay of their PPV's the following week.

---

Cool, thanks. That is one I seriously regret not shelling out the bucks for rather than wait the week. Seeing a fight on replay is not nearly the same. Oh and I'm picking Marquez ;D

---

But bet on Pacquiao. See if some idiot will be willing to take the bet. ;D;D;D

Son of a bitch cotto damn ruined our high and got everyone over here two steps from cryin and buying some 54 10 shit . What up yall ? Load a bowl and let's watch some fights

Alrighty, HBO is going to show the the Pac-JMM III replay, coming up right now.

Manfredo looks...sleeeepy in the locker room.

ding-ding: replay!!!!! God I dislike HBOs team of blow by blowhards.

I've got it Pacquiao 4-2 after 6.