May 5th Mayweather Sweepstakes...who's next

Read an article from Ring magazine talking about who Mayweather should/could fight next, their top 3 picks are:

1. Sergio Martinez
2. Amir Khan
3. Victor Ortiz

Except for the Ortiz fight I think either 1 or 2 are great fights, I would be especially curious to see Amir fight Mayweather because of the speed of Khan.

**They also mentioned a wild card fight that could come up, James Kirkland. The article reads:

"This fight makes more sense than many might realize. Think about Kirkland’s recent performance against Alfredo Angulo. Compare it to Victor Ortiz and his with Andre Berto back in April. Think about where both fighters were. Think about HBO’s investment in each, and their similar nature in how the network has pushed each. It’s a very similar situation. Considering that, one wonders if Floyd’s team are thinking in a similar fashion."

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What are your thoughts on any of the 3 foes, minus Ortiz??

Id love to see floyd v martinez....... It wont happen tho as mayweather doesnt take fights that risky!!

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Originally Posted by Onix

Read an article from Ring magazine talking about who Mayweather should/could fight next, their top 3 picks are:

1. Sergio Martinez
2. Amir Khan
3. Victor Ortiz

Except for the Ortiz fight I think either 1 or 2 are great fights, I would be especially curious to see Amir fight Mayweather because of the speed of Khan.

**They also mentioned a wild card fight that could come up, James Kirkland. The article reads:

"This fight makes more sense than many might realize. Think about Kirkland’s recent performance against Alfredo Angulo. Compare it to Victor Ortiz and his with Andre Berto back in April. Think about where both fighters were. Think about HBO’s investment in each, and their similar nature in how the network has pushed each. It’s a very similar situation. Considering that, one wonders if Floyd’s team are thinking in a similar fashion."

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What are your thoughts on any of the 3 foes, minus Ortiz??

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It'll be the winner of Ortiz and Berto.

yea you know Pacquiao's not gonna be on that list, him and his team are already bitching out, looking for a 4th fight with Marquez, if he was so sure he won the fight why the fuck is he and Arum so hell bent on the 4th fight

Id love to see mayweather v the winner of cotto v margarito 2, im not saying either of em would beat mayweather, i just think floyd wud have a hard time as they're both big guys, both hit hard, cottos quick and margarito will walk through punches to land a bomb, it would be great viewing!!

Mayweather would be nuts to fight Kirkland IMO, unless he made him fight at 147. Kirkland may not have a chin, but he can box a little bit and he hits hard. It's the definition of a high-risk, low-reward fight.

I could see it being Berto if he beats Ortiz, which he will, or Khan. Both would be okay fights. 147, Pacquiao and Mayweather aside, is shit right now.

I would think Bradley would be a likely candidate if he wasn't an Arum fighter now, but that would be an awful fight.

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Id love to see mayweather v the winner of cotto v margarito 2, im not saying either of em would beat mayweather, i just think floyd wud have a hard time as they're both big guys, both hit hard, cottos quick and margarito will walk through punches to land a bomb, it would be great viewing!!

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I would have loved to see either of those fights about 5 years ago, but not now.

If Ishida can put Kirkland down thrice, Mayweather can too. That is actually a great fight for Mayweather. Kirkland is coming off a huge victory, it would be at 154, so people would think it was a risk and Mayweather knows Kirkland can be outboxed. At the same time, Mayweather can fight anyone at 80-20 and people will buy the fight regardless of whether it is on paper a competitive fight. He could fight Guerrero or Maidana and people would buy it so I'm not sure why he would fight Kirkland when those kinds of opponents are available.

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If Ishida can put Kirkland down thrice, Mayweather can too. That is actually a great fight for Mayweather. Kirkland is coming off a huge victory, it would be at 154, so people would think it was a risk and Mayweather knows Kirkland can be outboxed. At the same time, Mayweather can fight anyone at 80-20 and people will buy the fight regardless of whether it is on paper a competitive fight. He could fight Guerrero or Maidana and people would buy it so I'm not sure why he would fight Kirkland when those kinds of opponents are available.

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Is a victory over Angulo huge though? I think most people, myself included, have long considered Angulo to be a pretty mediocre fighter. It was a great win for Kirkland because it, kinda, showed that he could take a punch (or at least that he could better than in the Ishida fight), but beating Angulo doesn't mean that much in the grand scheme of things.

From what I know, and I could be wrong, Kirkland isn't an overly popular or esteemed fighter right now, so I don't know how well it would sell. I'd watch it though, I think it's a compelling fight, I just don't know if it makes sense from Mayweather's perspective. If I'm him, I'd fight someone like Bradley or Berto/Ortiz. They're more popular and are easier fights.

The only reason to fight Kirkland at 154 is if he's going after Martinez next, and even then I think there are safer and equally marketable fights at that weight.

Yeh maybe 5years ago id of actually fancide cotto or marg with a chance of winning, but i still think at light midd it would be entertaining to watch, one things for sure mayweather wouldnt get a kiss mid round from cotto or margarito!!

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Id love to see mayweather v the winner of cotto v margarito 2, im not saying either of em would beat mayweather, i just think floyd wud have a hard time as they're both big guys, both hit hard, cottos quick and margarito will walk through punches to land a bomb, it would be great viewing!!

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I would have loved to see either of those fights about 5 years ago, but not now.

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Originally Posted by Onix

Read an article from Ring magazine talking about who Mayweather should/could fight next, their top 3 picks are:

1. Sergio Martinez
2. Amir Khan
3. Victor Ortiz

Except for the Ortiz fight I think either 1 or 2 are great fights, I would be especially curious to see Amir fight Mayweather because of the speed of Khan.

**They also mentioned a wild card fight that could come up, James Kirkland. The article reads:

"This fight makes more sense than many might realize. Think about Kirkland’s recent performance against Alfredo Angulo. Compare it to Victor Ortiz and his with Andre Berto back in April. Think about where both fighters were. Think about HBO’s investment in each, and their similar nature in how the network has pushed each. It’s a very similar situation. Considering that, one wonders if Floyd’s team are thinking in a similar fashion."

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What are your thoughts on any of the 3 foes, minus Ortiz??

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It'll be the winner of Ortiz and Berto.

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Please NO!!!!!!!!

My issue with mayweather vs anyone is that he honestly cant be beat by any of these guys, not even martinez, martinez is a case of a fighter who looks impressive agaisnt certain guys, mayweather will win, and thats the hardest fight out there for him.

as far as ortiz? why bother? hopefully if berto wins itll atleast be fun to see that, but i say berto gets ko'ed.

Kirlkland, is a sucker for counters, not the first puncher maywaether fought

i would like a cotto fight cuz i am picking him to win(against margarito), but that might be pacqious leftovers in mays eyes

id love a fight with khan, still floyd by ko thou

final thoughts really, itll be fun to watch anyone of these, but dammit i want pacqiou-mayweather and i think we all need to sign a petition for it, those seem to be working lately

Out of all the fights for Floyd at 147, I'd most like to see him fight Khan (aside from Pacquiao of course). I think Khan's hand-speed could give Floyd some issues for at least a couple of rounds.

Floyd doesn't have the balls to fight Martinez for the middleweight title. We all know that. Leonard, Duran, Hearns, De La Hoya, Trinidad, they all came up in weight to challenge two of the greatest middleweight champions of all time.

But, Floyd won't dare do it.

I remember years ago Floyd talked a whole bunch about fighting Winky Wright at 154...then he went and fought a washed up Sharmba Mitchell instead.

I expect a similar outcome here. :cool:

The only real challenge on that list is Martinez, but I doubt that ever happens.
Mayweather v Martinez - a REAL super fight.

Why are people even talking about a Guerrero fight?

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Funny thing is 4 of the 6 voting for Guerrero to win were either his good friends or his promoters. Donaire, Casamyor, Gomez of GB and one other guy from GB.

It would not surprise me if he fought Morales, Maidana or Guerrero on May 5th. I can't see him taking a backwards step and fight Ortiz again. Personally I would still like to see him fight Pacman and Marquez fight Morales on May 5th. I can still dream can't I?

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My issue with mayweather vs anyone is that he honestly cant be beat by any of these guys, not even martinez, martinez is a case of a fighter who looks impressive agaisnt certain guys, mayweather will win, and thats the hardest fight out there for him.

as far as ortiz? why bother? hopefully if berto wins itll atleast be fun to see that, but i say berto gets ko'ed.

Kirlkland, is a sucker for counters, not the first puncher maywaether fought

i would like a cotto fight cuz i am picking him to win(against margarito), but that might be pacqious leftovers in mays eyes

id love a fight with khan, still floyd by ko thou

final thoughts really, itll be fun to watch anyone of these, but dammit i want pacqiou-mayweather and i think we all need to sign a petition for it, those seem to be working lately

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If thats the case then whats the point of him fighting anyone at all? I dont think every fight has to be the "lets watch him lose" fight. When it comes to elite level fighters, or any other fighter you follow for this case, we want to see how they will react to certain things. Yes, Floyd would beat Khan, but the speed of Khan would give him issues, yes Floyd beats Martinez, but Martinez's style, power, and speed, make it fun to watch.

At this point in boxing where everything is all haywire, we gotta take what we can get and GD forbid its another Ortiz fight!

Why is Cotto's name always missing from these lists?:o

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Originally Posted by Taffturner

Id love to see floyd v martinez....... It wont happen tho as mayweather doesnt take fights that risky!!

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neither does Pacman

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Id love to see floyd v martinez....... It wont happen tho as mayweather doesnt take fights that risky!!

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neither does Pacman

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A paintiing in a museum hears more ridiculous comments than anything else in the world.

Pacquaio's last 10 fights since 2007

Barrera
Marquez
Diaz
De la Hoya
Hatton
Clottey
Cotto
Margarito
Mosley
Marquez

His previous 4 fights in 2006 included two KO wins over Erik Morales who is the last man to beat him in 2005! Yep, Pacquaio takes no risks at all:rolleyes:

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Id love to see floyd v martinez....... It wont happen tho as mayweather doesnt take fights that risky!!

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neither does Pacman

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A paintiing in a museum hears more ridiculous comments than anything else in the world.

Pacquaio's last 10 fights since 2007

Barrera
Marquez
Diaz
De la Hoya
Hatton
Clottey
Cotto
Margarito
Mosley
Marquez

His previous 4 fights in 2006 included two KO wins over Erik Morales who is the last man to beat him in 2005! Yep, Pacquaio takes no risks at all:rolleyes:

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With the exception of the 38 yo Marquez, who Floyd totally dominated, just about every fighter you named was washed up when he fought them.

Nice names but not when they fought Pacman dude. :rolleyes:

Can very likely see it being Ortiz or Berto, i would be pissed of Ortiz got another shot at Floyd he doesn't deserve it.

I would love a khan Mayweather showdown, that would be one to watch for sure!!

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Originally Posted by Taffturner

Id love to see floyd v martinez....... It wont happen tho as mayweather doesnt take fights that risky!!

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neither does Pacman

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A paintiing in a museum hears more ridiculous comments than anything else in the world.

Pacquaio's last 10 fights since 2007

Barrera
Marquez
Diaz
De la Hoya
Hatton
Clottey
Cotto
Margarito
Mosley
Marquez

His previous 4 fights in 2006 included two KO wins over Erik Morales who is the last man to beat him in 2005! Yep, Pacquaio takes no risks at all:rolleyes:

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Diaz is no risk, he's always been a shit fighter who had one nice come back from behind lucky ko, he was given a gift against a shot Morales, and then barely kept his title to an unknown right before fighting Manny

Marquez should be 3-0 against Pacquiao, and it's obvious that Manny has still tried to nitpick when to face him, the thing is it's backfired in both the 2nd and 3rd fights

Barrera, the first win was as clear cut and a clean win in Pacquiao's favor, no questions asked, second fight Barrera was already on the slide and showed up to get a paycheck

DLH, as it is known Roach has himself stated that he only took the fight because he knew that DLH was on the slide and wouldn't cut down to 147 effectively, once he saw the needle marking from Oscar re-hydrating himself he told Manny to go after him, so how much credit should Manny really get for beating a weight drained corpse?

Hatton, although he looked to have been slipping he had put up one of his better displays since losing to Mayweather (Malignaggi fight), the 2nd round KO is a legit as any and no excuses to really be made

Cotto, although it's another example of Pacquiao going after a guy after a so-so showing, seeing how Manny called him out right after Cotto's somewhat weak showing against Clottey, Cotto looked to be in great shape on fight night and has looked good in fights after the loss, Cotto basically had no corner against Manny but that's Miguel's agenda not Pacquiao's

Clottey, he basically picked to fight the guy who had just lost to the guy who had just lost to him :-X, no real risk there sorry, especially after you saw the "fight" that Clottey put up

Margarito, looked like shit in his comeback fight against a journeyman, and then called for a catchweight, but went on to beat the shit out of him for 11 of the 12 rounds

Mosley, no risk involved here what so ever, apart from a lucky right hand that wobbled Mayweather, Mosley had just had his ass handed to him by Mayweather for every round, including the same round that Mayweather was stunned in, the fact that Pacquiao took him on a year afterwards only emphasizes how further shot Mosley was when he stepped in the ring

so he's taken "calculated risks" at the very best since moving up, like i said in another thread, smoke and mirrors for the most part

Fighting the Cotto - Margarito winner will be nice. But I read in the other thread that fight is likely to be in jeopardy. If that fight does not go through, then I wish Floyd goes directly and fight Cotto.

Mayweather can, also, call out Pacquiao since he's ripe for the picking now. This is to shut up those who might think that he's still ducking this version of the Pacman.

Other than those (I don't think Martinez has ever been an option for him), then there is no point but to milk the spectators.

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Fighting the Cotto - Margarito winner will be nice. But I read in the other thread that fight is likely to be in jeopardy. If that fight does not go through, then I wish Floyd goes directly and fight Cotto.

Mayweather can, also, call out Pacquiao since he's ripe for the picking now. This is to shut up those who might think that he's still ducking this version of the Pacman.

Other than those (I don't think Martinez has ever been an option for him), then there is no point but to milk the spectators.

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Cotto/Margarito II isn't in jeopardy of not happening, it simply is in jeopardy of happening in MSG, they might move it to Cowboy Stadium, it's stupid that the NYSAC waited so long to ask Margarito for the eye exams, but yea, Mayweather is calling for Pacquiao and both Manny and Bob are turning their heads and acting like it's not happening, instead looking for a 4th fight with Marquez, I say Mayweather should go for any of the top guys at 154 or even Bradley

While its not likely to happen, if Floyd came into the 154lb division with a clinic/tune up on Kirkland and then went after Martinez and won, he would make a huge statement and silence alot of people.

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Originally Posted by Boxer4life

My issue with mayweather vs anyone is that he honestly cant be beat by any of these guys, not even martinez, martinez is a case of a fighter who looks impressive agaisnt certain guys, mayweather will win, and thats the hardest fight out there for him.

as far as ortiz? why bother? hopefully if berto wins itll atleast be fun to see that, but i say berto gets ko'ed.

Kirlkland, is a sucker for counters, not the first puncher maywaether fought

i would like a cotto fight cuz i am picking him to win(against margarito), but that might be pacqious leftovers in mays eyes

id love a fight with khan, still floyd by ko thou

final thoughts really, itll be fun to watch anyone of these, but dammit i want pacqiou-mayweather and i think we all need to sign a petition for it, those seem to be working lately

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If thats the case then whats the point of him fighting anyone at all? I dont think every fight has to be the "lets watch him lose" fight. When it comes to elite level fighters, or any other fighter you follow for this case, we want to see how they will react to certain things. Yes, Floyd would beat Khan, but the speed of Khan would give him issues, yes Floyd beats Martinez, but Martinez's style, power, and speed, make it fun to watch.

At this point in boxing where everything is all haywire, we gotta take what we can get and GD forbid its another Ortiz fight!

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i guess i see your point, theyre all fun to watch but i just wanna see an old fashion best vs best type of fight, kind of like a leanard-hearns ali- frazier match up, we def dont need ortiz again, mayweather wins hands down, we say how it will play out, no reason to see that again, i think itll be fun to see him agasint berto thou, the ortiz fight showed me that young fighters are def coming with more to the table as far as making the fight physical, and i know i am probably setting it up for headbutt jokes but thats not what i mean

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My issue with mayweather vs anyone is that he honestly cant be beat by any of these guys, not even martinez, martinez is a case of a fighter who looks impressive agaisnt certain guys, mayweather will win, and thats the hardest fight out there for him.

as far as ortiz? why bother? hopefully if berto wins itll atleast be fun to see that, but i say berto gets ko'ed.

Kirlkland, is a sucker for counters, not the first puncher maywaether fought

i would like a cotto fight cuz i am picking him to win(against margarito), but that might be pacqious leftovers in mays eyes

id love a fight with khan, still floyd by ko thou

final thoughts really, itll be fun to watch anyone of these, but dammit i want pacqiou-mayweather and i think we all need to sign a petition for it, those seem to be working lately

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If thats the case then whats the point of him fighting anyone at all? I dont think every fight has to be the "lets watch him lose" fight. When it comes to elite level fighters, or any other fighter you follow for this case, we want to see how they will react to certain things. Yes, Floyd would beat Khan, but the speed of Khan would give him issues, yes Floyd beats Martinez, but Martinez's style, power, and speed, make it fun to watch.

At this point in boxing where everything is all haywire, we gotta take what we can get and GD forbid its another Ortiz fight!

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i guess i see your point, theyre all fun to watch but i just wanna see an old fashion best vs best type of fight, kind of like a leanard-hearns ali- frazier match up, we def dont need ortiz again, mayweather wins hands down, we say how it will play out, no reason to see that again, i think itll be fun to see him agasint berto thou, the ortiz fight showed me that young fighters are def coming with more to the table as far as making the fight physical, and i know i am probably setting it up for headbutt jokes but thats not what i mean

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I agree a competitive fight to see who is the best is always what we fans hope for (and what MMA/UFC is doing) But boxing like alot of other sports now is not about that, its a business, its peoples jobs (look at the Cotto/Margarito face off, Cotto says it, why would I risk myself, "its just my job".) So in most cases we wont ever see the best VS best because its not in their best interest as business people.