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Most people thought he would have got eaten alive by Broner people thought the same with Katsidis. I personally thought Katsidis would have been too much for Burns but he did really well. After that performance say Burns never moved up in weight and fought Broner that night would he have put on a similar performance? Broner is powerful but I am thinking Burns would have given him hell. What are your thoughts on this??
Broner is not a one dimensional, come-forward at all times, block punches with its face type fighter like Katsidis.. so no, I still think Broner would have whooped his ass.
Broner would have made Burns look like a pedestrian.
Oh and another thing... Broner isn't a war-torn fighter like Kat...
Broner > Burns EZ
Yeah I think Broner would school Burns
Would have lost
Yes he would have lost but on top of that burns was at his worst agains katsidis I reckon
He would of been stopped in 1. Katsidis was already done. Win over him means very little
So the guy who had Marquez on his ass only two fights ago, the same Marquez who just beat Pacquiao, is "DONE" and Burns win over him, in his first fight at Lightweight, means very little. Shit talk that VD....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I'm going against the grain and say that Broner wouldn't have had a walk in the park against Burns, cause the same way everyone's saying that Broner isn't a one dimensional war torn warrior, well Burns isn't a chinny fighter who always came up short (apart from his one fight against Caballero) every time he fought a decent opponent
I think Broner is a bit overrated and we've seen him struggle against one dimensional fighters in De Leon, IMO Burns has enough boxing ability and resilience to take Broner deep and beat him by UD
ummm maybe because Marquez ruined Katsidis? Burns beat a badly faded one..Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagicianSo the guy who had Marquez on his ass only two fights ago, the same Marquez who just beat Pacquiao, is "DONE" and Burns win over him, in his first fight at Lightweight, means very little. Shit talk that VD....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
And your triangle theory doesnt work in Boxing and it doesnt mean anything.
It's true, Burns beating Kat dont mean much..
Funny nobody wos saying kat wos done before the burns fight!
That's what I was thinking, although I'm included in thinking Katsidis would beat Burns by stoppage I didnt for one minute think Katsidis is washed up. I still think he brings something to the table, we will have to see in his next fight. He has had a lot of wars though, maybe it has caught up with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by rosco1984
A fancied burns aslong as he survived the first 4 or 5 rounds. Did not expect him to control the fight with such ease.burns can't win with half the guys on this forum if he beats Marquez he's beating an old man,if beats michell he's beat un tested guy at world level.the guy can't win lol!am a big fan ov Mitchell also but don't know why he's had so much praise for beating murray a come forward fighter who isn't half as gd a fighter as kat!
haha so Mitchell was " supposed " to beat Murray from the beggining huh..Quote:
Originally Posted by rosco1984
I know for a fact that 95% of the fans picked Murray to knock him out...
I knew Mitchell was going to kick his ass though and I picked him.. Look at the Saddoleague for confirmation.
Yes. Tell me Katsidis didn't pay dearly for dropping Marquez. That knock down was the only positive thing for Katsidis in that fight. Marquez beat on him the rest of the fight. By the 6th round you could see Marquez taking whatever Katsidis had left out of him. That he would never be the same. Sure enough, in his next fight he's barely competitive against GuererroQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagicianSo the guy who had Marquez on his ass only two fights ago, the same Marquez who just beat Pacquiao, is "DONE" and Burns win over him, in his first fight at Lightweight, means very little. Shit talk that VD....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Burns barely beat a faded katsidis, barely, and ive seen many guys who had it a draw. burns was fighting at home though so ya know how that goes.
He is not an elite fighter.. We shouldnt even put him and marquez in the same sentence cuz it's kinda funny.
kevin mitchell is a british lightweight who can make some noise. Burns is second tier. id be shocked to shit if he could beat John Molina.
Ordinary fighter, this burns..
Don't forget Broner was seemingly beaten by Ponce De Leon- a guy that is 5'5 while Ricky Burns is 5'10 and i reckon he would beat De Leon . Broner's last victory was impressive , but this guy can get outworked if it goes the distance. Still, if the fight was outside the U.K , Broner would have to be a slight favorite to win
Dont agree. Thats easily said in hindsight. What if Katsidis comes back and has a good win again. Will we look back in hindsight again and say Burns win was a decent one?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaummm maybe because Marquez ruined Katsidis? Burns beat a badly faded one..Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagicianSo the guy who had Marquez on his ass only two fights ago, the same Marquez who just beat Pacquiao, is "DONE" and Burns win over him, in his first fight at Lightweight, means very little. Shit talk that VD....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
And your triangle theory doesnt work in Boxing and it doesnt mean anything.
It's true, Burns beating Kat dont mean much..
Fair point that one VD. Still think it was a good win for Burns though, especially in his first fight at lightweight. Katsidis barely laid a decent glove on Burns. Aside from Guerrero, no-one else can say that after they have faced Katsidis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseYes. Tell me Katsidis didn't pay dearly for dropping Marquez. That knock down was the only positive thing for Katsidis in that fight. Marquez beat on him the rest of the fight. By the 6th round you could see Marquez taking whatever Katsidis had left out of him. That he would never be the same. Sure enough, in his next fight he's barely competitive against GuererroQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagicianSo the guy who had Marquez on his ass only two fights ago, the same Marquez who just beat Pacquiao, is "DONE" and Burns win over him, in his first fight at Lightweight, means very little. Shit talk that VD....Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
lol your having a girrafe , katstidis is very handy. wasnt his best night against burns but credit to rickster and im sure mike would say the same. burns wanted that fight, broner didnt . whats that tell you? rocky martinez everyone said the same and ricky surprised everyone even his hardcore fans, but dont get it twisted burns has far from peeked , keeps fit as fuck. k i think broner although heavy handed would get taken to skool. im tempted to say broner would underestimate him like rocky martinez did but he obviously didnt otherwise hed have fought himQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Broner flash and brash, seen plenty like him a legend in his
own front room, Come's across as a dick head.?
Burn's nothing flash or brash just get's the job done.;)
Broner does come off as a real jerkoff who's hard to root for..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
I think his next fight with Eloy Perez is dangerous for him.. Perez can very will win that fight..
I think Burns workrate gives Broner a tonne of trouble. Does it mean he will win the fight??? I really dont know but id like to see it.
lol Burns is too slow and sloppy to compete with Broner and he's not going to threaten anybody with that minimal punching power.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
It's a huge mismatch.. That's why he ran away from the challenge and faced the easier , faded Katsidis instead..
The hell he hasn't. He peeked in the Martinez fight. It's all downhill from there. It's reason he's kept crap opposition since winning the titleQuote:
Originally Posted by scubastevelol your having a girrafe , katstidis is very handy. wasnt his best night against burns but credit to rickster and im sure mike would say the same. burns wanted that fight, broner didnt . whats that tell you? rocky martinez everyone said the same and ricky surprised everyone even his hardcore fans, but dont get it twisted burns has far from peeked , keeps fit as fuck. k i think broner although heavy handed would get taken to skool. im tempted to say broner would underestimate him like rocky martinez did but he obviously didnt otherwise hed have fought himQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
[QUOTE=Violent Demise;1042701]The hell he hasn't. He peeked in the Martinez fight. It's all downhill from there. It's reason he's kept crap opposition since winning the title[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by scubastevelol your having a girrafe , katstidis is very handy. wasnt his best night against burns but credit to rickster and im sure mike would say the same. burns wanted that fight, broner didnt . whats that tell you? rocky martinez everyone said the same and ricky surprised everyone even his hardcore fans, but dont get it twisted burns has far from peeked , keeps fit as fuck. k i think broner although heavy handed would get taken to skool. im tempted to say broner would underestimate him like rocky martinez did but he obviously didnt otherwise hed have fought himQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Co-sign..
Truth is, Burns is just a glorified fringe contender level fighter.. He wont amount to much at 135..
Burns certainly isnt slow or sloppy ask Martinez and Katsidis about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitalol Burns is too slow and sloppy to compete with Broner and he's not going to threaten anybody with that minimal punching power.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
It's a huge mismatch.. That's why he ran away from the challenge and faced the easier , faded Katsidis instead..
You sound pretty new to the sport.. Welcome, fella..Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollectorBurns certainly isnt slow or sloppy ask Martinez and Katsidis about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitalol Burns is too slow and sloppy to compete with Broner and he's not going to threaten anybody with that minimal punching power.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
It's a huge mismatch.. That's why he ran away from the challenge and faced the easier , faded Katsidis instead..
Certainly not new to the sport mate , certainly not looking for a slagging match either, but Burns is not slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaYou sound pretty new to the sport.. Welcome, fella..Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollectorBurns certainly isnt slow or sloppy ask Martinez and Katsidis about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitalol Burns is too slow and sloppy to compete with Broner and he's not going to threaten anybody with that minimal punching power.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
It's a huge mismatch.. That's why he ran away from the challenge and faced the easier , faded Katsidis instead..
Infact beating Katsidis and Martinez is better that what Broner has on his record...now am i right on that one?
ps: and to prove im a fair man...i read that the pic you have on your profile is your womans top half??...you are a lucky man , maybe i will get my woman to do that aswell lol..great idea
i aint been on this forum long but ive already identified you as the biggest shit talker going. it was broner that refused the burns fight. what planet are you from. also 1 thing burns is not is slow. give it a rest and dont come back untill you get your facts str8Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitalol Burns is too slow and sloppy to compete with Broner and he's not going to threaten anybody with that minimal punching power.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
It's a huge mismatch.. That's why he ran away from the challenge and faced the easier , faded Katsidis instead..
Fair enough.. Burns isn't terribly slow like Carlos Baldomir for instance but speed is definitely not his strong point.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollectorCertainly not new to the sport mate , certainly not looking for a slagging match either, but Burns is not slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaYou sound pretty new to the sport.. Welcome, fella..Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollectorBurns certainly isnt slow or sloppy ask Martinez and Katsidis about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitalol Burns is too slow and sloppy to compete with Broner and he's not going to threaten anybody with that minimal punching power.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
It's a huge mismatch.. That's why he ran away from the challenge and faced the easier , faded Katsidis instead..
Infact beating Katsidis and Martinez is better that what Broner has on his record...now am i right on that one?
ps: and to prove im a fair man...i read that the pic you have on your profile is your womans top half??...you are a lucky man , maybe i will get my woman to do that aswell lol..great idea
Roman Martinez himself is fairly slow and limited yet he was able to knock Burns down in the first round... Most fighters with reasonable speed wouldn't get caught by a slow, lead right hand so early in the fight..
And the reason why I say he's sloppy is because dude eats alot of unnecessary punches while switching from offense to defense. He doesn't switch modes with fluidity which is why he gets hit by shots he shouldnt be getting hit with..
I do agree that Burns has a better record than Broner though.. Not by much, but he does...
BTW thanks for the compliment bruh.. ;D
lol mannn GTFO ya snot snosed noob.. You are in no position to be telling a proven member like myself to " dont come back until you get your facts straight "...Quote:
Originally Posted by scubastevei aint been on this forum long but ive already identified you as the biggest shit talker going. it was broner that refused the burns fight. what planet are you from. also 1 thing burns is not is slow. give it a rest and dont come back untill you get your facts str8Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitalol Burns is too slow and sloppy to compete with Broner and he's not going to threaten anybody with that minimal punching power.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
It's a huge mismatch.. That's why he ran away from the challenge and faced the easier , faded Katsidis instead..
You a funny guy.. So it was Broner who ducked Burns huh?? lol Only dude who needs to check facts is you..
You better brighten up before you get your head flushed down the toilet filled with turd..
Here's a FACT
Adrien Broner slams Burns for ducking him
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaFair enough.. Burns isn't terribly slow like Carlos Baldomir for instance but speed is definitely not his strong point.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollectorCertainly not new to the sport mate , certainly not looking for a slagging match either, but Burns is not slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaYou sound pretty new to the sport.. Welcome, fella..Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollectorBurns certainly isnt slow or sloppy ask Martinez and Katsidis about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitalol Burns is too slow and sloppy to compete with Broner and he's not going to threaten anybody with that minimal punching power.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
It's a huge mismatch.. That's why he ran away from the challenge and faced the easier , faded Katsidis instead..
Infact beating Katsidis and Martinez is better that what Broner has on his record...now am i right on that one?
ps: and to prove im a fair man...i read that the pic you have on your profile is your womans top half??...you are a lucky man , maybe i will get my woman to do that aswell lol..great idea
Roman Martinez himself is fairly slow and limited yet he was able to knock Burns down in the first round... Most fighters with reasonable speed wouldn't get caught by a slow, lead right hand so early in the fight..
And the reason why I say he's sloppy is because dude eats alot of unnecessary punches while switching from offense to defense. He doesn't switch modes with fluidity which is why he gets hit by shots he shouldnt be getting hit with..
I do agree that Burns has a better record than Broner though.. Not by much, but he does...
BTW thanks for the compliment bruh.. ;D
BTW thanks for the compliment bruh.......... no problem mate i need to get this done monday when im off , just hope teh mrs is up for it lol
do you need to have many posts to get an avatar?
You no what I am going to say Bud, Burn's all the way.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitalol mannn GTFO ya snot snosed noob.. You are in no position to be telling a proven member like myself to " dont come back until you get your facts straight "...Quote:
Originally Posted by scubastevei aint been on this forum long but ive already identified you as the biggest shit talker going. it was broner that refused the burns fight. what planet are you from. also 1 thing burns is not is slow. give it a rest and dont come back untill you get your facts str8Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitalol Burns is too slow and sloppy to compete with Broner and he's not going to threaten anybody with that minimal punching power.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
It's a huge mismatch.. That's why he ran away from the challenge and faced the easier , faded Katsidis instead..
You a funny guy.. So it was Broner who ducked Burns huh?? lol Only dude who needs to check facts is you..
You better brighten up before you get your head flushed down the toilet filled with turd..
Here's a FACT
Adrien Broner slams Burns for ducking him