Pacquiao lowers share; fight likely

According to a report, from a newspaper in the Philippines:

Pacquiao said over the weekend that he no longer minds getting the smaller share of the purse as long as he gets to face Mayweather in the ring.

Now that Manny Pacquiao has agreed to a smaller share of the prize money, there is no other choice for Floyd Mayweather but to sign his name above the dotted line.

“I can see a flickering light at the end of the tunnel,” said Pacquiao lawyer Jeng Gacal, sounding a bit upbeat that Pacquiao’s latest move would finally persuade Mayweather to agree so the fight the world wants to see would become a reality in 2012.


Pacquiao lowers share; fight likely | The Manila Bulletin Newspaper Online

I've lost interest TBH now. The Pac vs JMM fight didn't exactly help to excite me about the prospect of Pac vs Floyd either.

If it happens, I may tune in though :-\


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I've lost interest TBH now. The Pac vs JMM fight didn't exactly help to excite me about the prospect of Pac vs Floyd either.

If it happens, I may tune in though :-\


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It's been frustrating not being able to see it, so I think a lot of fans have just said fuck it. I don't put too much stock in what happened in the Pac-JMM fight, Pac vs Floyd would still be a mega-fight that needs to get made and it would be great for boxing.

The most frustrating part is you hear rumors that both Pacquiao and Mayweather really want this fight to happen now, but it still languishes in negotiations... :confused:

I've lost interest in this fight as well. It seems like both guys want to get the fight on, but Bob Arum will probably get in the way of it. Bob works for Manny, it's not the other way around. He needs to tell him he wants the fight, and this is the only fight he wants.

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I've lost interest in this fight as well. It seems like both guys want to get the fight on, but Bob Arum will probably get in the way of it. Bob works for Manny, it's not the other way around. He needs to tell him he wants the fight, and this is the only fight he wants.

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At this this point there's no fucking reason why this fight can't be put together, so you've got to figure if it doesn't, there's got to be something fishy going on in one or both of the fighters camps.

Can only be a good thing if it takes at least one excuse away from PBF. It has dragged in a while but lets face it the fight will not let us down on our expectations. Its very rare that probably the two best p4p fighters in the world fight at the same weight and meet. Will bring so much extra publicity to boxing. Non-boxing fans will even watch or at least be talking about it.

With all due respect, I disregard ANY Filipino source for all things Mayweather/Pacquiao.

I've heard the most ridiculous things come from some of those sources..you only have to look at any article where a writer looks at things without bias to see a billion brainwashed Pactards flood the comments area with nonsense.

Obviously, I expect the bias but a lot of their stories are baseless. I don't remember the pot-split ever being an issue in the first place?

Yeah, I'm sure Floyd has mentioned outside of negotiations that he should be getting the lions share because of blah blah blah but this sounds like an excuse for the Pacfans when Uncle Bob throws a wrench into the negotiations to say "See! Chicken Gayweather Quack Quack Duckweather is still running away..Pacman even offered to take less money!! waa waa waa.."

I still don't see this fight happening as long as Arum is alive but we can hope..

Who really cares anymore. The fight is around 2 to 3 years overdue anyways.

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With all due respect, I disregard ANY Filipino source for all things Mayweather/Pacquiao.

I've heard the most ridiculous things come from some of those sources..you only have to look at any article where a writer looks at things without bias to see a billion brainwashed Pactards flood the comments area with nonsense.

Obviously, I expect the bias but a lot of their stories are baseless. I don't remember the pot-split ever being an issue in the first place?

Yeah, I'm sure Floyd has mentioned outside of negotiations that he should be getting the lions share because of blah blah blah but this sounds like an excuse for the Pacfans when Uncle Bob throws a wrench into the negotiations to say "See! Chicken Gayweather Quack Quack Duckweather is still running away..Pacman even offered to take less money!! waa waa waa.."

I still don't see this fight happening as long as Arum is alive but we can hope..

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Unfortunately I mostly agree with this. I'm slightly less pessimistic about the fight being made but if it doesn't, it seems like the blame clearly falls on Arum. Consider: wouldn't this fight have happened already if Pac had succeeded in leaving Top Rank for Golden Boy whenever that was?

P.S. These "who cares; I don't care any more" responses strike me as BS. Yes, this would have been more interesting before Pac looked bad against a guy that Floyd completely outclassed and embarrassed. But it's still easily the biggest fight in boxing and you will all be excited about it and watch it if it actually gets made. Stop fronting.

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With all due respect, I disregard ANY Filipino source for all things Mayweather/Pacquiao.

I've heard the most ridiculous things come from some of those sources..you only have to look at any article where a writer looks at things without bias to see a billion brainwashed Pactards flood the comments area with nonsense.

Obviously, I expect the bias but a lot of their stories are baseless. I don't remember the pot-split ever being an issue in the first place?

Yeah, I'm sure Floyd has mentioned outside of negotiations that he should be getting the lions share because of blah blah blah but this sounds like an excuse for the Pacfans when Uncle Bob throws a wrench into the negotiations to say "See! Chicken Gayweather Quack Quack Duckweather is still running away..Pacman even offered to take less money!! waa waa waa.."

I still don't see this fight happening as long as Arum is alive but we can hope..

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True, dat, Phillipino sources are for the most part totally unreliable, I was just hoping, that for once this might be true.
Like I said, if this fight can't be put together now, something very fishy is going on somewhere.

LOL I love that Pacs camp chose Marquez at a higher weight class thinking hed obliterate him and that it would make him look good. Instead it made him look terrible, beatable and very bad against counter punchers....thats what you get for trying to manipulate situations ;D

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Originally Posted by Althugz

With all due respect, I disregard ANY Filipino source for all things Mayweather/Pacquiao.

I've heard the most ridiculous things come from some of those sources..you only have to look at any article where a writer looks at things without bias to see a billion brainwashed Pactards flood the comments area with nonsense.

Obviously, I expect the bias but a lot of their stories are baseless. I don't remember the pot-split ever being an issue in the first place?

Yeah, I'm sure Floyd has mentioned outside of negotiations that he should be getting the lions share because of blah blah blah but this sounds like an excuse for the Pacfans when Uncle Bob throws a wrench into the negotiations to say "See! Chicken Gayweather Quack Quack Duckweather is still running away..Pacman even offered to take less money!! waa waa waa.."

I still don't see this fight happening as long as Arum is alive but we can hope..

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Agreed.

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LOL I love that Pacs camp chose Marquez at a higher weight class thinking hed obliterate him and that it would make him look good. Instead it made him look terrible, beatable and very bad against counter punchers....thats what you get for trying to manipulate situations ;D

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I don't put too much stock in Pac vs JMM III, if these two fought 3 more times, we'd probably still have a simular result. Marquez is a great fighter, who knows exactly how to fight Pacquiao, Manny will always have problems with him.
Even though some might think so, I don't believe that Pac vs JMM III tarnishes Pac vs Floyd, it would still be a huge fight, and one that I believe would be competitive.

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Originally Posted by Althugz

With all due respect, I disregard ANY Filipino source for all things Mayweather/Pacquiao.

I've heard the most ridiculous things come from some of those sources..you only have to look at any article where a writer looks at things without bias to see a billion brainwashed Pactards flood the comments area with nonsense.

Obviously, I expect the bias but a lot of their stories are baseless. I don't remember the pot-split ever being an issue in the first place?

Yeah, I'm sure Floyd has mentioned outside of negotiations that he should be getting the lions share because of blah blah blah but this sounds like an excuse for the Pacfans when Uncle Bob throws a wrench into the negotiations to say "See! Chicken Gayweather Quack Quack Duckweather is still running away..Pacman even offered to take less money!! waa waa waa.."

I still don't see this fight happening as long as Arum is alive but we can hope..

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True, dat, Phillipino sources are for the most part totally unreliable, I was just hoping, that for once this might be true.
Like I said, if this fight can't be put together now, something very fishy is going on somewhere.

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Don't get me wrong, I've read a few places that quote Manny as having said "I don't mind getting less" so that part is probably true but it's just the way these article titles are spun - "Pacquaio Lowers Share - Fight Likely" as though they are deep into negotiations and Pac has agreed officially to lower his share of the money. It was, as I understand it, just an off the cuff statement that Pacquiao made in an interview.

Also agree with Shza, I've said it before and will say it again, anyone who says they won't watch this fight or don't care about it anymore are straight lying. Two years ago would have been better but still the biggest fight in boxing.

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Originally Posted by Althugz

With all due respect, I disregard ANY Filipino source for all things Mayweather/Pacquiao.

I've heard the most ridiculous things come from some of those sources..you only have to look at any article where a writer looks at things without bias to see a billion brainwashed Pactards flood the comments area with nonsense.

Obviously, I expect the bias but a lot of their stories are baseless. I don't remember the pot-split ever being an issue in the first place?

Yeah, I'm sure Floyd has mentioned outside of negotiations that he should be getting the lions share because of blah blah blah but this sounds like an excuse for the Pacfans when Uncle Bob throws a wrench into the negotiations to say "See! Chicken Gayweather Quack Quack Duckweather is still running away..Pacman even offered to take less money!! waa waa waa.."

I still don't see this fight happening as long as Arum is alive but we can hope..

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True, dat, Phillipino sources are for the most part totally unreliable, I was just hoping, that for once this might be true.
Like I said, if this fight can't be put together now, something very fishy is going on somewhere.

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Don't get me wrong, I've read a few places that quote Manny as having said "I don't mind getting less" so that part is probably true but it's just the way these article titles are spun - "Pacquaio Lowers Share - Fight Likely" as though they are deep into negotiations and Pac has agreed officially to lower his share of the money. It was, as I understand it, just an off the cuff statement that Pacquiao made in an interview.

Also agree with Shza, I've said it before and will say it again, anyone who says they won't watch this fight or don't care about it anymore are straight lying. Two years ago would have been better but still the biggest fight in boxing.

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Who knows, it might even be bigger, 2 years ago, I honestly had little interest in seeing it, but I do now. Partly because Floyd has grown on me a bit, i've gone from being a serious hater, to appreciating him and what he's accomplished.

Like I said, should Pac-Floyd ever happen, Pac-JMM wouldn't do anything to tarnish it.

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Who really cares anymore. The fight is around 2 to 3 years overdue anyways.

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Agreed. If this fight happened when it should have pac may have stood a chance. But in his condition now, its hardly worth it.

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LOL I love that Pacs camp chose Marquez at a higher weight class thinking hed obliterate him and that it would make him look good. Instead it made him look terrible, beatable and very bad against counter punchers....thats what you get for trying to manipulate situations ;D

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Yeah that was pretty pathetic. Mayweather done the same to Marquez and came in overweight. It looks like we are just waiting for two manipulative pussies to have a superfight.
A real warrior fears no one and always wishes to fight on equal grounds to really see who the better man is.

I wish the fight had happened 18 months ago. This spring would still be better than never.

I aint lost interest... cant wait for Floyd to get sparked :):):)

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I aint lost interest... cant wait for Floyd to get sparked :):):)

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Damn right, that's what i'm talking about. ;)

overdue or not, Floyd will still going to get ko'ed.

I'd like to join the "fight's way overdue", "no longer interested" crowd.
Unfortunately, we boxing fans are easy to lure back.

Pacquiao and Mayweather could be in nursing homes...... and the announcement of a fight is going to generate PPV buys.

I just like to remind every who have posted here that Mayweather-Pacquiao fight's target's audience are not you guys :D


Boxing people is just a small percentage of the PPV buys Pac and Floyd are generating. a few people getting fed up maybe accounts to a few thousand.


The real target are the normal people who occasionally watch boxing. These people will surely jump and buy it the minute it is announced because of the hype no matter how overdue it is.

i am pretending at least 1.8M buys

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Originally Posted by Althugz

With all due respect, I disregard ANY Filipino source for all things Mayweather/Pacquiao.

I've heard the most ridiculous things come from some of those sources..you only have to look at any article where a writer looks at things without bias to see a billion brainwashed Pactards flood the comments area with nonsense.

Obviously, I expect the bias but a lot of their stories are baseless. I don't remember the pot-split ever being an issue in the first place?

Yeah, I'm sure Floyd has mentioned outside of negotiations that he should be getting the lions share because of blah blah blah but this sounds like an excuse for the Pacfans when Uncle Bob throws a wrench into the negotiations to say "See! Chicken Gayweather Quack Quack Duckweather is still running away..Pacman even offered to take less money!! waa waa waa.."

I still don't see this fight happening as long as Arum is alive but we can hope..

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True, dat, Phillipino sources are for the most part totally unreliable, I was just hoping, that for once this might be true.
Like I said, if this fight can't be put together now, something very fishy is going on somewhere.

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Don't get me wrong, I've read a few places that quote Manny as having said "I don't mind getting less" so that part is probably true but it's just the way these article titles are spun - "Pacquaio Lowers Share - Fight Likely" as though they are deep into negotiations and Pac has agreed officially to lower his share of the money. It was, as I understand it, just an off the cuff statement that Pacquiao made in an interview.

Also agree with Shza, I've said it before and will say it again, anyone who says they won't watch this fight or don't care about it anymore are straight lying. Two years ago would have been better but still the biggest fight in boxing.

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Who knows, it might even be bigger, 2 years ago, I honestly had little interest in seeing it, but I do now. Partly because Floyd has grown on me a bit, i've gone from being a serious hater, to appreciating him and what he's accomplished.

Like I said, should Pac-Floyd ever happen, Pac-JMM wouldn't
do anything to tarnish it.

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Lol you sure about that? Look at the posts above mine..people are already getting the "Pacquiao was washed up" excuses ready for if (when ;) ) Floyd KO's Manny. I agree with you that the JMM fight shouldnt take away from it because when has Manny NOT struggles with JMM? He struggled more than 2-3 years ago when people say the Floyd fight should have happenee so I don't see the problem.

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Who really cares anymore. The fight is around 2 to 3 years overdue anyways.

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Same view here. It WAS exciting, but I don't care anymore and haven't for a long time now.

May I remind you floyd is the BEST counter puncher in boxing today....marquez countered the shit out of pac, what would floyd do to him? 10 times worse while getting hit a whole lot less ;)

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May I remind you floyd is the BEST counter puncher in boxing today....marquez countered the shit out of pac, what would floyd do to him? 10 times worse while getting hit a whole lot less ;)

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True, the Marquez 3 fight has also destroyed my luster for the fight. I think Floyd beats him up and does so worse than he beat Hatton. Hatton could close the gap and spoil Floyds best work, Pac doesn't have that kind of gap closing ability and isn't going to do shit on the outside against Floyd and it isn't as though Manny has an inside game even if he were to get inclose.

Pac will get picked off and Floyd hits a lot harder than Marquez IMO. Stoppage in 9.

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I aint lost interest... cant wait for Floyd to get sparked :):):)

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What does pac have that floyd can't nulify? Not a thing if you ask me.

although i watched the news where pacquiao said he's willing to take less money just so the fight would push thru, tbh i'm not really that excited until both fighter sign on the dotted lines.

i'm still looking forward to seeing this fight coz though you can make the argument that pacquiao has problems with counter-punchers, marquez was there and stood his grounds and was willing to get hit. you think pacquiao barely touched him, then how did he manage to look like this after the fight?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6220/...80d2d2ae24.jpg

i don't know if floyd would be willing to do the same coz in his last fight when ortiz lauched a full scale attack floyd started backing up and that's where we'll have the difference. besides, in the jmm-pac3, manny seemed a bit lackadaisical even before he entered the ring. he seemed to be not his usual self for some reason. i'm guessing he's starting to lose his hunger to compete. he's always performed better when he's the underdog and when he's got something to prove. i think this fight if it gets made will bring out that spunk back in him. i believe floyd would still be the favorite but i think manny would try and die to get the win. that would make for one hellofafight!

Marquez looks like that after every fight though. You could stroke his hair and he would get a swelling. God knows what he looks like after some rumpy pumpy with his wife.

Apparently Pac was really pumped up for Marquez so we can't say he wasn't motivated. Just maybe Marquez has the blueprint finely honed and seeing how Floyd had no trouble with Marquez, you have a really hard time seeing Manny make much of a dent.

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May I remind you floyd is the BEST counter puncher in boxing today....marquez countered the shit out of pac, what would floyd do to him? 10 times worse while getting hit a whole lot less ;)

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There is a difference , Marquez has faught Pac 2 times before he knows his style. Mayweather doesn't.

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Marquez looks like that after every fight though. You could stroke his hair and he would get a swelling. God knows what he looks like after some rumpy pumpy with his wife.

Apparently Pac was really pumped up for Marquez so we can't say he wasn't motivated. Just maybe Marquez has the blueprint finely honed and seeing how Floyd had no trouble with Marquez, you have a really hard time seeing Manny make much of a dent.

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you really cannot compare marquez fighting floyd to how pacquiao would fight floyd coz of the styles. it would be better to compare the floyd-ortiz fight to how the floyd-pac fight could turn out. floyd would pick manny apart with better counter-punching and boxing skills early but if manny is on his game he could cause floyd some problems coz he'll keep coming at him or get knocked out trying. watch pacquiao-sasakul fight where all throughout manny was getting outboxed but unlike ortiz who mentally quit, pac didn't quit and manage to get the stoppage in the late rounds. that is the "old" pacquiao i know and i think it will turn up if this fight gets made.

note that all of pacquiao's losses and most of his worst performances came against fighters whom he's highly favored to beat, on the other hand most of his best wins are when he's the underdog and most people are doubting him.

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I just like to remind every who have posted here that Mayweather-Pacquiao fight's target's audience are not you guys :D


Boxing people is just a small percentage of the PPV buys Pac and Floyd are generating. a few people getting fed up maybe accounts to a few thousand.


The real target are the normal people who occasionally watch boxing. These people will surely jump and buy it the minute it is announced because of the hype no matter how overdue it is.

i am pretending at least 1.8M buys

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That may be true, but I tell you what, this is a fight i'd definitely buy, and I buy damn few PPV's. Pac and Floyd need to quit squabbling and put this fight together for May, it's pure idiocy not to.

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May I remind you floyd is the BEST counter puncher in boxing today....marquez countered the shit out of pac, what would floyd do to him? 10 times worse while getting hit a whole lot less ;)

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I'd like to believe that Pac vs. Floyd would be competitive. Floyd would certainly have to be the favorite, but I just don't see him being able to dominate Pacquiao, who's got speed to burn, and throws punches in bunches.

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May I remind you floyd is the BEST counter puncher in boxing today....marquez countered the shit out of pac, what would floyd do to him? 10 times worse while getting hit a whole lot less ;)

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I'd like to believe that Pac vs. Floyd would be competitive. Floyd would certainly have to be the favorite, but I just don't see him being able to dominate Pacquiao, who's got speed to burn, and throws punches in bunches.

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This sounds somehow vaguely familiar ;)

One the factors that sticks in my head that could equate to an interesting fight. Floyd loves the ropes, he camps on them and I think Pac will have opportunities that were never there with JMM. Jmm used a lot of unique tactics that he developed over the previous 2 fights. PBF has stated many times he could care less about film or studying his opponent, he does what he does and makes adjustments during the fight. I think this will be a lot more competitive then the JMM/PBF triangle theory.

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I aint lost interest... cant wait for Floyd to get sparked :):):)

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What does pac have that floyd can't nulify? Not a thing if you ask me.

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If old man Mosley can connect and hurt Floyd you can bet a juiced up Manny can and more than just the once :)

Thats like saying mosely is better than pac because he knocked margarito the fuck out and manny couldn't... ;)

Anybody else think the timing of this stinks?... It's little more than a token gesture... Right before mayweather is due to be sentanced he lowers his stake?!

"what? He's in jail?! When did that happen?... Court hearing? Seriously? Today of all days?! Wow... So he's delayed his fight date? Aw man I REALLY wanted to fight him... Look I asked for less money and everything... How was I to know he was in court today? I'd have never said anything if I'd known!"

Translation: yipee... With floyd out of the way I can fight marquez again and make some dough... I just hope he finally gets old like I was hoping last time

(whether you think that was meant to be bob arum talking or pacman is up to you... Depends if you actually give pac credit for the decisions that get made... Personally I don't, he's 'just doink my yob, talk to my promoter, bob arum')

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