Robbery of the year...the fans have spoken.

Ring magazine put up a poll asking what the robbery of the year was...and the winner (or loser in this case) is:

Readers vote Pacquiao-Marquez III the "Robbery of the Year" for 2011 | RingTV

Marquez losing to PAcquiao was by far the number one robbery of the year as voted on by the public. Personally I don't think this was the biggest robbery and the fact that it was voted on so heavily just goe to show you that most people that voted on it were at best casual fans.

I really didnt see MArquez winning it to be honest as I think he needed to do more in the close rounds however after watching the "Decoding Marquez VS Pacquiao" video I really had to reconsider. That video really changed my opinion about some of the footwork Manny does that looks exciting but is really quite ineffective in putting him in a better position to attack and showed that Marquest really is a better ring general in their againt Manny.

I still dont think a 4th fight would do anything for either fighter at this point as if Marquez finally got the nod against Pacquiao it really wouldnt change anything except maybe knock Pacquiao to number 3 or 4 pound for pound and obviously take more steam out of Mayweather fight.

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Well I was expecting this to be named robbery of the year since it was such a high profile fight. While I do agree that Marquez won I don't think it was as bad as some others like Helenius VS Chisora. But like I said giving the popularity of the fighters and the event and promo that came with it. I can't argue with that fight being named robbery of the year.

Rosinsky-Rodriguez, 120-108 by all 3 judges was the worst judged fight of the year. Khan-Peterson was the worst refereed fight of the year. I am not sure if Mayweather-Ortiz, Hopkins-Dawson or Khan-Judah was the most ridiculous fight of the year.

Not surprising at all that got the most votes really.. Id say it's not so much a case of "casual fans" either, just the fact that to even be aware of fights like Helenius-Chisora or Williams-Lara at this point you need to really be a nerd about following boxing. The average fan wouldn't have any reason to follow that kind of fight and it's no reason to detract from their appreciation of the sport.

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Ring magazine put up a poll asking what the robbery of the year was...and the winner (or loser in this case) is:

Readers vote Pacquiao-Marquez III the "Robbery of the Year" for 2011 | RingTV

Marquez losing to PAcquiao was by far the number one robbery of the year as voted on by the public. Personally I don't think this was the biggest robbery and the fact that it was voted on so heavily just goe to show you that most people that voted on it were at best casual fans.

I really didnt see MArquez winning it to be honest as I think he needed to do more in the close rounds however after watching the "Decoding Marquez VS Pacquiao" video I really had to reconsider. That video really changed my opinion about some of the footwork Manny does that looks exciting but is really quite ineffective in putting him in a better position to attack and showed that Marquest really is a better ring general in their againt Manny.

I still dont think a 4th fight would do anything for either fighter at this point as if Marquez finally got the nod against Pacquiao it really wouldnt change anything except maybe knock Pacquiao to number 3 or 4 pound for pound and obviously take more steam out of Mayweather fight.

Thoughts??

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Pretty much the only choice. Whoever didn't have Marquez winning has no idea how to judge a fucking fight

I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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No, it wasn't a robbery. Having said that, I watched that fight at a friends house with a half dozen guys who don't follow boxing whatsoever and all but one person legitimately felt Marquez had gotten screwed after the decision was announced, more or less. Now that's not to say it was the case, just that it really did appear(to myself included) that Marquez won that fight by a good margin, and it was certainly as high profile as any bout that had gone down for a while. A few other fights were clearly worse decisions, but they didn't mean jack squat for the sport and only true boxing nerds would've seen them. Of course Helenius-Chisora was techinically a worse decision on the cards; but can it in fact be a bigger robbery than an actual prize fight that went the wrong way? I say no.

This was the only choice given how high-profile it was. Sure, there were worse out there but who cares really? Its all the same when the wrong man won despite the margin and this was the highest profile robbery out there. 116-112? I cringe just thinking about that scorecard

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Pretty much the only choice. Whoever didn't have Marquez winning has no idea how to judge a fucking fight

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By who landed more clean punches? effective aggresiveness? Whoever had Marquez winning drank too much, and let their heart get too much in the way of their mind. It definitely a close competitive fight, but their is no way you can give it to Marquez, he simply didn't do enough, and upon watching it more and more you see Manny actually getting the better of exchanges that looked good for Marquez on the fight night. Manny actually showed the better defense, and blocked a lot more than I saw Marquez get away from.

No chance.

ROBERT HELENIUS VS DEREK CHISORA ... ALL DAY

Chisora got robbed again...first in the fight, then in the voting for not recognizing him as victim of the year.

The first time I saw the fight I thought pacquiao won not by much but I thought he'd won. Then I saw the fight again SOBER because of all the controversy and I had Marquez winning by a wider mergin then what I thought pacman had one by. I honestly gave the closer rounds to marquez just because I felt he landed the cleaner punches and didn't look like an off balance fool most of the rounds. I'll watch it again just to make sure

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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No, it wasn't a robbery. Having said that, I watched that fight at a friends house with a half dozen guys who don't follow boxing whatsoever and all but one person legitimately felt Marquez had gotten screwed after the decision was announced, more or less. Now that's not to say it was the case, just that it really did appear(to myself included) that Marquez won that fight by a good margin, and it was certainly as high profile as any bout that had gone down for a while. A few other fights were clearly worse decisions, but they didn't mean jack squat for the sport and only true boxing nerds would've seen them. Of course Helenius-Chisora was techinically a worse decision on the cards; but can it in fact be a bigger robbery than an actual prize fight that went the wrong way? I say no.

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I can see how many thought Marquez won, (not me) but what I don't get is the robbery/screwed part.

Anyway, this horse has already been beat to death. :beatdeadhorse:

Well, the people voted..

Marquez-pac was the robbery of the year...

Marquez won that fight, I don't even care what anybody says!

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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This pretty much sums it up.

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Marx talking about " most people dont know boxing " is the funniest thing ive heard this week haha.

This is the same dude who said pac was going to knock marquez out early so of course this idiot will try to damage control by saying it wasnt a robbery..

marx's boxing knowledge is extremely limited..

C'mon.................. deep down inside, you KNOW it wasn't a robbery. Put on your objective hat on this one. You'll see what I mean. It was a close fight. End of.


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Marx talking about " most people dont know boxing " is the funniest thing ive heard this week haha.

This is the same dude who said pac was going to knock marquez out early so of course this idiot will try to damage control by saying it wasnt a robbery..

marx's boxing knowledge is extremely limited..

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Oh my, Finito-ElDumbass is talking shit about me because he thinks I have him on ignore, how cowardly.
You strike me as a 25 year old, semi-retarded "kid", still living at home off your mother's welfare checks.
Remember ass-wipe, it's not my fault that your mother doesn't know who your father is, quit trying to get attention from me. Now back on ignore.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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The post wasn't directed at you. I knew from your very first post ever that you knew nothing about boxing. It wouldn't surprise me if you had Pacquiao by shut out

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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This pretty much sums it up.

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I don't see the point in arguing about it, if most fans want to believe this was a robbery, whatever floats their boat, I just don't happen to agree.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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This pretty much sums it up.

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I don't see the point in arguing about it, if most fans want to believe this was a robbery, whatever floats their boat, I just don't happen to agree.

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There's an objective way to resolve this. Post a poll to see who everyone thinks won. If it's 90-10 Marquez, it was a robbery. If not, it wasn't.

Laugh @ this village idiot Marx getting tossed around again.. Lol

You couldnt resist reading my stuff so u actually put me OFF ignore. Your like a broad who cant stick to one goal.


alot of dudes on here be shitting on your boxing knowledge so it must be true.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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The post wasn't directed at you. I knew from your very first post ever that you knew nothing about boxing. It wouldn't surprise me if you had Pacquiao by shut out

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Why you haven't been permanently banned is a mystery, you contribute nothing to this forum but nonsense.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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The post wasn't directed at you. I knew from your very first post ever that you knew nothing about boxing. It wouldn't surprise me if you had Pacquiao by shut out

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Why you haven't been permanently banned is a mystery, you contribute nothing to this forum but nonsense.

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lmfao.. The word is out on you, Marx..

VD has more boxing knowledge in his pinky than you do in that old ass head of yours.. Stop pretending dude cuz we all know you have as much Boxing knowledge as a 19 year old Pactard..

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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This pretty much sums it up.

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I don't see the point in arguing about it, if most fans want to believe this was a robbery, whatever floats their boat, I just don't happen to agree.

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There's an objective way to resolve this. Post a poll to see who everyone thinks won. If it's 90-10 Marquez, it was a robbery. If not, it wasn't.

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Eh, why do that? If some fans want to think it's a robbery who cares?

More like, Marquez fans are the biggest whinners of all time...

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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The post wasn't directed at you. I knew from your very first post ever that you knew nothing about boxing. It wouldn't surprise me if you had Pacquiao by shut out

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Why you haven't been permanently banned is a mystery, you contribute nothing to this forum but nonsense.

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lmfao.. The word is out on you, Marx..

VD has more boxing knowledge in his pinky than you do in that old ass head of yours.. Stop pretending dude cuz we all know you have as much Boxing knowledge as a 19 year old Pactard..

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There's a group of you guys that stick together, isn't there.

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Sort of a "Band of Brothers", if you will.

That's all well and good. But once in awhile, individuality should prevail. In other words, say VD says something stupid. One of you guys should man up and say... "You know, I think VD just said something stupid." In my eyes, anyway, it would go a long ways. Not that it matters much, I know, but just saying....

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More like, Marquez fans are the biggest whinners of all time...

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Yup, and some of the dumbest.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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The post wasn't directed at you. I knew from your very first post ever that you knew nothing about boxing. It wouldn't surprise me if you had Pacquiao by shut out

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Why you haven't been permanently banned is a mystery, you contribute nothing to this forum but nonsense.

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lmfao.. The word is out on you, Marx..

VD has more boxing knowledge in his pinky than you do in that old ass head of yours.. Stop pretending dude cuz we all know you have as much Boxing knowledge as a 19 year old Pactard..

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There's a group of you guys that stick together, isn't there.

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Sort of a "Band of Brothers", if you will.

That's all well and good. But once in awhile, individuality should prevail. In other words, say VD says something stupid. One of you guys should man up and say... "You know, I think VD just said something stupid." In my eyes, anyway, it would go a long ways. Not that it matters much, I know, but just saying....

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More like a band of 2 LA retards, VD and FinitoElDumbass.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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The post wasn't directed at you. I knew from your very first post ever that you knew nothing about boxing. It wouldn't surprise me if you had Pacquiao by shut out

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Why you haven't been permanently banned is a mystery, you contribute nothing to this forum but nonsense.

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Why they haven't executed you like they do all them low life Texans like yourself is an even bigger mystery.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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The post wasn't directed at you. I knew from your very first post ever that you knew nothing about boxing. It wouldn't surprise me if you had Pacquiao by shut out

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Why you haven't been permanently banned is a mystery, you contribute nothing to this forum but nonsense.

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lmfao.. The word is out on you, Marx..

VD has more boxing knowledge in his pinky than you do in that old ass head of yours.. Stop pretending dude cuz we all know you have as much Boxing knowledge as a 19 year old Pactard..

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There's a group of you guys that stick together, isn't there.

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Sort of a "Band of Brothers", if you will.

That's all well and good. But once in awhile, individuality should prevail. In other words, say VD says something stupid. One of you guys should man up and say... "You know, I think VD just said something stupid." In my eyes, anyway, it would go a long ways. Not that it matters much, I know, but just saying....

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That must be why El Terrible never says anything wrong right?

Would a moderater or admin please move this garbage to Lets Get it on or the spam section

We don't need this childish crap on the boxing forum.

Thanks

I watched the fight with my brother. We are both Pac fans and wanted him to win so he could have the Mayweather super fight. Before the fight we watched the other two fights. We had the first fight a Pac win by a short margin. The second fight a win to Marquez by a short margin. However both could have been a draw.
The third fight we both had Marquez winning. We were shouting for Pac to knock Marquez out in the last round but he looked defeated. All the commentators saw Marquez winning even Khan.
I was shocked to hear there were so many people that agreed with the Pac win as I thought Maarquez won easily. It was like someone made a change to the Matrix.
I will go back and watch this fight again and count the punches landed but im only doing this because of some peoples rections not because I think Pac won the fight.

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Would a moderater or admin please move this garbage to Lets Get it on or the spam section

We don't need this childish crap on the boxing forum.

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Shut the fuck up.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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This pretty much sums it up.

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I don't see the point in arguing about it, if most fans want to believe this was a robbery, whatever floats their boat, I just don't happen to agree.

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There are a few ways to look at the term robbery though that are points apart.

One is outright number of points by a judge that are just totally deniable. (that sort of robbery says look at the judge put them back to school, He or she shouldnt be there when they are so far away from the other judges scores. (At least give them all a screen to watch if their sight is blocked for a large percentage of the fight cause of fighters in one corner.
(;) no excuses for it then).


The other could be from the top down like orders that if a fight is close we want such and such to win it because we pay you and will continue to, if our fights are made.
This type of robbery you wont pick by wide points but you feel it coming and you know why.

The other is home town or Champion advantage which is all total crap this is where fans get bad names when agreeing.

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I guess that just goes to show that apparently most fans don't know shit about boxing - Pac vs JMM III was a close fight, but there's no fucking way it was a robbery.

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The post wasn't directed at you. I knew from your very first post ever that you knew nothing about boxing. It wouldn't surprise me if you had Pacquiao by shut out

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Why you haven't been permanently banned is a mystery, you contribute nothing to this forum but nonsense.

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lmfao.. The word is out on you, Marx..

VD has more boxing knowledge in his pinky than you do in that old ass head of yours.. Stop pretending dude cuz we all know you have as much Boxing knowledge as a 19 year old Pactard..

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There's a group of you guys that stick together, isn't there.

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Sort of a "Band of Brothers", if you will.

That's all well and good. But once in awhile, individuality should prevail. In other words, say VD says something stupid. One of you guys should man up and say... "You know, I think VD just said something stupid." In my eyes, anyway, it would go a long ways. Not that it matters much, I know, but just saying....

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More like a band of 2 LA retards, VD and FinitoElDumbass.

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Some people bust others balls here all time over stuff its all in fun. If you take the bait and bite back they love it ;).

I'll make a deal with you (not that you drew first blood here).
You remove that comment that falls into the same category and I will remove the other posts.

Then the rest of us can see the topic here in the boxing section where it belongs.

Most laugh when others try to take them down in public, because they see its also seen by the larger majority of posters as a cheap attempt by the attacker at bettering themselves at someones elses expense.;D

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Some people bust others balls here all time over stuff its all in fun. If you take the bait and bite back they love it ;).

I'll make a deal with you (not that you drew first blood here).
You remove that comment that falls into the same category and I will remove the other posts.

Then the rest of us can see the topic here in the boxing section where it belongs.

Most laugh when others try to take them down in public, because they see its also seen by the larger majority of posters as a cheap attempt by the attacker at bettering themselves at someones elses expense.;D

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I'm not sure what you're getting at Andre, I asked that the thread be moved because FinitoElDumbass is using the it to troll and/or stir up shit, just like he did at East Side Boxing. All it takes is a couple idiots like him and VD to eventually ruin a forum, I've already seen it happen a couple times elsewhere. The good/contributing posters eventually all leave or quit posting and the forum turns into a playground for kids and idiots.

Marx, id appreciate it if you stopped gossiping about me like a little hoe. You are a senior citizen dude so act like one. Grown men dont cry to the mods. I havent posted on this thread since yesterday so I dont know wht youd still talk about me like a dwelling hoe.


and stop acting like u know me dude cuz I dont even post on esb.. im not sure why this old man is so rattled but grow some balls, old man

Nobody is trolling here.. We are only shitting on your limited boxing knowledge cuz u say alot of shit that a novice would.

You sound like a coward rat.. Just dont mention my name and you wont get a reply from me.. Your a grandpa dude, seriously be a man, not a hoe.

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Marx, id appreciate it if you stopped gossiping about me like a little hoe. You are a senior citizen dude so act like one. Grown men dont cry to the mods. I havent posted on this thread since yesterday so I dont know wht youd still talk about me like a dwelling hoe.


and stop acting like u know me dude cuz I dont even post on esb.. im not sure why this old man is so rattled but grow some balls, old man

Nobody is trolling here.. We are only shitting on your limited boxing knowledge cuz u say alot of shit that a novice would.

You sound like a coward rat.. Just dont mention my name and you wont get a reply from me.. Your a grandpa dude, seriously be a man, not a hoe.

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Andre, this the type of childish troll shit i'm talking about, do we really need that type of mentality here at Saddoboxing?