Re: 1 hour straight sparring
One of my fights, I was fighting my cousin, who at the time was the number two middleweight in Minnesota. It was a fight to the finish.
We went twenty rounds with out a break. Uninterrupted. One hour. I loved every minute of it, althought I was getting pounded numb. The only reason we stopped there was because I was bleeding all over the place, and he didn't want to hit me anymore. :lol: That was the first time I legitimately got my ass beat. I slept like a baby that night.
So yeah. People have went on for longer.
Re: 1 hour straight sparring
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Slim the BoxingManiac
One of my fights, I was fighting my cousin, who at the time was the number two middleweight in Minnesota. It was a fight to the finish.
We went twenty rounds with out a break. Uninterrupted. One hour. I loved every minute of it, althought I was getting pounded numb. The only reason we stopped there was because I was bleeding all over the place, and he didn't want to hit me anymore. :lol: That was the first time I legitimately got my ass beat. I slept like a baby that night.
So yeah. People have went on for longer.
You are full of shit. I was looking for serious responses to this from trainers/fighters etc.
Good story though amigo ;D
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Hulk
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Slim the BoxingManiac
One of my fights, I was fighting my cousin, who at the time was the number two middleweight in Minnesota. It was a fight to the finish.
We went twenty rounds with out a break. Uninterrupted. One hour. I loved every minute of it, althought I was getting pounded numb. The only reason we stopped there was because I was bleeding all over the place, and he didn't want to hit me anymore. :lol: That was the first time I legitimately got my ass beat. I slept like a baby that night.
So yeah. People have went on for longer.
You are full of shit. I was looking for serious responses to this from trainers/fighters etc.
Good story though amigo ;D
I'm not full of shit. :)
If I was full of shit, I'd have said that I'd have beaten the hell out of him. But I didn't. I got my ass handed to me by one of the only good fighters I've boxed. :cool:
Re: 1 hour straight sparring
In my experience, it hasn't been a great thing to go with a plan for doing so many rounds. Usually in long sparring sessions emotions run over, technique suffers and injuries occur. There are pros in our gym that go 15 or 16 rounds with 30 second breaks (particularly when the outclass their partners). I have seen guys getting ready for ten rounders go 6 rounds with 2 different high level guys (that was one minute rests). With your experience I would say 8 rounds is enough to get great conditioning and salvage some technique but even that is a lot. If you feel good during a given session you could always decide to go another round or two but I think you get diminishing returns after a point. This is a boxing opinion, I only did MMA for a short time and didn't love it but I got more gassed in that than I did boxing. Sparring at an outside gym is almost always rougher than sparring at home. I suggest more frequent, shorter sessions.
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Gocougars3
In my experience, it hasn't been a great thing to go with a plan for doing so many rounds. Usually in long sparring sessions emotions run over, technique suffers and injuries occur. There are pros in our gym that go 15 or 16 rounds with 30 second breaks (particularly when the outclass their partners). I have seen guys getting ready for ten rounders go 6 rounds with 2 different high level guys (that was one minute rests). With your experience I would say 8 rounds is enough to get great conditioning and salvage some technique but even that is a lot. If you feel good during a given session you could always decide to go another round or two but I think you get diminishing returns after a point. This is a boxing opinion, I only did MMA for a short time and didn't love it but I got more gassed in that than I did boxing. Sparring at an outside gym is almost always rougher than sparring at home. I suggest more frequent, shorter sessions.
Thank You very much.
I would be sparring boxing rounds with mma sparring partners essentially. Some are pros and some are amateur fighters. I completely agree a bout the point of diminishing returns. And I can't believe that amatuers and such are able to go 16 rounds, something isn't adding up. I wish I could spar less rounds there, but that is their program. I would have to do what their routine, and that is supposedly 1 hour of sparring, constantly changing sparring partners varying from 150 lbers to over 200 lbers, never sparring more than 1 round at a time with the same guy. Its going to be crazy.
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About twenty years ago, I saw something like that in a gym. They had a kid, maybe 14 years old, 112-115 pounds, that was pretty good. He'd won some 50 amateur fights and they were preparing him for a tournament. Every Thursday he'd be in the ring for two hours and he'd spar everybody, all the kids in the gym, up to a 25 year old 220 pound southpaw. Personally, I thought they were trying to kill him.
A dozen years later I saw, in another gym, the same sort of thing. This time, the guy that would spar everybody had been the national #1 amateur in his weight class and was preparing to turn pro. He'd spar with everybody, every night, and fight 'for real' 4 round sparring sessions on Saturdays. With him, it was just work because he knew how to fight (currently 13-2 as a pro) and rarely if ever took a clean shot.
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greynotsoold
About twenty years ago, I saw something like that in a gym. They had a kid, maybe 14 years old, 112-115 pounds, that was pretty good. He'd won some 50 amateur fights and they were preparing him for a tournament. Every Thursday he'd be in the ring for two hours and he'd spar everybody, all the kids in the gym, up to a 25 year old 220 pound southpaw. Personally, I thought they were trying to kill him.
A dozen years later I saw, in another gym, the same sort of thing. This time, the guy that would spar everybody had been the national #1 amateur in his weight class and was preparing to turn pro. He'd spar with everybody, every night, and fight 'for real' 4 round sparring sessions on Saturdays. With him, it was just work because he knew how to fight (currently 13-2 as a pro) and rarely if ever took a clean shot.
WOW :o
Those are some exceptional fighters. Seem to have a death wish on the surface.
I believe remarkable fighters can endure such a grueling routine, but I cannot believe that amatuer mma guys with 0 fights or 1 fight can keep up a pace. And EVERYONE apparently goes through this 1 hour straight sparring session on fridays and they go hard.
If it turns out to be true I know I'm screwed ;D:eek:
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I have sparred 10 two minute rounds with a minute in between and been relatively fresh at the end, i think i could have added another 6
but then added a minute to each round and half my interval would have been pushing it :)
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erics44
I have sparred 10 two minute rounds with a minute in between and been relatively fresh at the end, i think i could have added another 6
but then added a minute to each round and half my interval would have been pushing it :)
That is admirable. You were/are in good shape.
You know as well as I do though that there is a world of difference between 3 min rounds with 30 second rest and 2 min rounds with 1 min rests.
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See, when you hear stories about what some of these fighters have done, what I've done really isn't all that unbelievable.
Out of roughly 125 fights, only ten or so of them are memorable to me for something special happening. :cool:
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erics44
I have sparred 10 two minute rounds with a minute in between and been relatively fresh at the end, i think i could have added another 6
but then added a minute to each round and half my interval would have been pushing it :)
That is admirable. You were/are in good shape.
You know as well as I do though that there is a world of difference between 3 min rounds with 30 second rest and 2 min rounds with 1 min rests.
to be honest ive never tried 3 minutes and 30 seconds rest
i reckon adding another 6 to the 10 i did would have been a lot of hard work, id have had to have been at a peak to increase it in any way
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FTechnical? full contact? light? Body only? all will make a difference
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Howlin Mad Missy
FTechnical? full contact? light? Body only? all will make a difference
full contact, no headgear, 14 oz gloves, hard as you want to go.
They all go kickboxing, but I'm a boxer and thus only want to spar boxing, no kicks.
Now I learned that one of the trainers said you can sit out a round or two, and if the head trainer is in a good mood then its 1 hour of 2 min rounds, if not then its 1 hour of 3 min rounds.
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For that type of fighting I'd recommend 16 ozs, but 14'll certainly do. :cool:
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the point of sparring for 1 hour FC is?.....
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Howlin Mad Missy
the point of sparring for 1 hour FC is?.....
I imagine its to "toughen" guys up and get them used to fighting while tired. Increase stamina etc.
Myself, I think its pretty brutal and stupid. Just tears guys bodies down.
Gonna check it out myself next month, basically so I can challenge myself and spar better guys. Don't think I'll make it a habit of going though if its especially bad though. No sense in it.
I agree with your skepticism lol
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Hulk
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Howlin Mad Missy
the point of sparring for 1 hour FC is?.....
I imagine its to "toughen" guys up and get them used to fighting while tired. Increase stamina etc.
Myself, I think its pretty brutal and stupid. Just tears guys bodies down.
Gonna check it out myself next month, basically so I can challenge myself and spar better guys. Don't think I'll make it a habit of going though if its especially bad though. No sense in it.
I agree with your skepticism lol
Cant see the point in sparring for 1 hour, sparring you use to improve you technical side blocking countering footwork,combo's.
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Done frequently and that will just put wear and tear on you, but I can see the point in it.
It's one thing to be sharp when you're fresh, another when you're fatiqued.
You have to make much more of a concious effort to remain balanced and composed and you can't rely on speed as much to get to openings etc. It's also bound to build mental toughness and confidence in yourself (ie our club did a 24 hour boxing circuit for charity last year, just bag work and not really done as an effective session to build fitness... just for the challenge of it to raise money for chairy. but since doing it I know that I can be VERY, VERY tired and still dig deep and throw hard effective punches and keep a balanced and defensive posture)
Not saying I'd reccomend it, but I can see that you'd get something out of it.
We often do light sparring after a tough fitness session, it's a great way of forcing you to think. When your body can't keep up with your mind you have to ensure you're in range, pick good openings and don't leave openings when you throw.
I'd compare it to Roy Jones Jr in his later years. When he lost his foot speed and reactions the flaws in his boxing fundimentals at a high level became more obvious.
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OK... read a bit more of this. No head guard?!
For an hour?!
Fuck even Pros spar with head guards... and they don't even compete with them.
Sorry but that it pretty fucking stupid. done purposfully and objectively you'd get something from it. But this just sounds like prolonged 'milling'
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For an hour, a head-guard would probably be smart, although I didn't fight my long fight with one.
There are benefits, as Adam is stating. When I had my fight for one hour, it was exhausting and punishing. I was thoroughly whooped. Before that fight, I'd fought all my fights with a backpedaling stick and move way of fighting, similar to the way Ali would stick and move in the 1960's. I didn't know how to stay in front of a guy, keep my cool, and keep defensive while countering. It was in that fight that I first learned how to effectively cover up and whether the storm. It changed the way I fought forever, and for the better, as well.
It gives you confidence to know that you can go on longer than many people would think to be imaginable. I was never truly confident in my boxing ability until I took that beating.
