Floyd Mayweather says New York Knicks' Jeremy Lin in spotlight for race, not play - ESPN New York
Says NBA's newest sensation Jeremy Lin is receiving hype because of race and not ability, you know like what he said about Pacquiao.
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Floyd Mayweather says New York Knicks' Jeremy Lin in spotlight for race, not play - ESPN New York
Says NBA's newest sensation Jeremy Lin is receiving hype because of race and not ability, you know like what he said about Pacquiao.
Well if it's any consolation he is going to jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Floyd is a jackass but it's obviously at least partly true here. And there's nothing wrong with it. There's a novelty factor because there aren't a ton of Asian dudes from Harvard in the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Who cares. Everyone knows the guy is a prick. He is an up him self, wife beating, racist. The only thing in life he really has going for him is he is a good boxer and hes rich. When he is retired Lets see if that is enough for him to actually be happy. My guess is no.
Saying that Mike tyson is a prick but everyone seems to like him now. So who knows.
I actually think it's because of the underdog cinderella story not the whole racial thing. Now don't get me wrong the racial thing plays a minor part but more of the Cinderella story is the main story. Ever heard of the Kurt Warner craze in 1999? So was it because Warner was white or that Warner was the underdog that people love?Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaFloyd is a jackass but it's obviously at least partly true here. And there's nothing wrong with it. There's a novelty factor because there aren't a ton of Asian dudes from Harvard in the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
I think Floyd needs to shut the fuck up about other athletes from other sports that doesn't concern him. He's got his beef with Pacquiao but that's within his sport. Lin is an NBA athlete, people dont' need to hear his "expert" opinions on other athletes from different sports.
Maybe next we can hear Mayweather's expert analysis on the Peyton Manning situation.
Don't think lins race got anything to do with him gettin the covarage he is, but everything to do with that he was in the d league, plaed at harvard and put up better numbers in his five starts than the greatest players ever....think be same thing if it was a white, black or mexican dude
Yes what is Mayweather's take on that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogI actually think it's because of the underdog cinderella story not the whole racial thing. Now don't get me wrong the racial thing plays a minor part but more of the Cinderella story is the main story. Ever heard of the Kurt Warner craze in 1999? So was it because Warner was white or that Warner was the underdog that people love?Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaFloyd is a jackass but it's obviously at least partly true here. And there's nothing wrong with it. There's a novelty factor because there aren't a ton of Asian dudes from Harvard in the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
I think Floyd needs to shut the fuck up about other athletes from other sports that doesn't concern him. He's got his beef with Pacquiao but that's within his sport. Lin is an NBA athlete, people dont' need to hear his "expert" opinions on other athletes from different sports.
Maybe next we can hear Mayweather's expert analysis on the Peyton Manning situation.
I think the Lin story is big because he played at Harvard, not because he's Asian. I mean how many basketball players that play for Harvard are any good?
Floyd has a big chip on his shoulder about race.
A person's race shouldn't make a difference to anything but sadly it does and it's a very sensitive subject. Almost everything can be taken as racism and Floyd gets involved in it too often.
The bottom line is Floyd is very racial and very pro-black. Even if Lin was receiving publicity in part because of his race and in part because of his college, it doesn't indicate racist tendencies in society.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra
Not sure if we can say Floyd is racist when he trusts Mexicans in his team, has the big Mexican flag in his ring, etc. Doesn’t he have whites in his team as well? He does say things that sometimes are simply out of place of course.
He's got a Filipino too in his team. But that don't make him clean everytime he makes racial slur/comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
The ole "but, I'm friends with black people" line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
He's black. wadaya gonna do.. pure ignorance.. SMH
btw, name one black NBA player who graduated from Harvard... better yet, name one black player who graduated from a real University without some fake basketball scholarship.. lol ok then...
Does Jason Collins who graduated from Stanford University and used to be the NJ Nets center count?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Everytime I think this guy cannot be a bigger jackass he goes out and one ups himself.
This is way worse than what Floyd said. You think Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he's a great student? The guy graduated with a 3.1 GPA. I went to an Ivy League undergrad. You have to try to fail to get a 3.1 GPA. Or you have to be way less qualified than everyone else there. But sure, use this as a jumping point to trash black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Those of you claiming that his hype has "nothing" to do with the fact that he's Asian are full of it. I'm not saying it's the only reason -- of course not. But to deny that it's part of the story is absurd.
Since you're such a massive Floyd fan maybe you can answer why is he trashing another athlete that's completely from a different sport? He's also accused Jeremy Lin of using steroids also.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaThis is way worse than what Floyd said. You think Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he's a great student? The guy graduated with a 3.1 GPA. I went to an Ivy League undergrad. You have to try to fail to get a 3.1 GPA. Or you have to be way less qualified than everyone else there. But sure, use this as a jumping point to trash black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Those of you claiming that his hype has "nothing" to do with the fact that he's Asian are full of it. I'm not saying it's the only reason -- of course not. But to deny that it's part of the story is absurd.
People like the Jeremy Lin story is because it's mainly an underdog story. In '99 the Kurt warner story was much bigger, way bigger. So was it because Warner was white or because it's the ultimate Cinderella story?
I'm not a massive Floyd fan and said nothing that should lead you to that conclusion. I said "Floyd's a jackass."Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogSince you're such a massive Floyd fan maybe you can answer why is he trashing another athlete that's completely from a different sport? He's also accused Jeremy Lin of using steroids also.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaThis is way worse than what Floyd said. You think Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he's a great student? The guy graduated with a 3.1 GPA. I went to an Ivy League undergrad. You have to try to fail to get a 3.1 GPA. Or you have to be way less qualified than everyone else there. But sure, use this as a jumping point to trash black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Those of you claiming that his hype has "nothing" to do with the fact that he's Asian are full of it. I'm not saying it's the only reason -- of course not. But to deny that it's part of the story is absurd.
People like the Jeremy Lin story is because it's mainly an underdog story. In '99 the Kurt warner story was much bigger, way bigger. So was it because Warner was white or because it's the ultimate Cinderella story?
Your Kurt Warner argument is retarded. At the time he came up, nearly every quarterback in the NFL was white, so there was nothing special or interesting about that part of the story. You better believe that if he were a devout Muslim from the Emirates that would have been a big part of the story, along with the normal "cinderella" point.
Yes, it would be great on some level for everyone to be completely color-blind and not notice race. But you know very well that that's not the world we live in. I mean, we have Finito spouting off with racist bullshit in this very thread.
Kurt Warner's story is very much like this story. Undrafted, cut by multiple teams, played in another league, comes in when other guys are injured, leads the team to victory and puts up stats? Sounds familiar? The underdog story is the reason many like the Jeremy Lin story.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI'm not a massive Floyd fan and said nothing that should lead you to that conclusion. I said "Floyd's a jackass."Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogSince you're such a massive Floyd fan maybe you can answer why is he trashing another athlete that's completely from a different sport? He's also accused Jeremy Lin of using steroids also.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaThis is way worse than what Floyd said. You think Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he's a great student? The guy graduated with a 3.1 GPA. I went to an Ivy League undergrad. You have to try to fail to get a 3.1 GPA. Or you have to be way less qualified than everyone else there. But sure, use this as a jumping point to trash black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Those of you claiming that his hype has "nothing" to do with the fact that he's Asian are full of it. I'm not saying it's the only reason -- of course not. But to deny that it's part of the story is absurd.
People like the Jeremy Lin story is because it's mainly an underdog story. In '99 the Kurt warner story was much bigger, way bigger. So was it because Warner was white or because it's the ultimate Cinderella story?
Your Kurt Warner argument is retarded. At the time he came up, nearly every quarterback in the NFL was white, so there was nothing special or interesting about that part of the story. You better believe that if he were a devout Muslim from the Emirates that would have been a big part of the story, along with the normal "cinderella" point.
Yes, it would be great on some level for everyone to be completely color-blind and not notice race. But you know very well that that's not the world we live in. I mean, we have Finito spouting off with racist bullshit in this very thread.
In fact that comparison has been used by many media outlets. So race is a small factor. I didn't bring up the race shit your hero did. And let's be honest about you not being a Floyd fan as you claim. lol
Glad to see you backing off of your ridiculous claim that no one noticed that Lin was Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogKurt Warner's story is very much like this story. Undrafted, cut by multiple teams, played in another league, comes in when other guys are injured, leads the team to victory and puts up stats? Sounds familiar? The underdog story is the reason many like the Jeremy Lin story.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI'm not a massive Floyd fan and said nothing that should lead you to that conclusion. I said "Floyd's a jackass."Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogSince you're such a massive Floyd fan maybe you can answer why is he trashing another athlete that's completely from a different sport? He's also accused Jeremy Lin of using steroids also.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaThis is way worse than what Floyd said. You think Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he's a great student? The guy graduated with a 3.1 GPA. I went to an Ivy League undergrad. You have to try to fail to get a 3.1 GPA. Or you have to be way less qualified than everyone else there. But sure, use this as a jumping point to trash black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Those of you claiming that his hype has "nothing" to do with the fact that he's Asian are full of it. I'm not saying it's the only reason -- of course not. But to deny that it's part of the story is absurd.
People like the Jeremy Lin story is because it's mainly an underdog story. In '99 the Kurt warner story was much bigger, way bigger. So was it because Warner was white or because it's the ultimate Cinderella story?
Your Kurt Warner argument is retarded. At the time he came up, nearly every quarterback in the NFL was white, so there was nothing special or interesting about that part of the story. You better believe that if he were a devout Muslim from the Emirates that would have been a big part of the story, along with the normal "cinderella" point.
Yes, it would be great on some level for everyone to be completely color-blind and not notice race. But you know very well that that's not the world we live in. I mean, we have Finito spouting off with racist bullshit in this very thread.
In fact that comparison has been used by many media outlets. So race is a small factor. I didn't bring up the race shit your hero did. And let's be honest about you not being a Floyd fan as you claim. lol
And again: Floyd's a jackass.
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Originally Posted by shzaGlad to see you backing off of your ridiculous claim that no one noticed that Lin was Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogKurt Warner's story is very much like this story. Undrafted, cut by multiple teams, played in another league, comes in when other guys are injured, leads the team to victory and puts up stats? Sounds familiar? The underdog story is the reason many like the Jeremy Lin story.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI'm not a massive Floyd fan and said nothing that should lead you to that conclusion. I said "Floyd's a jackass."Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogSince you're such a massive Floyd fan maybe you can answer why is he trashing another athlete that's completely from a different sport? He's also accused Jeremy Lin of using steroids also.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaThis is way worse than what Floyd said. You think Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he's a great student? The guy graduated with a 3.1 GPA. I went to an Ivy League undergrad. You have to try to fail to get a 3.1 GPA. Or you have to be way less qualified than everyone else there. But sure, use this as a jumping point to trash black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Those of you claiming that his hype has "nothing" to do with the fact that he's Asian are full of it. I'm not saying it's the only reason -- of course not. But to deny that it's part of the story is absurd.
People like the Jeremy Lin story is because it's mainly an underdog story. In '99 the Kurt warner story was much bigger, way bigger. So was it because Warner was white or because it's the ultimate Cinderella story?
Your Kurt Warner argument is retarded. At the time he came up, nearly every quarterback in the NFL was white, so there was nothing special or interesting about that part of the story. You better believe that if he were a devout Muslim from the Emirates that would have been a big part of the story, along with the normal "cinderella" point.
Yes, it would be great on some level for everyone to be completely color-blind and not notice race. But you know very well that that's not the world we live in. I mean, we have Finito spouting off with racist bullshit in this very thread.
In fact that comparison has been used by many media outlets. So race is a small factor. I didn't bring up the race shit your hero did. And let's be honest about you not being a Floyd fan as you claim. lol
And again: Floyd's a jackass.
I already said Lin's race plays a minor role on the 1st page but not the main reason why the story is big, the cinderella part is. So I didn't back off anything.;)
It's true--we live in a racial society. However, just because we live in a racial society doesn't mean we should perpetuate the bad behavior of our past. To the contrary, we should celebrate and encourage diversity. Certainly, pointing out that Lin's Asian heritage has something to do with his new fame by itself is not wrong. Indeed, applauding Lin's success as a minority in the NBA may actually be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI'm not a massive Floyd fan and said nothing that should lead you to that conclusion. I said "Floyd's a jackass."Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogSince you're such a massive Floyd fan maybe you can answer why is he trashing another athlete that's completely from a different sport? He's also accused Jeremy Lin of using steroids also.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaThis is way worse than what Floyd said. You think Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he's a great student? The guy graduated with a 3.1 GPA. I went to an Ivy League undergrad. You have to try to fail to get a 3.1 GPA. Or you have to be way less qualified than everyone else there. But sure, use this as a jumping point to trash black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Those of you claiming that his hype has "nothing" to do with the fact that he's Asian are full of it. I'm not saying it's the only reason -- of course not. But to deny that it's part of the story is absurd.
People like the Jeremy Lin story is because it's mainly an underdog story. In '99 the Kurt warner story was much bigger, way bigger. So was it because Warner was white or because it's the ultimate Cinderella story?
Your Kurt Warner argument is retarded. At the time he came up, nearly every quarterback in the NFL was white, so there was nothing special or interesting about that part of the story. You better believe that if he were a devout Muslim from the Emirates that would have been a big part of the story, along with the normal "cinderella" point.
Yes, it would be great on some level for everyone to be completely color-blind and not notice race. But you know very well that that's not the world we live in. I mean, we have Finito spouting off with racist bullshit in this very thread.
What is different about Floyd's statements (now and in the past) is that Floyd uses racial identity to separate people. He points out race to disparage people or to boost his own racial group. It's divisive rather than inclusive; it's negative, not positive; it builds barriers between races rather than bridge them (this can be seen in some of the reactions on this thread that you pointed out). I would be surprised if you expected a positive response to Floyd's comments--I didn't.
Are you aware of Floyd's history of racist comments (see calling Emmanual Steward an "Uncle Tom" and referring to Pacquiao as a sushi-making yellow man)?
As soon as they come off vacation, They’re going to cook that little yellow chump. They ain’t worried about that. So they ain’t gotta worry about playing against a midget. Once they kick the midget ass, I don’t want you all to jump on their dick. So you all better get on the bandwagon now. … Once they stomp the midget, They’ll make that mother f—– make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice
Floyd Mayweather Accused Jeremy Lin of Steroid Use » NBA Sports News
Nah, dude isn't a bigot at all according to Floyd fans. You know the guy is just promoting his next fight which has nothing to do with Lin an NBA player.;D
Let Floyd have his fun, in a few more years, when the glory and his money are all gone, nobody will care what this clown thinks.
Wonder if he's just promoting his upcoming stint in jail and trying to make good with his new friends in lock up.
"yellow" and eating rice?! What a complete ignorant fooking sad clown.
There are Asian gangs is prison that would like to make him their girlfriend too. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
What !!!!!??? Floyd mayweather saying or doing something retarded ? No way ! Unbelivable. People please stop falling for this guys bullshit and being part of the money team marketing dept. Dude says and does whatever cause he knows he'll have a bunch of people on the net spreading his name across the internet without paying a dime for it. Good or bad it doesn't matter. Bank accts accept good guy and bad guy money. And judging by the paychecks of pac vs floyd the bad guy thing pays pretty good when you have a bunch of fans fueling his crap. Floyd could drown lil baby orphan rabbits for all it matters. If you can't beat him in the ring all the other stuff doesn't matter. Floyd would be racist one min and be a member of the klan the next if it paid enough. Stop working for the money team, outside of what he does in the ring screw him
In that regard, Floyd is the Larry Holmes of this generation.
Racist to the core.... but forgiven 'cause he's good.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying. As I said in my first post on this thread, Floyd is a jackass. Had I expanded on that, I would have said something along the lines of your middle paragraph.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt's true--we live in a racial society. However, just because we live in a racial society doesn't mean we should perpetuate the bad behavior of our past. To the contrary, we should celebrate and encourage diversity. Certainly, pointing out that Lin's Asian heritage has something to do with his new fame by itself is not wrong. Indeed, applauding Lin's success as a minority in the NBA may actually be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI'm not a massive Floyd fan and said nothing that should lead you to that conclusion. I said "Floyd's a jackass."Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogSince you're such a massive Floyd fan maybe you can answer why is he trashing another athlete that's completely from a different sport? He's also accused Jeremy Lin of using steroids also.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaThis is way worse than what Floyd said. You think Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he's a great student? The guy graduated with a 3.1 GPA. I went to an Ivy League undergrad. You have to try to fail to get a 3.1 GPA. Or you have to be way less qualified than everyone else there. But sure, use this as a jumping point to trash black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Those of you claiming that his hype has "nothing" to do with the fact that he's Asian are full of it. I'm not saying it's the only reason -- of course not. But to deny that it's part of the story is absurd.
People like the Jeremy Lin story is because it's mainly an underdog story. In '99 the Kurt warner story was much bigger, way bigger. So was it because Warner was white or because it's the ultimate Cinderella story?
Your Kurt Warner argument is retarded. At the time he came up, nearly every quarterback in the NFL was white, so there was nothing special or interesting about that part of the story. You better believe that if he were a devout Muslim from the Emirates that would have been a big part of the story, along with the normal "cinderella" point.
Yes, it would be great on some level for everyone to be completely color-blind and not notice race. But you know very well that that's not the world we live in. I mean, we have Finito spouting off with racist bullshit in this very thread.
What is different about Floyd's statements (now and in the past) is that Floyd uses racial identity to separate people. He points out race to disparage people or to boost his own racial group. It's divisive rather than inclusive; it's negative, not positive; it builds barriers between races rather than bridge them (this can be seen in some of the reactions on this thread that you pointed out). I would be surprised if you expected a positive response to Floyd's comments--I didn't.
Are you aware of Floyd's history of racist comments (see calling Emmanual Steward an "Uncle Tom" and referring to Pacquiao as a sushi-making yellow man)?
I don't know why I seem to be getting tagged as a Mayweather apologist here. I love his boxing; I think he's despicable as a person.
Floyd being Floyd...... an immature asshole.
Not a cool comment, but relatively harmless in the great scheme of things. It is nothing to get upset about.
I look at football and see how silly they are becoming with race and people have been conditioned to overreact to these kinds of things.
It would be better if people overreacted to serious issues like economic terrorism rather than Floyd's off hand comments on race which don't really matter.
You can call me a pale faced whitey as much as you like but it is silly to get upset by it.
ok pale faced whitey :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
;D
See, it's perfectly okay. I don't cry and you have your laugh and no harm done. It's just a colour and some of us have a different colour. If Floyd wants to be ignorant it is stupid, but it's not the end of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::ok pale faced whitey :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
;D
Floyd has done it before and it bugged me then but not anymore. If he wants to say Manny is yellow and eats rice then it shouldn't matter because it is true. It is when you take it further and say that black people deserve to be poor because they are lazy and like drugs too much, that is where it gets a bit murky for me. You can't really say that is true. In some instances it probably is, but it's too much of a generalisation. However it is a fact that most Asians use rice as a staple food. That is not controversial and neither is skin colour. They are just facts of life.
People get too hung up on the race thing IMO. I believe in the freedom to say what you like and if someone says something daft then people have every right to disagree, but you cannot force someone to just stop being ignorant. Floyd is ignorant and we all have the right to say so, but the media takes these things overboard. Is it really a controversy? Nonsense.
What do you do? Lock him up until he is forced to say that he thinks Asians are just as able to compete in sports as black people? Does it even matter? I don't think it does.
Silly thing to say by Floyd. He does enjoy feeding the hatred for him sometimes but then again, he's not the sharpest tool in the box.
I am in agreement with Gandalf though, no big issue here. He made an incorrect statement, therefore he's an idiot. Not racist or controversial. The "controversy" is because Floyd isn't very popular so it's another easy black mark against his name.
He obviously is racist, saying otherwise is just ignoring the obvious. While you can technically say pacquiao is yellow and eats rice, the undertone is blatant. Like if a white guy calls someone a black bastard, he may be black and he may be a bastard, but the intent is obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Althugz
I agree partly that with race issues, stuff gets blown out of proportion. But we're told racism is unacceptable, and if a white guy says something about blacks often society comes down like a ton of bricks. There should be consistency across the board otherwise whats the point.
But anyway, i do take pleasure in a way with floyds statements because people are only vitriolic about another race when they feel threatened. Asians have given him a complex somehow.
Miles you are as guilty as Floyd is of obfuscation. The issue is, you are so preconditioned yourself that you are not able to see the wood for the trees. You are so hung up with defending the concept of free speech that when someone utilises that same freedom to criticise Floyd for being dumb you accuse them of over reacting. Floyd tweetedQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSee, it's perfectly okay. I don't cry and you have your laugh and no harm done. It's just a colour and some of us have a different colour. If Floyd wants to be ignorant it is stupid, but it's not the end of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::ok pale faced whitey :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
;D
Floyd has done it before and it bugged me then but not anymore. If he wants to say Manny is yellow and eats rice then it shouldn't matter because it is true. It is when you take it further and say that black people deserve to be poor because they are lazy and like drugs too much, that is where it gets a bit murky for me. You can't really say that is true. In some instances it probably is, but it's too much of a generalisation. However it is a fact that most Asians use rice as a staple food. That is not controversial and neither is skin colour. They are just facts of life.
People get too hung up on the race thing IMO. I believe in the freedom to say what you like and if someone says something daft then people have every right to disagree, but you cannot force someone to just stop being ignorant. Floyd is ignorant and we all have the right to say so, but the media takes these things overboard. Is it really a controversy? Nonsense.
What do you do? Lock him up until he is forced to say that he thinks Asians are just as able to compete in sports as black people? Does it even matter? I don't think it does.
" Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise."
Coming from most people this would be seen as an oversimplification, FMJ saying it reveals it's true subtext, that despite all the other remarkable factors that make up the Jeremy Lin story Floyd is dismissing all of those series of remarkable achievements and is going to focus solely on the issue of race. He confirms this with his next tweet
"Other countries get to support/cheer their athletes and everything is fine. As soon as I support Black American athletes, I get criticized"
Jeremy Lin is an Asian/American and in a minority group in the NBA but because he is not Black, Floyd is not going to give him any support. He likens questioning Lin's high profile to cheering on Black athletes ? he is being racist. It is not silly to get upset about it, and your assertion that race issues in football are silly and people over react is symptomatic of you not understanding the issue. If you ignore peoples achievements and foster racial divisions with inflammatory language you are part of the problem.That goes for stupid snipes by Floyd and derogatory language by Suarez. Two ends of the spectrum but motivated by the same dangerous intent to reduce someone into a non-existent negative stereotype.
Him saying Manny is yellow and eats rice is like another person saying mayweather is black and eats fried chicken (my apologies for the comparison if anyone is offended but it was the closest steriotype I could use to get a comparison to Mayweathers comment and that would invilve his ethnicity). When it comes to race people get very upset. You can tell that Mayweather means what he says and like someone said earlier, he obviosly feels thetened by the people he is insulting.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSee, it's perfectly okay. I don't cry and you have your laugh and no harm done. It's just a colour and some of us have a different colour. If Floyd wants to be ignorant it is stupid, but it's not the end of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::ok pale faced whitey :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
;D
Floyd has done it before and it bugged me then but not anymore. If he wants to say Manny is yellow and eats rice then it shouldn't matter because it is true. It is when you take it further and say that black people deserve to be poor because they are lazy and like drugs too much, that is where it gets a bit murky for me. You can't really say that is true. In some instances it probably is, but it's too much of a generalisation. However it is a fact that most Asians use rice as a staple food. That is not controversial and neither is skin colour. They are just facts of life.
People get too hung up on the race thing IMO. I believe in the freedom to say what you like and if someone says something daft then people have every right to disagree, but you cannot force someone to just stop being ignorant. Floyd is ignorant and we all have the right to say so, but the media takes these things overboard. Is it really a controversy? Nonsense.
What do you do? Lock him up until he is forced to say that he thinks Asians are just as able to compete in sports as black people? Does it even matter? I don't think it does.
I am white and do not care to much about people being racist to me. It may be because my ancestors have not had the problems other races have had..
I dont condone what Mayweather said but nor will it upset me as you can see in general, just looking at people on this forum, people know right from wrong.
I also have racist jokes with my friends, some being asian, some gay etc. Just as long as you are comfortable with your friends and they are comfortable with you and you know they will not get upset.
I am the fat guy of the group and I love my friends taking the mik out of me. If they said nothing then they would be avoiding it all the time and that would leave me out of the fun. Of course coming out in public and saying something like mayweather did is very stupid. When you release a statement like that then you obviosly mean it. I would never make a steriotypical joke to anyone in public or who I have known for a short amount of time.
Aparently in around a few thousand years we will all be the same colour and talking the same language anyway so by then there will be nothing to be racist about. Only us fat dudes will be laughed at.;D
Is it really a big deal? There are positives in life and there are negatives. I just don't see the need to try and eradicate all negatives. They exist and it doesn't harm anyone because Floyd is supporting black players over those of other races.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzMiles you are as guilty as Floyd is of obfuscation. The issue is, you are so preconditioned yourself that you are not able to see the wood for the trees. You are so hung up with defending the concept of free speech that when someone utilises that same freedom to criticise Floyd for being dumb you accuse them of over reacting. Floyd tweetedQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSee, it's perfectly okay. I don't cry and you have your laugh and no harm done. It's just a colour and some of us have a different colour. If Floyd wants to be ignorant it is stupid, but it's not the end of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::ok pale faced whitey :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
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Floyd has done it before and it bugged me then but not anymore. If he wants to say Manny is yellow and eats rice then it shouldn't matter because it is true. It is when you take it further and say that black people deserve to be poor because they are lazy and like drugs too much, that is where it gets a bit murky for me. You can't really say that is true. In some instances it probably is, but it's too much of a generalisation. However it is a fact that most Asians use rice as a staple food. That is not controversial and neither is skin colour. They are just facts of life.
People get too hung up on the race thing IMO. I believe in the freedom to say what you like and if someone says something daft then people have every right to disagree, but you cannot force someone to just stop being ignorant. Floyd is ignorant and we all have the right to say so, but the media takes these things overboard. Is it really a controversy? Nonsense.
What do you do? Lock him up until he is forced to say that he thinks Asians are just as able to compete in sports as black people? Does it even matter? I don't think it does.
" Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise."
Coming from most people this would be seen as an oversimplification, FMJ saying it reveals it's true subtext, that despite all the other remarkable factors that make up the Jeremy Lin story Floyd is dismissing all of those series of remarkable achievements and is going to focus solely on the issue of race. He confirms this with his next tweet
"Other countries get to support/cheer their athletes and everything is fine. As soon as I support Black American athletes, I get criticized"
Jeremy Lin is an Asian/American and in a minority group in the NBA but because he is not Black, Floyd is not going to give him any support. He likens questioning Lin's high profile to cheering on Black athletes ? he is being racist. It is not silly to get upset about it, and your assertion that race issues in football are silly and people over react is symptomatic of you not understanding the issue. If you ignore peoples achievements and foster racial divisions with inflammatory language you are part of the problem.That goes for stupid snipes by Floyd and derogatory language by Suarez. Two ends of the spectrum but motivated by the same dangerous intent to reduce someone into a non-existent negative stereotype.
Korean people most typically support Man Utd as they have a Korean player. Is it really harmful or negative? I like Liverpool. Should I be upset that they are supporting Man Utd because they have an asian player? It is a support based upon racial bias and it exists. Floyd does the same. I just don't regard it as something to get upset about.
It is ignorant and should be called as much, but allow people the right to be racist or biased. As long as you are not banning asian people from your fights or refusing to fight asian people then I don't think it is such a big deal.
Our politically correct media makes a mountain out of these molehills all the time. It is my opinion and perhaps many will disagree with me, but I just don't see the concern. It isn't cool, but people have unsound views sometimes. Floyd has plenty of them, but that is Floyd. Hopkins and Toney too.
The mayweather's are classic bigots