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One week on did boxing really suffer from the Chisora Haye incident, you can't say it did put boxing back on the map for the right or wrong reasons, a week is a long time in boxing the media just the odd snip it.
Damage has been done but the repair's are under way,fights this weekend no incidents no brawls so we
could say normal service has resumed.;)
Yes and long may it continue until next time.
Damage done, only if they impose bans or sanctions on del boy.
I love boxing I just hate in inactivity of the top fighters, competing twice a year is no way for a athlete to behave no matter how dangerous the sport.
This incident has caused huge publicity, which means big money, how can you tarnish boxing's reputation, look at Tyson's antics yet he is a favourite boxer of many people myself included.
If there is any ban I would like del boy to have a go at UFC.
I don't get the feigned outrage over this...boxing has always had issues like this, its nothing new. Larry Holmes fucking dropkicked Trevor Berbick. Tyson-Lewis and Lewis-Rahman, had their scuffles.
Haye and Chisora are both classless, but its not exactly out of the ordinary for boxing.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Also, this story did not get any attention from even the mainstream sports press in the US, much less the mainstream press in general. No one here who's not a boxing fan already has any idea this even happened, so it hasn't had any effect at all on the sport.
Damage is done but it's boxing, a fighting sport, and these brawls happen.
That's it boxing is fighting sport, and the people taking part are fighter's we can all say it happens now and then when thing's get out of hand.being honest I've seen better brawl's in my local chippie.;D
Really?? You must be from Carl Froch's rough end of town then ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
who cares about these guys fighting at a press conference!
after reading and hearing people's reactions you'd think they were clubbing pregnant women and resuscitating them by blowing crack smoke down their throats.
boxing is full of absolute scum. cheaters, liars, murderers. the sport(if you don't know...) is only about watching people damage themselves and each other for your viewing pleasure.
its a disgrace to what? it sends a bad message to whom? shut up people!!!
It is a disgrace to the sport we all love.
It sends a bad message to the youngsters who think they can act a thug and the people that want to ban the sport.
So true , what example is that to set for the young kids coming through in our sport .
I'm sick of people who want this world to be perfect. It never will be. Actually, the way we go about it makes the world worse. A scuffle is a scuffle, and it should end at that.
Listen mate things like that do damage our sport .
They are boxers who have a responsibility to act like role models that they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
If that was in the street they would be arrested that is why Haye has ran to Las Vegas.
Boxing is like a new ceiling there's always a chance the rain will seep through an undetected leak.
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Originally Posted by MasterThey are boxers who have a responsibility to act like role models that they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
If that was in the street they would be arrested that is why Haye has ran to Las Vegas.
how can you possibly believe it's a boxer's responsibility to be a role model?
they make a living beating the shit out of each other and make a little money if they're really good. meanwhile, other people make lots of money off them hurting each other.
judges are often incompetent or corrupt. refs are often incompetent or corrupt. the titles are bullshit. your promoter is probably screwing you, his accountant too. its a massively crooked business...but despite the mess that is professional boxing, somewhere in there you think its a boxer's obligation to be an angel.
some kind of beacon of hope for who? for the children?
now if a boxer is a good upstanting individual who lives life right and is a role model great! good people are wonderful and the world would be amazing place if everyone were role models where we'd all live in harmony and life would just be so grand. but...i don't think its a boxer's responsibility to be that way.
elected officials, police, civil servants, teachers, ministers etc...they have a responsibility to set a good example.
how can you honestly say i just paid $55 to watch those two guys fight each other but the 2 punch dust up at the press conference was inappropriate and offensive, a disgrace to the sport.
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Originally Posted by MasterThey are boxers who have a responsibility to act like role models that they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
If that was in the street they would be arrested that is why Haye has ran to Las Vegas.
A fighter as a role model, most fighters come from the inner cities and high crime area's and act the part. Which fighters should I have my kids look up to.?? LOL
Every person has the responsibility to act as a person should act. Some people fall short. No big deal, you just have to let them deal with their own consequences. They bite themselves in the ass. They don't need us to do it for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThey are boxers who have a responsibility to act like role models that they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
If that was in the street they would be arrested that is why Haye has ran to Las Vegas.
It's a learning process. They should have been arrested. Chisora was. Haye is a lady, and can't handle being in trouble of any sort, so of course he would run to Las Vegas.
We expect people to be perfect. We can't do that. We've all got our flaws.
If you do not know and understand why then there is nothing I can really say that will make you change your mind, but I will try:-Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterThey are boxers who have a responsibility to act like role models that they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
If that was in the street they would be arrested that is why Haye has ran to Las Vegas.
how can you possibly believe it's a boxer's responsibility to be a role model?
they make a living beating the shit out of each other and make a little money if they're really good. meanwhile, other people make lots of money off them hurting each other.
judges are often incompetent or corrupt. refs are often incompetent or corrupt. the titles are bullshit. your promoter is probably screwing you, his accountant too. its a massively crooked business...but despite the mess that is professional boxing, somewhere in there you think its a boxer's obligation to be an angel.
some kind of beacon of hope for who? for the children?
now if a boxer is a good upstanting individual who lives life right and is a role model great! good people are wonderful and the world would be amazing place if everyone were role models where we'd all live in harmony and life would just be so grand. but...i don't think its a boxer's responsibility to be that way.
elected officials, police, civil servants, teachers, ministers etc...they have a responsibility to set a good example.
how can you honestly say i just paid $55 to watch those two guys fight each other but the 2 punch dust up at the press conference was inappropriate and offensive, a disgrace to the sport.
Boxing is more than 2 thugs beating each other up. It is a discipline and an art that takes years to perfect to be the best. These two are up there with the best and are high profile role models and ambassadors for the sport. There are people that look up to them. There are critics of boxing who want it banned and this further strengthens their case and finally there could have been a serious injury, if this is allowed to happen with no punishment then there will be a lot more of it and in the worse case scenario it could end up like wresting.
They are role models whether they like it or not, they are high profile professional boxers. I am not saying they make good role models but B Hop coming from jail is an inspiration, the talent of Floyd should inspire people, the impact of Pacquiau is huge. Not to mention greats like Ali.Quote:
Originally Posted by stebsQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterThey are boxers who have a responsibility to act like role models that they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
If that was in the street they would be arrested that is why Haye has ran to Las Vegas.
A fighter as a role model, most fighters come from the inner cities and high crime area's and act the part. Which fighters should I have my kids look up to.?? LOL
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disgraceful role model...
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pure entertainment!
Inspiration and role model is two different things, just because someone has some talentQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterThey are role models whether they like it or not, they are high profile professional boxers. I am not saying they make good role models but B Hop coming from jail is an inspiration, the talent of Floyd should inspire people, the impact of Pacquiau is huge. Not to mention greats like Ali.Quote:
Originally Posted by stebsQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterThey are boxers who have a responsibility to act like role models that they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
If that was in the street they would be arrested that is why Haye has ran to Las Vegas.
A fighter as a role model, most fighters come from the inner cities and high crime area's and act the part. Which fighters should I have my kids look up to.?? LOL
at anything does not make them a role model. Bhop, Floyd, ALI, Pac as role models, you must be crazy, not one of them could ever be a role model.
Racists + convicts + adulterers make great role models, maybe for you but not anyone I know.
Best watch your bike!Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzReally?? You must be from Carl Froch's rough end of town then ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Boxing is arguably the world's most corrupt sport. It is filled will all kinds of crooks - murderers, abusers, thieves, rapists etc. One tussle between a couple of meatheads and their entourages will do literally no damage to this joke of an institution.
If you live in area's manual jobs mining steelwork's,brickwork's it breed's tough people, work hardQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepBest watch your bike!Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzReally?? You must be from Carl Froch's rough end of town then ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
play hard, when you were out you showed people respect,if you did not you paid the price, Chisora
and Haye was more like come dancing to what I have seen.;D