We have a long weekend next week celebrating the queens Jubilee. I remember 1977 at school celebrating, not that I am a royalist but it was an excuse you have a good time.
What are other people doing?
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We have a long weekend next week celebrating the queens Jubilee. I remember 1977 at school celebrating, not that I am a royalist but it was an excuse you have a good time.
What are other people doing?
having a nice five day weekend - not drinking at moment so will be interesting
have vague memories of 1977. Seem to remember my mum taking to see queen as I'm sure she came to Leeds. I could be wrong
not a royal family fan
A pack of mints for you then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Going to take a day off and get happy and glorious.
You should have the day off anyway, public holiday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
How come you got 5 days off, we all the weekend and Monday and Tuesday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
It's a shame I am not home at that time as I would likely try to incite some public unrest.
Jubilee schmuk. I deplore it all and wish Brits would get some backbone on these representations of all that is undemocratic about our system.
Here but not in the rest of the world. Turns out it's a busy day elsewhere so I'm working.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou should have the day off anyway, public holiday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
It would be a holiday for the world if we still ruled! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingHere but not in the rest of the world. Turns out it's a busy day elsewhere so I'm working.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou should have the day off anyway, public holiday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
As a true radical and anarchist and proud former owner of a Mohican:rocks::britain::fyou:, I shall not being running with the herd, or following the sheep. Having actually been there and in honour of the Pistols magnificent tirade against English dreamers from the 1977 Jubilee I shall be celebrating the Jubilee of our her Maj. Like the Pistols, and "I mean it"Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
The Queen has her place and generates a massive income for this country, far more than she draws.
God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
What do you want Miles a Republic with a President as head of state? I think she is brilliant, putrid hats and all.
Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid
Have you ever even been on a demonstration? Incite some public unrest? these are the empty words of an armchair politician. did "they make you a moron"?;)
I shall be following the advice of Mr Lydon and having a nice picnic, weather permitting.
Now where is the butter:lickish:
For me its either Torquay, Southend or a Street Party at the end of my road.
Drinking a pint of irish guinness and eating some american hot-dog. Yay. :lickish:
I hate the Queen, I really do. I would much prefer it if Britain was a republic rather than the undemocratic nation that it is. The Queen does not represent me, nor my interests. In fact she endorses policies and programmes that I am vehemently against.
I see Yahoo now has a jubilee section on its main page. The propaganda is sickening.
I will stand proud as a patriotic Englishman by saying that the Russians had the right idea when it came to dealing with a monarchy.
I used to hate anything to do with the royal family, not a fan now but as I have grown up I have come to appreciate the fact they are born in to that life they haven't chose it. I don't like or dislike them, I just accept it.
People will never rock the boat in this country, the riots last year are as bad as it will get. As long as there's NHS, dole, other countless benefits, minimum wage, free housing etc everybody will be happy to go along with what the government says.
Most people know which side their bread is buttered.
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Don't bother. She's just a funny actress following the script. ;D
We're much better off with the monarchy than we would be as a republic. Plus they add a bit of class to the country. It's not like we're overflowing with class in Britain, is it? Much better off with them than without them.
I think they literally add too much class to the system. There are families that have inherited their wealth from years of pillaging of resources of other peoples countries. Working class people cannot get jobs as lawyers, mp's and bankers. It stinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
The Royal family do not add class. They represent all that should have been washed away by now. Master is right, Britain lacks class because of what the ruling elites have been perpetuating for the better part of the last 40 years. Social mobility is at an all time low. We are gradually moving back to serfdom and still the monarchy lords it over all.
Time for the pitchforks and to put them on Bonfires. Out with class and in with revolution.
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Originally Posted by Master
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
I agree social mobility is rubbish but that's not the royal family's fault. The only major country with worse social mobility than Britain is America where they don't have a monarch. Countries like Sweden and Norway are top of the social mobility table and have monarchies. The system in Britain and America isn't going to change because we don't invest enough in education like the high social mobility countries do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
The reason why do not invest in education like the high social mobility countries do is because Turkey do not vote for Christmas, it will stop their children from getting the jobs they have lined up for them.
This is what Turkeys think of RepublicansQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
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If the Queen was a patriotic Brit she would be with the occupy London types, but she isn't. She represents the status quo and readily endorses it. She's probably a nice old lady, but I don't care about that. I'm sure some nice people worked for the SS too.
That is a purile argument which you have clearly spent about two seconds constructing. She does more work in one year than you will probably do over a lifetime. In the real world your ridiculously short amount of hours worked, decent money earnt, whilst having your wife take responsibility for grown up things like bills, aligns you more with the fantasy image of Royalty you are imagining. Quite how being part of the occupy movement makes you Patriotic is beyond me. It is also laughable that you can sit in South Korea and lecture people on being a real Brit. You seem more out of touch than her Maj and come across as a far bigger and more spoilt Queen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Let me think
I have decided to work as am not losing money just to show respect for a woman who won't stand up for this country!!
What do I get in return??? Nothing. Bring back Edward long shanks
You get a reduction in the tax you pay due to the amount She makes in revenue for our country. As head of all the armed forces along with her work during the war, and the willing service of many of her children and relatives in the Falklands, Afghanistan etc there is not a lot more she could do to stand up for this country. Oh yes there is actually, she could spend countless days every year,despite being well passed retirement age, in representing this country abroad and at home. She kicks serious ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
No, it is a perfectly logical argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThat is a purile argument which you have clearly spent about two seconds constructing. She does more work in one year than you will probably do over a lifetime. In the real world your ridiculously short amount of hours worked, decent money earnt, whilst having your wife take responsibility for grown up things like bills, aligns you more with the fantasy image of Royalty you are imagining. Quite how being part of the occupy movement makes you Patriotic is beyond me. It is also laughable that you can sit in South Korea and lecture people on being a real Brit. You seem more out of touch than her Maj and come across as a far bigger and more spoilt Queen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I have done my share of grafting and living hard and have reached a stage where I can sit back and say what is mine is mine. I competed to get my job, the Queen certainly didn't. I pay taxes on my work, I do not take them. Furthermore what I earn is tiny in comparison to someone like the Queen. Her income is more on a par with a banker than an ordinary English person. I align myself with the ordinary Englishman, she can't. Lots of men let the wife organise the bills. It is hardly a Royalist characteristic. I cook my own meals 3 times a day and work. She doesn't.
I seem more spoilt, out of touch etc? What a lot of nonsense. I don't see how I am spoilt. I don't wear poncy crowns or specially designed clothes. I don't live in an assortment of palaces. I am a routine person, worrying about his declining standards of living like every other working man.
I also hate the argument that I cannot lecture on being a real Brit because I live overseas. I was born and raised as an Englishman and am the archetypal Englishman. Unlike the Queen I observe and state what I feel about the society I was raised in and return too sporadically (2 months this year).
I like this!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfNo, it is a perfectly logical argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThat is a purile argument which you have clearly spent about two seconds constructing. She does more work in one year than you will probably do over a lifetime. In the real world your ridiculously short amount of hours worked, decent money earnt, whilst having your wife take responsibility for grown up things like bills, aligns you more with the fantasy image of Royalty you are imagining. Quite how being part of the occupy movement makes you Patriotic is beyond me. It is also laughable that you can sit in South Korea and lecture people on being a real Brit. You seem more out of touch than her Maj and come across as a far bigger and more spoilt Queen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I have done my share of grafting and living hard and have reached a stage where I can sit back and say what is mine is mine. I competed to get my job, the Queen certainly didn't. I pay taxes on my work, I do not take them. Furthermore what I earn is tiny in comparison to someone like the Queen. Her income is more on a par with a banker than an ordinary English person. I align myself with the ordinary Englishman, she can't. Lots of men let the wife organise the bills. It is hardly a Royalist characteristic. I cook my own meals 3 times a day and work. She doesn't.
I seem more spoilt, out of touch etc? What a lot of nonsense. I don't see how I am spoilt. I don't wear poncy crowns or specially designed clothes. I don't live in an assortment of palaces. I am a routine person, worrying about his declining standards of living like every other working man.
I also hate the argument that I cannot lecture on being a real Brit because I live overseas. I was born and raised as an Englishman and am the archetypal Englishman. Unlike the Queen I observe and state what I feel about the society I was raised in and return too sporadically (2 months this year).
Very true sir, the queen is pointless and those idiots who enoy watching her like an episode of house are sickening!! I got more respect for hitler, Atleast he made a difference!!!! Killing Jews is no different from Americans killing Americans!!! I refuse to support her and her expensive tastes!!
Tax will never go down ever and if it does then it will go up double to cover the give away!!
By the way your vote will never count!!
Your also saying that she has power?? Well if she has power then she can disband the government and take control of England!!! Nope why do that when labour etc can bring taxes to pay for her maintenance and nice bullet proof choppers and mercs!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYou get a reduction in the tax you pay due to the amount She makes in revenue for our country. As head of all the armed forces along with her work during the war, and the willing service of many of her children and relatives in the Falklands, Afghanistan etc there is not a lot more she could do to stand up for this country. Oh yes there is actually, she could spend countless days every year,despite being well passed retirement age, in representing this country abroad and at home. She kicks serious ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
Don't ever tell me it doesn't come from tax payers
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Originally Posted by DropanukeI like this!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfNo, it is a perfectly logical argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThat is a purile argument which you have clearly spent about two seconds constructing. She does more work in one year than you will probably do over a lifetime. In the real world your ridiculously short amount of hours worked, decent money earnt, whilst having your wife take responsibility for grown up things like bills, aligns you more with the fantasy image of Royalty you are imagining. Quite how being part of the occupy movement makes you Patriotic is beyond me. It is also laughable that you can sit in South Korea and lecture people on being a real Brit. You seem more out of touch than her Maj and come across as a far bigger and more spoilt Queen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I have done my share of grafting and living hard and have reached a stage where I can sit back and say what is mine is mine. I competed to get my job, the Queen certainly didn't. I pay taxes on my work, I do not take them. Furthermore what I earn is tiny in comparison to someone like the Queen. Her income is more on a par with a banker than an ordinary English person. I align myself with the ordinary Englishman, she can't. Lots of men let the wife organise the bills. It is hardly a Royalist characteristic. I cook my own meals 3 times a day and work. She doesn't.
I seem more spoilt, out of touch etc? What a lot of nonsense. I don't see how I am spoilt. I don't wear poncy crowns or specially designed clothes. I don't live in an assortment of palaces. I am a routine person, worrying about his declining standards of living like every other working man.
I also hate the argument that I cannot lecture on being a real Brit because I live overseas. I was born and raised as an Englishman and am the archetypal Englishman. Unlike the Queen I observe and state what I feel about the society I was raised in and return too sporadically (2 months this year).
Very true sir, the queen is pointless and those idiots who enoy watching her like an episode of house are sickening!! I got more respect for hitler, Atleast he made a difference!!!! Killing Jews is no different from Americans killing Americans!!! I refuse to support her and her expensive tastes!!
Tax will never go down ever and if it does then it will go up double to cover the give away!!
By the way your vote will never count!!
Its the uniforms on people that is the biggest scam via state dealt self importance or group belonging. Straight away there are lines in the sand and who runs all the people who wish to wear them for good or other reason?
Yep someone living a fairytale with crowns and palaces guards and a sour history of deceit through their family.
All the same fuck them they deserve the live style, I wouldnt do it.
They do some good these days, Im all for the Queen remaining head of Australia, what the hell the whole planet is insane lets all run with it and see where it takes us. :cool: Tenn hup, forward hoe, weeee lets all march off into Her Satanic Majestys destiny. :lickish: ;D
Essentially my solution to the Royal problem is to lock them all up and keep the married ones apart and basically let them live a life of comfort and to die of eventual natural causes. It's not as if they have any freedom anyway. Then once 100 years is up they will have all been disposed and in a less bloody way than what the Russians managed.
It would be like a Guantanamo Bay minus torture and with an actual purpose. The Royal family could eat steak 3 times a day if they like. Give them HD TV too and a kindle each. Let them live out their days in peace and comfort and finally make Britain a so called democracy.
I don't even live in the UK and yet the Jubilee is all the global networks are talking about. It is gushing in a vomit inducing manner. It is truly sick. To think of all the money being wasted on this nonsense when people can't even afford their bills anymore.
Death to the Queen! And death to all who share her genetics and those who married into them. May there be a Republic and a demise of Labour and Tory and the rise of a new politics. A working mans politics that moves away from Europe, that privatises all key utilities. That puts fat cats in kennels and pig swilling toffs in ties out to pasture to assist the farmers.
I see the future in overthrowing all that is and in chiseling down Buckingham Palace in the same manner as the destruction of the Berlin Wall.
Enough I say. Rise people and revolt. Take to the streets and say no to to this pigswill indulgence and empty vanity. Shake up the system, insult the men with boobies on their heads, get drunk and incite riot and revolution.
They call us terrorists. No, we are the rightful people and are fighting for freedom armed with keyboards. We didn't inherit our wealth, we toiled and laboured for it and meager wealth it is too. The Queen works forever by choice. The rest of us don't have a choice. Enslaved into the system that she endorses.
We condemn you vile Queen and hope that you get an upset belly from all that caviar you swill down your aged and repugnant gullet.
Well if this bloke demanded a dna test for rightful inheritance it could get messy.
My bet is he would be dead so he is better off here with us.
Check mate, we have your real King.
And he likes us best ;D
Michael Abney-Hastings, 14th Earl of Loudoun
The Earl of Loudoun Pretender http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ireOpening.JPG Born 22 July 1942 (age 69)
Sussex, England[1] Throne(s) claimed England Pretend from 1 November 2002 Monarchy abolished Complex situation regarding Edward IV's alleged biological illegitimacy. Last monarch see above Connection with The Duke of Clarence Royal House House of York (non-agnatic line) Father Captain Walter Strickland Lord Mother The Countess of Loudoun Michael Edward Abney-Hastings, 14th Earl of Loudoun (born 22 July 1942) is a British Australian, who is most noted due to the documentary Britain's Real Monarch, which alleges him to be the rightful monarch of England instead of Queen Elizabeth II. He was born in England and educated at Ampleforth College in Yorkshire, but emigrated to Jerilderie, New South Wales as a teen, where he lives out life as a rice farmer and family man.[2]
The claim for Abney-Hastings as a pretender to the English throne relates to his descent from George Plantagenet as his heir-general, tied in with the alleged biological illegitimacy of Edward IV of England.
Contents
- 1 Early life
- 2 Claim to the throne of England
- 3 Personal views and family
- 4 Notes
- 5 See also
- 6 References
- 7 External links
Early life
Abney-Hastings was born in Sussex, England, to Captain Walter Strickland Lord and Barbara Abney-Hastings, 13th Countess of Loudoun. However, he grew up at Ashby-de-la-Zouch in Leicestershire where his mother is from, a town where one of his family's castles is located; Ashby de la Zouch Castle.[1] As a youth he was educated at Ampleforth College a private Catholic school in North Yorkshire, before moving to Australia when he was 18 years old.[3]
Claim to the throne of England
See also: Alternative successions of the English crown
In 2004, Britain's Real Monarch, a documentary broadcast on Channel 4 in the United Kingdom repeated the claim, disputed among historians, that King Edward IV of England was biologically illegitimate, and therefore that Abney-Hastings, as the senior descendant of George Plantagenet, 1st Duke of Clarence, is the rightful King of England. Were Edward IV illegitimate, his daughter, Elizabeth of York, from whom the current British royal family is descended, would be excluded from the rightful succession and Michael Abney-Hastings would be the monarch based on an unbroken line of Male Preference Primogeniture leading from William the Conqueror who became king of England by right of conquest in 1066.
Ironically in the most recent referenda for Australian political status, he voted for an Australian republic.
Personal views and family
Abney-Hastings is a committed Australian republican and has expressed no interest in pursuing his claim to the throne, although he is amused by it.[4] Abney-Hastings says he refrains from using his title publicly.[5]
Abney-Hastings has two sons and three daughters with his wife Noelene Margaret McCormick (they married in 1969).[6] His eldest son Simon Abney-Hastings holds the courtesy title Lord Mauchline. He is currently one of the seven co-heirs to the Barony of Grey de Ruthyn.
Should be assassinated.
Come back guy Fawkes you are always forgiven mate!!!!
Miles you are so puffed up with a sense of self importance that it is hard to take anything you say seriously. So ingrained is this idea that your views should take presidence that your own sense of entitlement far outstrips that of Royalty. You are suggesting that your minority opinion as shared by less than 20% of the population should trump the majority of peoples support for the Queen. As well as Toffs the biggest Royalists as will be clearly demonstrated by the thousands of street parties up and down the country , will be the working class. The queasy middle class such as you are uncomfortable with such grass roots support and unable to fit in, strike out. You can call us Chavs till you are blue in the face but the reality is that your bland and sickening Republican ideal is a pipe dream that would diminish the historical and cultural heritage that makes Britain great. It is also absolutely undemocratic and serves the agenda of a handful of party pooping bah humbugs eager to make the United Kingdom into some unholy amalgamation of France and the USA.
And what have you actually done about so far?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I bet you've got tons of 'backbone'.
Re the thread. I'll just spend the day with my wife and kids and treat it as a bonus day off.i doubt I'll watch any of the coverage on telly.
Miles puffed up Beanz never bit :gay5: may be but puffed up well I never.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
He has actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lennox EubankAnd what have you actually done about so far?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I bet you've got tons of 'backbone'.
Miles is 6 feet 6 or there abouts.
Also smashed his wives rice cooker right under her cute little nose and he hip and shoulders masses of ignorant Koren pedestrians out of his way on his way to work each day.
Leaps rancid corgis in a single bound.
Look is it a bird, is it a plane, is it excommunicate ghost of Oscar Wilde?