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Don't think he should go for an immediate rematch
But he had it in the initial contract so why not
Froch ko8
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Dont know how to add the link but it's on sky sports
Don't think he should go for an immediate rematch
But he had it in the initial contract so why not
Froch ko8
He may be starting to feel better a week after the event, but he made a contract for a rematch in Canada
I can see him getting pretty much the same result. Froch will over power him he does not have much resiliency to take hard shot's. I'm afraid Froch has that mental edge over him the stop edge is a major factor going into the rematch no mater what Bute has to say.:)
Has a fighter who was so thoroughly dominated in the first fight ever gone on to win a rematch?
Being in Montreal won't do shit to help Bute, but the fans will probably burn a few cop cars once he gets knocked out again.
Aye he's just out the hospital haha
froch does have his number now
But I think bute has to take the rematch as it was well documented the was one in the contract,he would look a bit of a tit if he was to knock back the chance to get his titles back
Well say what ya want but bute got some cahonjes to wana go in there again after that. He better ask for a thirthy by thirthy ring and be prepared to run a marathon, but even then he probably gets tiered before froch and sparked. I guesss this prevents froch kess 2 which sucks because I would rather see that and bute could fight a confidence builder in mean time
Agree 100% armin
I have faith that he will do better in a rematch. I still cant get over how dumb he fought. Standing right in front of Carl.
I believe that the rematch would be different too but I also think he should fight somebody elses before, at least one fight.
Agreed. I have massive respect for the guy wanting a rematch after a beating like that. You never know what could happen if Bute trains hard enough and comes in with a different stratergy. From what happened you would expect Froch to win again but you never know.
All I know is that if Froch does the same to him again he wont have many options out there for other fights accept if a top fighter wants someone with a good looking record on there list of wins.
I think for him now its mainly about saving face (and making a pile of cash). This wasnt just your ordinary rematch clause, the deal was more or less made as a 2 fight deal whatever were to happen. I reckon that if this happens he goes into the rematch just to survive and then hides out in Canada for a couple more big paydays.
Saving face my ass. He fought like a moron and did everything he should not have done. Anybody who has followed the man longer then last week knows this. What do you mean this was not an ordinary rematch clause? And FYI all rematch clauses are two fight deals. That is why they are rematch clauses.
Hiding out in Canada like Sturm hiding out in Germany, Floyd hiding out in Vegas, Ward in California or Monzon in Argentina etc etc.
If Froch travels to Canada and does the same thing, there will be no more "big paydays" for Lucian Bute.
What's the point?
Bute actually landed a couple of really good shots on Froch and Froch never flinched. I'd still be interested to watch a rematch.
If Bute caught by one huge shot in the first round and never really recovered, then I could see a rematch.
Bute was holding on every time Froch landed a right hand or left hook. if he stays in the middle of the ring, the fight would have gone longer, but Froch was still going to stop him eventually.
If bute sticks to his gameplan and boxes behind the jab it will be a closer fight, but as soon as froch gets close and unloads his shots bute will start to crumble. Froch will stop him same as the 1st fight just abit later imo.
Bute is doing it out of pride, but a rematch after a beat down seldom goes well. He will likely get hurt and then stopped again.
I don't see the point. I would rather see Froch against different opponents. He doesn't have that long left.
Hmm, I still doubt that it will happen until it's official, don't think it's a wise move at all for Bute. On the upside it would be a perfect interlude to a rematch with Pascal in Montreal, if Froch would be willing to move up to 175 and fight twice away from home, that is. Not sure whether that would be a bigger payday than a Kessler rematch or not, but either would be a treat for fans. Carl has some really lucrative options now, hard to believe he's made such a fine career for himself.
Why would anybody want to see this?
You can already rewatch the fight on youtube. :rolleyes:
Terry Norris lost fights because he didn't have much of a chin, but he was rarely outclasses before being knocked out, even against Julian Jackson he was doing fairly well.
Bute just got dominated in every facet, wasn't so much his chin as the fact he had no answer for what Froch was doing.
There's no point in this fight, Froch has Bute' number and it will likely have the same outcome. Bute needs to get some wins behind his belt and build his confidence up. Froch needs a Kessler rematch, that's more important to him than sparking Bute out again.
Don't think froch has a choice
It was in the initial contract that there was an immediate rematch
So if bute is wanting it am sure it has to happen
I hope Bute' team advice him to not go through with it. They seemed pretty certain they weren't looking for a rematch straight away and rightfully so, he got badly knocked out. Why would Bute want another beat down? This time in his hometown? It would ruin him even more if he went for a rematch because Froch would destroy him again.
When Froch got interviewed on SkySports News last week, he said something about an IBF rule that prevents someone that was stopped in a title fight from immediately challenging for the title again in their next fight. Anyone know if this rule is legit? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else when talking about the rematch clause here.
If Bute want's it Froch doesnt really have a choice in the matter.
I think it would be interesting to see how Froch goes for it without the crowd roaring him on and would be pretty suprised if Bute fought the same.
Will it change the outcome? Maybe not, but theres obvious adjusments he could make.
Never heard of that but you never know what clauses there are in place
I would of thought no matter the method of victory the rematch would still be a go er
Froch should still destroy him again probably later than the 5th
It wouldn't be a problem for froch to go to Canada to finish him once and for all as he's used to fighting away from home
As long as hes got the fan following he´ll get the paydays. He could fight just about anyone back home in Canada and fill arenas and get the tv deal. And when I say not an ordinary rematch clause it wasnt. Most champions have a rematch clause in case they get beat but this was arranged and sold to the public as a two fight deal regardless of the outcome. Bute expected to win but was still going to have the second fight - it wasnt there as insurance for him. So for him to not take the rematch, or at least admit he doesnt want it he would lose face.
It depends really. Froch strikes me as the kind of guy that would give Bute a rematch regardless of the contractual element involved because Bute went to Nottingham to fight Froch, even though he was the champion. I have a feel Froch would respect that. If Bute feels something was off in that fight that he can fix and put things right, I don't see why not. What else should he do? Go back to Quebec and beat average guys for another five years? What will that do for him? Unless Froch would agree to a Bute fight after the Kessler fight, he may not get another shot at a title, with as much money on the line, again. Even if Froch were heavily favored, the fight would garner a lot of interest, and Bute sells out stadiums in Montreal against much lesser men than Froch.
I don't think Bute will fight Froch immediately. As far as a rematch goes, a lot depends on the wording of the original contract. I'm guessing Bute will be heavily favoured in the contract seeing as when it was drawn up he was the champ and willing to travel to Nottingham for the first fight. Bute's people will have realised that if Bute lost Froch may fight Kessler or somebody else before a rematch and if Kessler wins I'm guessing Bute's people would much rather fight him than Froch. There is probably a contractual guarantee that Bute fights the winner of Froch-Kessler/whoever so Bute will almost certainly take a comeback fight and wait and see who he fights next.
Cam Froch signconteacts that say Bute has to fight other fighters though?... ;)
What Bute will need to do is move his head more , jab , get off first , and keep it at a slower pace
Bute should take on Martinez
or maybe Pavlik to boost his confidence.
before Froch, Bute was considered by many as the best 168 out there. now Ward, Dirrell, Abraham, Kessler have a good shot in beating him if we go by the forum's collected pulse.
Obviously it would be a great fight and it would be a true test of character for Bute to actually want a rematch after that painful loss. If he wants it and thinks he can avenge the loss then fair enough, Froch has to keep to his word on the rematch. I wouldn't mind seeing it either because I do think Bute would put on a better peformance in Canada.
I personally as a Froch fan would prefer the Kessler fight in the uk, as Froch needs to attempt to avenge that loss. It would no doubt be one of the best rematches to be made in the whole sport right now IMO. We will have to see though.
Froch will not fight an easy fighter!! He is a modern legend. He will fight Kessler and win then win the wbo and then fight bute again maybe just to finish him off then fight ward maybe win or lose and then he will have his retirement fight against pascal. He doesn't fight weak bums like Calzaghe.