-
Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Wot do u guys think ov this match up?looks pretty shit to me supposedly vitali to retire after this 1. Don't know anyfin about this charr is he any good?
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
There's not many more challenges out there for Vitali. Charr is undefeated, doesn't have all that great a resume, but he's German and it would be a huge fight in Ukraine I am certain of that. I wouldn't feel too bad if Vitali decided to hang up the gloves after this next bout.
Then we would likely see a scramble by Arreola, Stiverne, Wach, & Boytsov to win the WBC title and hopefully then we see a unification bout vs Wladimir and all would be right with the world, we'd have 1 single dominant champion holding all the belts and there might be a few loose ends for him to tie up in the division but it would be fun to see that before Wlad calls it quits.
-
Vitali is ducking Haye
Haye would destroy him
Al be gutted if that fight doesn't happen
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
pity vitali wouldnt have the fight everyone wants to see
unless i am sat infront of the tv and it happens to be on i wont be watching
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
pity vitali wouldnt have the fight everyone wants to see
unless i am sat infront of the tv and it happens to be on i wont be watching
What fight does "everyone want to see"? Vitali ain't gonna dig up your boy Frank Bruno and give him an ass whuppin' "just because"
as for Haye, he had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth. He's a bigger fraud than Audley "This is My Year (Take 10)" Harrison. Haye & Chisora may as well be 'Wrasslin' their fight means jack shit and although a bunch of ethnocentric Brits may watch that debacle it will do sweet fuck all for their boxing careers....they are collectively persona non grata in the heavyweight division, wastes of oxygen the both of them.
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Glinchdogg
Vitali is ducking Haye
Haye would destroy him
Al be gutted if that fight doesn't happen
:biteit:
:nono:
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
pity vitali wouldnt have the fight everyone wants to see
unless i am sat infront of the tv and it happens to be on i wont be watching
What fight does "everyone want to see"? Vitali ain't gonna dig up your boy Frank Bruno and give him an ass whuppin' "just because"
as for Haye, he had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth. He's a bigger fraud than Audley "This is My Year (Take 10)" Harrison. Haye & Chisora may as well be 'Wrasslin' their fight means jack shit and although a bunch of ethnocentric Brits may watch that debacle it will do sweet fuck all for their boxing careers....they are collectively persona non grata in the heavyweight division, wastes of oxygen the both of them.
Vitali wanted to watch Haye fight. Team Klitschko got very upset when he chose Chisora over Vitali.
Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News
Lets keep it real. However much people hate Haye he is still the only big deal in the entire heavyweight division. Whether it's fighting Klitschko's in Germany or Chisora in England Haye is the only dude that creates big news.
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
pity vitali wouldnt have the fight everyone wants to see
unless i am sat infront of the tv and it happens to be on i wont be watching
What fight does "everyone want to see"? Vitali ain't gonna dig up your boy Frank Bruno and give him an ass whuppin' "just because"
as for Haye, he had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth. He's a bigger fraud than Audley "This is My Year (Take 10)" Harrison. Haye & Chisora may as well be 'Wrasslin' their fight means jack shit and although a bunch of ethnocentric Brits may watch that debacle it will do sweet fuck all for their boxing careers....they are collectively persona non grata in the heavyweight division, wastes of oxygen the both of them.
Vitali wanted to watch Haye fight. Team Klitschko got very upset when he chose Chisora over Vitali.
Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News
Lets keep it real. However much people hate Haye
he is still the only big deal in the entire heavyweight division. Whether it's fighting Klitschko's in Germany or Chisora in England Haye is the only dude that creates big news.
#1 That's bullshit, it's not like Wlad and Vitali have trouble filling stadiums in Europe without Haye
#2 Big NEWS is different from big FIGHTS, Haye is a drama queen he's produced NOTHING of note in a heavyweight ring.......nothing.
#3 Haye-Chisora, what does the winenr get? Does it really mean anything? Are they realistically the best heavyweights out there bar the Klitschko's? I'm not so sure of that. I think there are guys out there that can beat both Haye & Chisora.
-
El kabong
The winner of Haye chisora get the WBC intercontanental title
WBA international title
So it does mean something as am sure the winner will get a shot of the title
Fenster has it bang on Haye has rejuvenated the heavyweight division since he move up in weight
Personally I thought all his title defences were great to watch even the beat down of Audley
Winning the title from the jolly white giant was some night aswell u can't deny that
Name one heavyweight outside the klitschko brothers that you would rather watch
Haye is one of few heavyweights that actually condition there self properly and are in great physical shape
Unlike the America lard asses that call themselves athletes
Waste of a lot of space the lot of them
Big mac with supersize fries please
Haye to beat chisora on points but it will be close
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Wlads last 10 and next 20 fights didnt and won't generate as much interest as haye v chiz (appart from when he fought haye or if he fights hin again)
And wlad is pissed off
Brothers as undisputed hw champs concurrently and nobody cares
A blown up cruiserweight generates more interest and he isn't even a champ :-)
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Glinchdogg
El kabong
The winner of Haye chisora get the WBC intercontanental title
WBA international title
So it does mean something as am sure the winner will get a shot of the title
Fenster has it bang on Haye has rejuvenated the heavyweight division since he move up in weight
Personally I thought all his title defences were great to watch even the beat down of Audley
Winning the title from the jolly white giant was some night aswell u can't deny that
Name one heavyweight outside the klitschko brothers that you would rather watch
Haye is one of few heavyweights that actually condition there self properly and are in great physical shape
Unlike the America lard asses that call themselves athletes
Waste of a lot of space the lot of them
Big mac with supersize fries please
Haye to beat chisora on points but it will be close
The WBC Intercontinental & WBA International titles concern me because??? Wlad & Vitali have the only belts that matter, am I wrong in thinking that?
Name one heavyweight outside the Klitschko's I would rather watch than Haye or Chisora? From where? I mean just 1 is pretty damned simple: Seth Mitchell....want more? Denis Boytsov, Tomaz Adamek, David Price, Bermane Stiverne, Cris Arreola, Deontay Wilder, Joe Hanks....hell I would rather watch Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock come out of retirement than see 1 more second of David "Pinky Toe" Haye.
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
pity vitali wouldnt have the fight everyone wants to see
unless i am sat infront of the tv and it happens to be on i wont be watching
What fight does "everyone want to see"? Vitali ain't gonna dig up your boy Frank Bruno and give him an ass whuppin' "just because"
as for Haye, he had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth. He's a bigger fraud than Audley "This is My Year (Take 10)" Harrison. Haye & Chisora may as well be 'Wrasslin' their fight means jack shit and although a bunch of ethnocentric Brits may watch that debacle it will do sweet fuck all for their boxing careers....they are collectively persona non grata in the heavyweight division, wastes of oxygen the both of them.
Vitali wanted to watch Haye fight. Team Klitschko got very upset when he chose Chisora over Vitali.
Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News
Lets keep it real. However much people hate Haye
he is still the only big deal in the entire heavyweight division. Whether it's fighting Klitschko's in Germany or Chisora in England Haye is the only dude that creates big news.
#1 That's bullshit, it's not like Wlad and Vitali have trouble filling stadiums in Europe without Haye
#2 Big NEWS is different from big FIGHTS, Haye is a drama queen he's produced NOTHING of note in a heavyweight ring.......nothing.
#3 Haye-Chisora, what does the winenr get? Does it really mean anything? Are they realistically the best heavyweights out there bar the Klitschko's? I'm not so sure of that. I think there are guys out there that can beat both Haye & Chisora.
This is what you said -
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth.
If that's the case explain why Team Klitschko released a statement claiming Haye ducked Vitali minutes after Haye-Chisora was announced?
Team Klitschko immediately wanted to link themselves with Haye. Why? If Haye is such the no-mark you claim?
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
David Price has already been mentioned by the Klitschkos as an opponent. With an established name, just imagine when Audley KO's Price, he instantly becomes the most viable big name opponent left for the Klitschkos. Then Just imagine the tentative Wlad taking one of Audleys big lefts smack on the chin;D
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Will the Klit brothers ever fight in the USA again?
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Master
Will the Klit brothers ever fight in the USA again?
Wladimir is supposed to fight Arreola in the US after the Thompson rematch.
I'm glad Vitali is giving the Ukrainian public a farewell fight. The Brothers have only fought in their native land once way back in 1998.
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?
You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?
You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire
There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"
But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if - "Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.
So..
1. Haye hasn't blown his chance.
2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit).
3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over.
If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?
You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire
There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"
But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if -
"Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.
So..
1. Haye hasn't blown his chance.
This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.
2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit).
More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.
3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over.
Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.
If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.
I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.
Fact.
;)
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?
You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire
There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"
But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if -
"Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.
So..
1. Haye hasn't blown his chance.
This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.
2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit).
More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.
3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over.
Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.
If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.
I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.
Fact.
;)
That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.
1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh? You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact). You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?
You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire
There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"
But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if -
"Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.
So..
1. Haye hasn't blown his chance.
This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.
2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit).
More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.
3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over.
Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.
If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.
I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.
Fact.
;)
That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.
1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh?
You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact).
You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade
1. Haye needs Vitali more than Vitali needs Haye. Vitali, in fact, does not NEED Haye. It is Haye who needs redemption, just like yourself. If you don't realize this, you're either blind, stupid, or both. I vote for the last one.
2. I could give a rat's ass where Haye's fight is being held. Do you know for a fact it's being sold out? A few fights have been held at Texas Stadium (that's the big American football stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play, owned by Jerry Jones). Does that mean every seat has been filled? Again.... you're either blind, stupid, deluded, or all three. I vote for the last one. Oh... I almost forgot. "Millions will watch around the world"?? Haye vs. Chisora?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are one pathetic little puppy. I almost feel bad banging on you all the time.
3. Is that your comeback? I'd be embarassed to admit that. But then again I have higher standards than you.
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?
You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire
There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"
But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if -
"Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.
So..
1. Haye hasn't blown his chance.
This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.
2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit).
More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.
3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over.
Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.
If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.
I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.
Fact.
;)
That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.
1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh?
You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact).
You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade
1. Haye needs Vitali more than Vitali needs Haye. Vitali, in fact, does not NEED Haye. It is Haye who needs redemption, just like yourself. If you don't realize this, you're either blind, stupid, or both. I vote for the last one.
2. I could give a rat's ass where Haye's fight is being held. Do you know for a fact it's being sold out? A few fights have been held at Texas Stadium (that's the big American football stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play, owned by Jerry Jones). Does that mean every seat has been filled? Again.... you're either blind, stupid, deluded, or all three. I vote for the last one. Oh... I almost forgot. "Millions will watch around the world"?? Haye vs. Chisora?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are one pathetic little puppy. I almost feel bad banging on you all the time.
3. Is that your comeback? I'd be embarassed to admit that. But then again I have higher standards than you.
1. Read and weep - Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News - This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye.
2. Read and weep - David Haye v Dereck Chisora sells 17,000 tickets in just one day | The Sun |Sport|Boxing - This link provides evidence of the magnitude of the fight in Britain. The TV rights will be sold to hundreds of countries around the world which will total millions of people viewing it.
The Fenster only deals in facts and figures. Fact.
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?
You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire
There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"
But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if -
"Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.
So..
1. Haye hasn't blown his chance.
This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.
2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit).
More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.
3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over.
Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.
If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.
I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.
Fact.
;)
That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.
1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh?
You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact).
You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade
1. Haye needs Vitali more than Vitali needs Haye. Vitali, in fact, does not NEED Haye. It is Haye who needs redemption, just like yourself. If you don't realize this, you're either blind, stupid, or both. I vote for the last one.
2. I could give a rat's ass where Haye's fight is being held. Do you know for a fact it's being sold out? A few fights have been held at Texas Stadium (that's the big American football stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play, owned by Jerry Jones). Does that mean every seat has been filled? Again.... you're either blind, stupid, deluded, or all three. I vote for the last one. Oh... I almost forgot. "Millions will watch around the world"?? Haye vs. Chisora?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are one pathetic little puppy. I almost feel bad banging on you all the time.
3. Is that your comeback? I'd be embarassed to admit that. But then again I have higher standards than you.
1. Read and weep -
Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News - This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye.
2. Read and weep -
David Haye v Dereck Chisora sells 17,000 tickets in just one day | The Sun |Sport|Boxing - This link provides evidence of the magnitude of the fight in Britain. The TV rights will be sold to hundreds of countries around the world which will total millions of people viewing it.
The Fenster only deals in facts and figures. Fact.
"The Fenster" is almost too pathetic to beat up on. Maybe you should screen the articles before you use them as proof of your idiocy. Case in point:
He pitched up trying to bait Vitali into fighting him but became embroiled in a bitter trade of insults with Chisora.
1. "The Fenster" claims: "This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye." Yet the quote above, comes from his second link, titled "17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". The second link you posted directly contradicts what you're so desperately trying to establish in point # 1. This is too easy, squirt. It's like fishing in a fishbowl.
2. The very title of the 2nd link immediately crushes any credibility the article may have wanted to have. "17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". Seriously? No... really. Seriously? Besides, "The Fenster" decided to ignore my direct counterpoint about the fight being held in a 40,000 venue and "millions going to watch the fight." Pacquiao-Margarito was held in 80,000-seat Texas Stadium and had a paid attendance of 40,000. A complete dissappointment. And surely Pacquaio vs. anybody puts more butts in seats than the clown Haye.
You have some serious ground to cover to get back to zero credibility. 'Cause right now, it's in the negative numbers. Oh..... and by the way, quit using big words like "mathematics" and "probabilities". You're more in the league of "arithmetic" and "wild guesses."
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?
You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire
There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"
But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if -
"Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.
So..
1. Haye hasn't blown his chance.
This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.
2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit).
More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.
3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over.
Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.
If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.
I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.
Fact.
;)
That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.
1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh?
You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact).
You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade
1. Haye needs Vitali more than Vitali needs Haye. Vitali, in fact, does not NEED Haye. It is Haye who needs redemption, just like yourself. If you don't realize this, you're either blind, stupid, or both. I vote for the last one.
2. I could give a rat's ass where Haye's fight is being held. Do you know for a fact it's being sold out? A few fights have been held at Texas Stadium (that's the big American football stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play, owned by Jerry Jones). Does that mean every seat has been filled? Again.... you're either blind, stupid, deluded, or all three. I vote for the last one. Oh... I almost forgot. "Millions will watch around the world"?? Haye vs. Chisora?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are one pathetic little puppy. I almost feel bad banging on you all the time.
3. Is that your comeback? I'd be embarassed to admit that. But then again I have higher standards than you.
1. Read and weep -
Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News - This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye.
2. Read and weep -
David Haye v Dereck Chisora sells 17,000 tickets in just one day | The Sun |Sport|Boxing - This link provides evidence of the magnitude of the fight in Britain. The TV rights will be sold to hundreds of countries around the world which will total millions of people viewing it.
The Fenster only deals in facts and figures. Fact.
"The Fenster" is almost too pathetic to beat up on. Maybe you should screen the articles before you use them as proof of your idiocy. Case in point:
He pitched up trying to bait Vitali into fighting him but became embroiled in a bitter trade of insults with Chisora.
1. "The Fenster" claims: "
This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye." Yet the quote above, comes from his second link, titled
"17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". The second link you posted directly contradicts what you're so desperately trying to establish in point # 1. This is too easy, squirt. It's like fishing in a fishbowl.
2. The very title of the 2nd link immediately crushes any credibility the article may have wanted to have.
"17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". Seriously? No... really. Seriously? Besides, "The Fenster" decided to ignore my direct counterpoint about the fight being held in a 40,000 venue and "millions going to watch the fight." Pacquiao-Margarito was held in 80,000-seat Texas Stadium and had a paid attendance of 40,000. A complete dissappointment. And surely Pacquaio vs. anybody puts more butts in seats than the clown Haye.
You have some serious ground to cover to get back to zero credibility. 'Cause right now, it's in the negative numbers. Oh..... and by the way, quit using big words like "mathematics" and "probabilities". You're more in the league of "arithmetic" and "wild guesses."
No disrespect but can you PM someone to help you with this one? I'm honestly not taking the piss.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?
You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire
There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"
But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if -
"Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.
So..
1. Haye hasn't blown his chance.
This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.
2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit).
More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.
3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over.
Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.
If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.
I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.
Fact.
;)
That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.
1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh?
You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact).
You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.
3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade
1. Haye needs Vitali more than Vitali needs Haye. Vitali, in fact, does not NEED Haye. It is Haye who needs redemption, just like yourself. If you don't realize this, you're either blind, stupid, or both. I vote for the last one.
2. I could give a rat's ass where Haye's fight is being held. Do you know for a fact it's being sold out? A few fights have been held at Texas Stadium (that's the big American football stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play, owned by Jerry Jones). Does that mean every seat has been filled? Again.... you're either blind, stupid, deluded, or all three. I vote for the last one. Oh... I almost forgot. "Millions will watch around the world"?? Haye vs. Chisora?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are one pathetic little puppy. I almost feel bad banging on you all the time.
3. Is that your comeback? I'd be embarassed to admit that. But then again I have higher standards than you.
1. Read and weep -
Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News - This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye.
2. Read and weep -
David Haye v Dereck Chisora sells 17,000 tickets in just one day | The Sun |Sport|Boxing - This link provides evidence of the magnitude of the fight in Britain. The TV rights will be sold to hundreds of countries around the world which will total millions of people viewing it.
The Fenster only deals in facts and figures. Fact.
"The Fenster" is almost too pathetic to beat up on. Maybe you should screen the articles before you use them as proof of your idiocy. Case in point:
He pitched up trying to bait Vitali into fighting him but became embroiled in a bitter trade of insults with Chisora.
1. "The Fenster" claims: "
This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye." Yet the quote above, comes from his second link, titled
"17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". The second link you posted directly contradicts what you're so desperately trying to establish in point # 1. This is too easy, squirt. It's like fishing in a fishbowl.
2. The very title of the 2nd link immediately crushes any credibility the article may have wanted to have.
"17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". Seriously? No... really. Seriously? Besides, "The Fenster" decided to ignore my direct counterpoint about the fight being held in a 40,000 venue and "millions going to watch the fight." Pacquiao-Margarito was held in 80,000-seat Texas Stadium and had a paid attendance of 40,000. A complete dissappointment. And surely Pacquaio vs. anybody puts more butts in seats than the clown Haye.
You have some serious ground to cover to get back to zero credibility. 'Cause right now, it's in the negative numbers. Oh..... and by the way, quit using big words like "mathematics" and "probabilities". You're more in the league of "arithmetic" and "wild guesses."
No disrespect but can you PM someone to help you with this one? I'm honestly not taking the piss.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
My bad.
I'll use smaller words next time.
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies
one mention of his name and the people who claim he doesnt deserve to be anywhere near the klits are writing lengthy replies to as why this is the case and getting into heated debates
imagine if someone was to come on this thread (which is about vitali klit v some german btw) and claim he should be fighting Tony Thompson? The replies would be "dont be daft" or even if it would get a reply
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
and if you would like my opinion, I am not one to point the finger about who is ducking who and whatever, i think boxers choose to fight people for very good reasons and when you are at the top your decision is gonna upset people and are gonna start to point the scaredy cat finger
having said that, the way vitali has been shouting his mouth at every chance about haye for the past 3 years, he had a very good opportunity to fight haye this year
This coupled with the decision he made in the opponent he chose, makes this the least defendable back out of a fight between haye and the klits since the backing out saga began :)
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies
....which is why he has filled 50K seat stadiums before? Oh wait, he hasn't has he? Wlad had 51,500 people watch him fight Eddie Chambers.
You're a moron and a ginger and you have no soul
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies
....which is why he has filled 50K seat stadiums before? Oh wait, he hasn't has he? Wlad had 51,500 people watch him fight Eddie Chambers.
You're a moron and a ginger and you have no soul
just another little snippet of proof
would you be getting angry over chris areola? ;D
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
just another little snippet of proof
would you be getting angry over chris areola? ;D
Cris Arreola doesn't act like a twat
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies
....which is why he has filled 50K seat stadiums before? Oh wait, he hasn't has he? Wlad had 51,500 people watch him fight Eddie Chambers.
You're a moron and a ginger and you have no soul
Floyd has never filled a 50,000 seat stadium either. Are the Klits bigger than him? How many PPVs do the Klits sell? Haye sold over a million for the Valuev fight alone.
Also he has never had a chance to fill a British stadium. Most of his big fights have been in the other fighters country. His home fights have been held during the football season. You can't fight in a football stadium during the season.
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
just another little snippet of proof
would you be getting angry over chris areola? ;D
Cris Arreola doesn't act like a twat
nor does anyone care who and when he fights
unless he was to fight haye that is :)
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
nor does anyone care who and when he fights
unless he was to fight haye that is :)
People care when he fights, just not Union Jack blinded idiots like you
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
nor does anyone care who and when he fights
unless he was to fight haye that is :)
People care when he fights, just not Union Jack blinded idiots like you
his mum and his gran do yep
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Whatever, it's erroneous to the topic which is Vitali vs Charr. Vitali wins by KO probably around the 7th and then he retires
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies
....which is why he has filled 50K seat stadiums before? Oh wait, he hasn't has he? Wlad had 51,500 people watch him fight Eddie Chambers.
You're a moron and a ginger and you have no soul
It's better than being Cartman's Ass Monkey
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies
....which is why he has filled 50K seat stadiums before? Oh wait, he hasn't has he? Wlad had 51,500 people watch him fight Eddie Chambers.
You're a moron and a ginger and you have no soul
It's better than being Cartman's Ass Monkey
Zip it Gramps
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies
....which is why he has filled 50K seat stadiums before? Oh wait, he hasn't has he? Wlad had 51,500 people watch him fight Eddie Chambers.
You're a moron and a ginger and you have no soul
It's better than being Cartman's Ass Monkey
Zip it Gramps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D53zP...feature=relmfu
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Whatever, it's erroneous to the topic which is Vitali vs Charr. Vitali wins by KO probably around the 7th and then he retires
No one cares
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Whatever, it's erroneous to the topic which is Vitali vs Charr. Vitali wins by KO probably around the 7th and then he retires
No one cares
Well I don't care about David fucking Haye & DerreCk damned Chisora so fuck off
-
Re: Vitali klitschko v manuel charr
Quote:
Originally Posted by
erics44
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Whatever, it's erroneous to the topic which is Vitali vs Charr. Vitali wins by KO probably around the 7th and then he retires
No one cares
Well.... that's not entirely true. David Haye cares.
Haye, who is impatiently waiting in the wings for another shot at a Klitschko. Feeling underappreciated given his reign at heavyweight. Who else can boast a resume like this?
- Conqueror of Monte Barrett, loser of 3 of his last 6 fights.
- Ekes out a decision over circus act Nikolay Valuev.
- TKO win over the great John Ruiz, sure to go down as one of the best HW's in history.
- Victory over the equally great and highly regarded Audley Harrison.
- On his way to a stunning victory over Wladimir Klitschko, until a sore big toe betrayed him and derailed his quest.
Call it a hunch, but I feel they're beginning to clear out a space on the HW Hall of Fame mantle for David Haye as we speak.