Vitali klitschko v manuel charr

[El Kabong]

The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?

You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire

[Fenster]

The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?

You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire

There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"

But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if - "Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.

So..

1. Haye hasn't blown his chance.

2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit).

3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over.

If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.

[TitoFan]

The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?

You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire

There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"

But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if - "Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.

So..

1. Haye hasn't blown his chance. This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.

2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit). More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.

3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over. Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.

If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.

I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.

Fact.

[Fenster]

The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?

You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire

There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"

But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if - "Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.

So..

1. Haye hasn't blown his chance. This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.

2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit). More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.

3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over. Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.

If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.

I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.

Fact.

That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.

1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh? You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact). You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade

[TitoFan]

The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?

You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire

There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"

But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if - "Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.

So..

1. Haye hasn't blown his chance. This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.

2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit). More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.

3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over. Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.

If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.

I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.

Fact.

That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.

1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh? You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact). You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade

1. Haye needs Vitali more than Vitali needs Haye. Vitali, in fact, does not NEED Haye. It is Haye who needs redemption, just like yourself. If you don't realize this, you're either blind, stupid, or both. I vote for the last one.

2. I could give a rat's ass where Haye's fight is being held. Do you know for a fact it's being sold out? A few fights have been held at Texas Stadium (that's the big American football stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play, owned by Jerry Jones). Does that mean every seat has been filled? Again.... you're either blind, stupid, deluded, or all three. I vote for the last one. Oh... I almost forgot. "Millions will watch around the world"?? Haye vs. Chisora?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are one pathetic little puppy. I almost feel bad banging on you all the time.

3. Is that your comeback? I'd be embarassed to admit that. But then again I have higher standards than you.

[Fenster]

The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?

You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire

There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"

But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if - "Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.

So..

1. Haye hasn't blown his chance. This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.

2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit). More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.

3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over. Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.

If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.

I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.

Fact.

That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.

1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh? You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact). You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade

1. Haye needs Vitali more than Vitali needs Haye. Vitali, in fact, does not NEED Haye. It is Haye who needs redemption, just like yourself. If you don't realize this, you're either blind, stupid, or both. I vote for the last one.

2. I could give a rat's ass where Haye's fight is being held. Do you know for a fact it's being sold out? A few fights have been held at Texas Stadium (that's the big American football stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play, owned by Jerry Jones). Does that mean every seat has been filled? Again.... you're either blind, stupid, deluded, or all three. I vote for the last one. Oh... I almost forgot. "Millions will watch around the world"?? Haye vs. Chisora?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are one pathetic little puppy. I almost feel bad banging on you all the time.

3. Is that your comeback? I'd be embarassed to admit that. But then again I have higher standards than you.

1. Read and weep - Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News - This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye.

2. Read and weep - David Haye v Dereck Chisora sells 17,000 tickets in just one day | The Sun |Sport|Boxing - This link provides evidence of the magnitude of the fight in Britain. The TV rights will be sold to hundreds of countries around the world which will total millions of people viewing it.

The Fenster only deals in facts and figures. Fact.

[TitoFan]

The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?

You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire

There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"

But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if - "Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.

So..

1. Haye hasn't blown his chance. This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.

2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit). More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.

3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over. Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.

If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.

I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.

Fact.

That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.

1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh? You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact). You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade

1. Haye needs Vitali more than Vitali needs Haye. Vitali, in fact, does not NEED Haye. It is Haye who needs redemption, just like yourself. If you don't realize this, you're either blind, stupid, or both. I vote for the last one.

2. I could give a rat's ass where Haye's fight is being held. Do you know for a fact it's being sold out? A few fights have been held at Texas Stadium (that's the big American football stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play, owned by Jerry Jones). Does that mean every seat has been filled? Again.... you're either blind, stupid, deluded, or all three. I vote for the last one. Oh... I almost forgot. "Millions will watch around the world"?? Haye vs. Chisora?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are one pathetic little puppy. I almost feel bad banging on you all the time.

3. Is that your comeback? I'd be embarassed to admit that. But then again I have higher standards than you.

1. Read and weep - Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News - This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye.

2. Read and weep - David Haye v Dereck Chisora sells 17,000 tickets in just one day | The Sun |Sport|Boxing - This link provides evidence of the magnitude of the fight in Britain. The TV rights will be sold to hundreds of countries around the world which will total millions of people viewing it.

The Fenster only deals in facts and figures. Fact.

"The Fenster" is almost too pathetic to beat up on. Maybe you should screen the articles before you use them as proof of your idiocy. Case in point:

He pitched up trying to bait Vitali into fighting him but became embroiled in a bitter trade of insults with Chisora.

1. "The Fenster" claims: "This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye." Yet the quote above, comes from his second link, titled "17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". The second link you posted directly contradicts what you're so desperately trying to establish in point # 1. This is too easy, squirt. It's like fishing in a fishbowl.

2. The very title of the 2nd link immediately crushes any credibility the article may have wanted to have. "17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". Seriously? No... really. Seriously? Besides, "The Fenster" decided to ignore my direct counterpoint about the fight being held in a 40,000 venue and "millions going to watch the fight." Pacquiao-Margarito was held in 80,000-seat Texas Stadium and had a paid attendance of 40,000. A complete dissappointment. And surely Pacquaio vs. anybody puts more butts in seats than the clown Haye.


You have some serious ground to cover to get back to zero credibility. 'Cause right now, it's in the negative numbers. Oh..... and by the way, quit using big words like "mathematics" and "probabilities". You're more in the league of "arithmetic" and "wild guesses."

[Fenster]

The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?

You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire

There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"

But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if - "Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.

So..

1. Haye hasn't blown his chance. This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.

2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit). More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.

3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over. Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.

If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.

I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.

Fact.

That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.

1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh? You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact). You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade

1. Haye needs Vitali more than Vitali needs Haye. Vitali, in fact, does not NEED Haye. It is Haye who needs redemption, just like yourself. If you don't realize this, you're either blind, stupid, or both. I vote for the last one.

2. I could give a rat's ass where Haye's fight is being held. Do you know for a fact it's being sold out? A few fights have been held at Texas Stadium (that's the big American football stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play, owned by Jerry Jones). Does that mean every seat has been filled? Again.... you're either blind, stupid, deluded, or all three. I vote for the last one. Oh... I almost forgot. "Millions will watch around the world"?? Haye vs. Chisora?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are one pathetic little puppy. I almost feel bad banging on you all the time.

3. Is that your comeback? I'd be embarassed to admit that. But then again I have higher standards than you.

1. Read and weep - Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News - This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye.

2. Read and weep - David Haye v Dereck Chisora sells 17,000 tickets in just one day | The Sun |Sport|Boxing - This link provides evidence of the magnitude of the fight in Britain. The TV rights will be sold to hundreds of countries around the world which will total millions of people viewing it.

The Fenster only deals in facts and figures. Fact.

"The Fenster" is almost too pathetic to beat up on. Maybe you should screen the articles before you use them as proof of your idiocy. Case in point:

He pitched up trying to bait Vitali into fighting him but became embroiled in a bitter trade of insults with Chisora.

1. "The Fenster" claims: "This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye." Yet the quote above, comes from his second link, titled "17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". The second link you posted directly contradicts what you're so desperately trying to establish in point # 1. This is too easy, squirt. It's like fishing in a fishbowl.

2. The very title of the 2nd link immediately crushes any credibility the article may have wanted to have. "17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". Seriously? No... really. Seriously? Besides, "The Fenster" decided to ignore my direct counterpoint about the fight being held in a 40,000 venue and "millions going to watch the fight." Pacquiao-Margarito was held in 80,000-seat Texas Stadium and had a paid attendance of 40,000. A complete dissappointment. And surely Pacquaio vs. anybody puts more butts in seats than the clown Haye.


You have some serious ground to cover to get back to zero credibility. 'Cause right now, it's in the negative numbers. Oh..... and by the way, quit using big words like "mathematics" and "probabilities". You're more in the league of "arithmetic" and "wild guesses."

No disrespect but can you PM someone to help you with this one? I'm honestly not taking the piss.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[TitoFan]

The problem with what you wrote Fenster is that you fail to realize Vitali has more than 1 motivation as a prize fighter. Sure he could make a good bit of change fighting Haye, but Vitali has made plenty of cash it's not as if Haye will bring in much more (without demanding much more of a cut)....Vitali just wanted to whip Haye's ass, anything wrong with that?

You idiots keep on following Haye, perhaps one day he'll be the British Champion .....oooooooh aaaaaaaah what an amazing feat, why nothing on Earth could beat that! That is of course assuming #1 He beats Chisora which is NOT a given and #2 he chooses to keep on fighting and not re-retire

There's nothing wrong with Vitali just "wanting to whip Haye's ass"

But even that motivation proves you wrong. Because, once again, if - "Haye had his chance nobody wants to watch him fight or hear him run his damn mouth" then why exactly did Team Klitschko bother to claim that Haye is DUCKING Vitali? They spent months claiming Haye "doesn't deserve" a fight with the Klits only to completely change their mind the second Haye abandoned them.

So..

1. Haye hasn't blown his chance. This is not up to Haye. It's up to the boxing public. And if you want my opinion (and even if you don't)... Haye used up his "goodwill" (if he ever had any) with the majority of the boxing public (except delusional fans like yourself) when he turned in his shameful display against Wlad. Boxing gives out few second chances.

2. People obviously want to see him fight (especially Team Klit). More wishful thinking, pathetically dressed up as "fact." Who the fuck are you to talk for all "people"? I certainly have NO interest in seeing another Haye fight. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Cero.

3. His damn mouth is something all promoters (especially Team Klit) salivate over. Hey Sherlock..... Ali was a loudmouth. But he backed it up in the ring. Haye's just a loudmouth. Big difference.

If Haye is as irrelevant as you claim there is no reason whatsoever for Team Klit to even care about him fighting Chisora. However, that is clearly not the case. It's the complete opposite. They immediately chose to link themselves with Haye (the only big name in heavyweight boxing). Fact.

I see your ignorance crosses all borders. You're even delusional about David Haye. I took it upon myself to correct some of your misguided statements. But I am getting tired of sharing my wisdom with you for free. Pretty soon it's gonna cost you.

Fact.

That's possibly the most pathetic reply i've ever read.

1. Why was Vitali trying to make a fight with Haye if he wasn't getting a "second chance?" Do you think Vitali was negotiating with him for a laugh? You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

2. Haye's next fight is in a stadium that holds 40,000 people. Millions will watch around the world. That amounts to "people want to watch him fight" (I didn't have to say "fact" because a chimpanzee could realise it's a fact). You've made yourself look stupid. Fact.

3. Thanks for that Inspector Lestrade

1. Haye needs Vitali more than Vitali needs Haye. Vitali, in fact, does not NEED Haye. It is Haye who needs redemption, just like yourself. If you don't realize this, you're either blind, stupid, or both. I vote for the last one.

2. I could give a rat's ass where Haye's fight is being held. Do you know for a fact it's being sold out? A few fights have been held at Texas Stadium (that's the big American football stadium where the Dallas Cowboys play, owned by Jerry Jones). Does that mean every seat has been filled? Again.... you're either blind, stupid, deluded, or all three. I vote for the last one. Oh... I almost forgot. "Millions will watch around the world"?? Haye vs. Chisora?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are one pathetic little puppy. I almost feel bad banging on you all the time.

3. Is that your comeback? I'd be embarassed to admit that. But then again I have higher standards than you.

1. Read and weep - Team Klitschko: Haye Ducked Vitali For Easier Chisora - Boxing News - This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye.

2. Read and weep - David Haye v Dereck Chisora sells 17,000 tickets in just one day | The Sun |Sport|Boxing - This link provides evidence of the magnitude of the fight in Britain. The TV rights will be sold to hundreds of countries around the world which will total millions of people viewing it.

The Fenster only deals in facts and figures. Fact.

"The Fenster" is almost too pathetic to beat up on. Maybe you should screen the articles before you use them as proof of your idiocy. Case in point:

He pitched up trying to bait Vitali into fighting him but became embroiled in a bitter trade of insults with Chisora.

1. "The Fenster" claims: "This link provides evidence of Vitali chasing a fight with Haye." Yet the quote above, comes from his second link, titled "17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". The second link you posted directly contradicts what you're so desperately trying to establish in point # 1. This is too easy, squirt. It's like fishing in a fishbowl.

2. The very title of the 2nd link immediately crushes any credibility the article may have wanted to have. "17,000 Sales Prove it's The Biggest Fight Ever". Seriously? No... really. Seriously? Besides, "The Fenster" decided to ignore my direct counterpoint about the fight being held in a 40,000 venue and "millions going to watch the fight." Pacquiao-Margarito was held in 80,000-seat Texas Stadium and had a paid attendance of 40,000. A complete dissappointment. And surely Pacquaio vs. anybody puts more butts in seats than the clown Haye.


You have some serious ground to cover to get back to zero credibility. 'Cause right now, it's in the negative numbers. Oh..... and by the way, quit using big words like "mathematics" and "probabilities". You're more in the league of "arithmetic" and "wild guesses."

No disrespect but can you PM someone to help you with this one? I'm honestly not taking the piss.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

My bad.
I'll use smaller words next time.

[erics44]

this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies

one mention of his name and the people who claim he doesnt deserve to be anywhere near the klits are writing lengthy replies to as why this is the case and getting into heated debates

imagine if someone was to come on this thread (which is about vitali klit v some german btw) and claim he should be fighting Tony Thompson? The replies would be "dont be daft" or even if it would get a reply

[erics44]

and if you would like my opinion, I am not one to point the finger about who is ducking who and whatever, i think boxers choose to fight people for very good reasons and when you are at the top your decision is gonna upset people and are gonna start to point the scaredy cat finger

having said that, the way vitali has been shouting his mouth at every chance about haye for the past 3 years, he had a very good opportunity to fight haye this year

This coupled with the decision he made in the opponent he chose, makes this the least defendable back out of a fight between haye and the klits since the backing out saga began

[El Kabong]

this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies

....which is why he has filled 50K seat stadiums before? Oh wait, he hasn't has he? Wlad had 51,500 people watch him fight Eddie Chambers.

You're a moron and a ginger and you have no soul

[erics44]

this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies

....which is why he has filled 50K seat stadiums before? Oh wait, he hasn't has he? Wlad had 51,500 people watch him fight Eddie Chambers.

You're a moron and a ginger and you have no soul

just another little snippet of proof

would you be getting angry over chris areola?

[El Kabong]

just another little snippet of proof

would you be getting angry over chris areola?

Cris Arreola doesn't act like a twat

[Fenster]

this thread proves haye is the biggest draw in the heavies

....which is why he has filled 50K seat stadiums before? Oh wait, he hasn't has he? Wlad had 51,500 people watch him fight Eddie Chambers.

You're a moron and a ginger and you have no soul

Floyd has never filled a 50,000 seat stadium either. Are the Klits bigger than him? How many PPVs do the Klits sell? Haye sold over a million for the Valuev fight alone.

Also he has never had a chance to fill a British stadium. Most of his big fights have been in the other fighters country. His home fights have been held during the football season. You can't fight in a football stadium during the season.