Watched Maidana fight and he looked very good against Soto. The fight was excellent too with both fighters standing in the middle of the ring and trying to beat each other into submission.
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Watched Maidana fight and he looked very good against Soto. The fight was excellent too with both fighters standing in the middle of the ring and trying to beat each other into submission.
It was entertaining and a little bit like a night down the Noah's Ark or Dog and Duck or AlbermarleQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
;D
Good fight with some remarkable technical adjustments by maidana.
Control like that would have seen him level Kahn.
You are right and I didn't mean to be totally flippant and dismissive in my alluding to a pub fight, but it was unusually bitter and full of fouling and genuine contempt for each other. For once Kenny Bayliss exasperated the situation a bit with the random nature of his point taking and threatening to disqualify. We have been unusually spoilt recently as Boxing fans in just about every type of fight happening over the last couple of weeks. Shut outs , near upsets, evenly matched wars , tactical battles the lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donny
147 is a deep division. MM will make for a good fight against any top fighter.
He's got a shaky chin and his power doesn't have the same effect at 147, but I love watching him fight. I don't think he'll do much damage at welter though.
He's made some top notch technical adjustments with jab and actual patience under Garcia but may offset it all by going at welterweight. Not sure if hes struggling to make weight..he gassed a bit...or going after $ but he'd be smart to stay at 140 with that new found gear.
Great scrap! Bayliss looked on the fringe of loosing control a bit to me, bad night.
This was a hell of a tear up, I posted a thread about this fight when it was announced but none of you gave a shit...:eek:;D
Maidana did struggle a bit against Soto Karass who is a bigger man and has an iron will.
Like others have said Maidana just does NOT belong at welterweight, he beat Soto Karass because Karass is a fringe contender and Maidana is a former World Title holder.
His class shined through despite it being the wrong weight for him.
@Hulk - although Robert Garcia is adding wrinkles to Maidana's game that might make it possible to be somewhat effective at welterweight. I agree, however, his ideal weight class is junior welterweight. I hope the rumors are not true that Canelo is considering facing Maidana at 154.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Was a cracker while it lasted, a few more fights under Garcia and Maidana could well improve a lot, fighting Canelo at 154 is suicide though, 140 is Maidanas best wieght where he could clean the division out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat@Hulk - although Robert Garcia is adding wrinkles to Maidana's game that might make it possible to be somewhat effective at welterweight. I agree, however, his ideal weight class is junior welterweight. I hope the rumors are not true that Canelo is considering facing Maidana at 154.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Agree with this. I am not convinced with Maidana as a menacing puncher at 147; I think he could make some marvelous fights, but not dominate as was his potential at 140.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Duke
I really liked his jab and his attempt at defense. Although he really got to work on it, he got hit with too many straight punches for my taste. I salute him for not smothering himself like he always used to and if he went back to 140 while keeping this jab I think a fight between him and Rios would be very enjoyable to watch.
Sorry Hulk I was trying to find your thread to post this on as I only watched it the weekend.
It is true Maidana did make a lot of adjustments which show he can learn and adapt. Soto may not be the quickest or slickest which may have made Marcus better than he really was, but his jab was fantastic and whilst he tired in one round, he came back and landed the KO.
No problem. You know I can't stay mad at you ;);DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
His jab was great and he did tire in the middle rounds as usual but as usual he fought through it and came back. He is just one tough, rugged SOB.
Guys like Maidana would fit in nicely in any era.
True, and I like watching him, but he would've been found out pretty quickly if he were around 6 or 7 years ago, imo. I would've loved to have see him in against say a Gatti or Corley though, and I think a fight with Zab Judah would still be a lot of fun. If he does plan on staying around 147, he and Malignaggi would be a really solid matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
In a best case scenario for Hatton, Maidana would be an ideal opponent a couple of fights down the line as well.
He's a brawler puncher with some skill when he chooses you use it just like Gatti. I agree with you and that kind of fight would have been a Foty contender. I always Corley was underrated for having grown up in extremely competitive times. Crazy perhaps but I actually think the Zab of today has a better shot to best him then the younger version who seemed to suffer the same affliction as today' s Dawson. Watching his own fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingTrue, and I like watching him, but he would've been found out pretty quickly if he were around 6 or 7 years ago, imo. I would've loved to have see him in against say a Gatti or Corley though, and I think a fight with Zab Judah would still be a lot of fun. If he does plan on staying around 147, he and Malignaggi would be a really solid matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
In a best case scenario for Hatton, Maidana would be an ideal opponent a couple of fights down the line as well.
Be interesting to see how Ricky progresses. He looks to be in pretty good freakin shape in the pics I have seen albeit wearing his gym shit but then I'm a bit bias. He's my favourite jr welt of all time. I never wanted him to comeback to be honest but he's also a throw back and most certainly does not need the money like most comeback fighters do. I don't expect Ricky to make some huge announcement but rather that he is fighting a reasonable come back fight and not some schlep that is 2 and 20. He'd be a fool to jump in with a top 10 guy right out of the gates.
Told ya I was bias. I just turned this into a Hatton thread;D