Khan says if brook beats alexander(jan 19th)he will fight him.
Will kell beat devon?
And is this a fight we will see mid 2013?
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Khan says if brook beats alexander(jan 19th)he will fight him.
Will kell beat devon?
And is this a fight we will see mid 2013?
That fight needs to happen regardless imo. That fight would be massive domestically and would do very well globally.
I think Devon will upset the apple cart and I don’t think Khan should make a win by Brook the basis for a fight with him. He’s in no position to make those demands and is fast becoming an underachiever himself.
The problem for Kell against Devon is that he will be fighting a guy that’s as fast as he is and so far Kell has gotten away with stepping straight back with his lead hand down but his opponents thus far have not been able to cash in on that because they were not fast enough. Another factor to consider is the venue, I believe it will be at Madison Square Garden which may or may not affect Kell upstairs. If Kell does win he might tell Khan to take a hike or beat someone and fight his optional to which he would be entitled to do.
At least Brooks brings something to the table, but I think Khan is taking the slow and sfae route back which means he will take Hatton first. Hatton is the big fat golden goose.
Surely hatton wont risk a khan fight yet. Hatton needs 2-3 fights until khan.
Khan is still a good boxer and he must know his new trainer is his last chance.
Whether its devon or kell that wins khan still has to sort out possible rematches with peterson, garcia and prescott.
In fact, hatton might not really need that many fights before khan.
The more i think about it..khan is a disgrace.
He gets knocked out and beaten time after time and just avoids any threat while still making big money.
This is khans last chance.
Weather we like it or not, fighters don't fight for free Khan is shooting the shit as most fighters DO, toQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
generate interest and a big pay day. Let's face fact's it's a money driven sport, is it not Khan, Hatton,
etc they are all the same, they have lot's of money but I'm sure they would all like a bit MORE.;)
If Brook wins what possible claim will Hatton or Khan have for a challenge on ratings grounds?
This is clearly a side of UK boxing I don't get, Khan and Hatton are both two time recent losers yet they get bums on seats and TV money?
If there was any justice Kell would blank them and get big money US fights, let Khan versus Hatton become the only freakshow in town, maybe they could do ultimate fighting?
There's no one in the US barring Floyd or Pac that Kell would earn more against than Hatton and Khan.
Don't make it right though, just sad but true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
There's basically nothing fair about boxing. It doesn't matter how good you are it's just about what you sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomDon't make it right though, just sad but true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Plenty of "journeymen" types around the world could have been champions if they were born in the right place.
All 3 will try and negotiate the best deal from one another. Kell at least will bring a world title should he beat Alexander, Khan will need to acclimatise himself at the welterweight division and the best way for him to do that is by fighting Hatton who is the real cash cow and easier fight for both Khan and Kell.
Khan cannot leave the light welter divison a loser.
He needs to beat garcia and peterson before moving up.
It is about the money, if he can't get those fights he will move up.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Have you seen Alexander fight recently? He's a gun-shy spoiler. His speed only helps him clinch faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Brook is a big, strong, hard punching natural welterweight. Alexander looked lost against Bradley, and was bullied by Mathysse (who won that fight). He was terrified against the master of mediocrity Bailley. If he clinches as often as he usually does Brook will throw him around like a rag doll.
Brook's left hand is low...so what? Against a southpaw it is very often the best way of fighting, especially given Alexander's money shot straight left/left uppercut will be way off the mark as Brook steps back with his right hand guard up.
Yes I have followed his career and he destroyed Maidana and looks like a different fighter so far at 147. As far as being gun shy, he's only had 2 fights at 147 and his last was against one of the biggest punchers of this era. Of course he was gun shy and of course he would clinch.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobthepenHave you seen Alexander fight recently? He's a gun-shy spoiler. His speed only helps him clinch faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Brook is a big, strong, hard punching natural welterweight. Alexander looked lost against Bradley, and was bullied by Mathysse (who won that fight). He was terrified against the master of mediocrity Bailley. If he clinches as often as he usually does Brook will throw him around like a rag doll.
Brook's left hand is low...so what? Against a southpaw it is very often the best way of fighting, especially given Alexander's money shot straight left/left uppercut will be way off the mark as Brook steps back with his right hand guard up.
He outclassed Maidana, who was very poor on the night, but that is not the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitYes I have followed his career and he destroyed Maidana and looks like a different fighter so far at 147. As far as being gun shy, he's only had 2 fights at 147 and his last was against one of the biggest punchers of this era. Of course he was gun shy and of course he would clinch.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobthepenHave you seen Alexander fight recently? He's a gun-shy spoiler. His speed only helps him clinch faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Brook is a big, strong, hard punching natural welterweight. Alexander looked lost against Bradley, and was bullied by Mathysse (who won that fight). He was terrified against the master of mediocrity Bailley. If he clinches as often as he usually does Brook will throw him around like a rag doll.
Brook's left hand is low...so what? Against a southpaw it is very often the best way of fighting, especially given Alexander's money shot straight left/left uppercut will be way off the mark as Brook steps back with his right hand guard up.
Bailey is a puncher, yes, but he was way past his best and at his best was nothing special. Watch Cotto maul a younger, better Bailey and see how he should be handled, but again, not the point.
The point is, as you say, that Alexander has only had two fights at welterweight...Against two 140lb standouts with little or no pedigree at 147lbs. Brook is younger, bigger, faster, technically better and I will argue he hits harder too. He is a natural welter, and couldn't have made 140lbs without cutting off a leg.
If Alexander clinches to the degree he gets docked points against Bailey, he'll be clinging on like a fucking koala bear against Brook.
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Originally Posted by BobthepenHe outclassed Maidana, who was very poor on the night, but that is not the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitYes I have followed his career and he destroyed Maidana and looks like a different fighter so far at 147. As far as being gun shy, he's only had 2 fights at 147 and his last was against one of the biggest punchers of this era. Of course he was gun shy and of course he would clinch.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobthepenHave you seen Alexander fight recently? He's a gun-shy spoiler. His speed only helps him clinch faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Brook is a big, strong, hard punching natural welterweight. Alexander looked lost against Bradley, and was bullied by Mathysse (who won that fight). He was terrified against the master of mediocrity Bailley. If he clinches as often as he usually does Brook will throw him around like a rag doll.
Brook's left hand is low...so what? Against a southpaw it is very often the best way of fighting, especially given Alexander's money shot straight left/left uppercut will be way off the mark as Brook steps back with his right hand guard up.
Bailey is a puncher, yes, but he was way past his best and at his best was nothing special. Watch Cotto maul a younger, better Bailey and see how he should be handled, but again, not the point.
The point is, as you say, that Alexander has only had two fights at welterweight...Against two 140lb standouts with little or no pedigree at 147lbs. Brook is younger, bigger, faster, technically better and I will argue he hits harder too. He is a natural welter, and couldn't have made 140lbs without cutting off a leg.
If Alexander clinches to the degree he gets docked points against Bailey, he'll be clinging on like a fucking koala bear against Brook.
We will see and I'll stick to my original point that Brook steps straight back with his lead hand down and Devon will cash in on that.