Flintoff v Dawson Confirmed For November 30th | Boxing News
a 23 year old american fighter who is 2-0
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Flintoff v Dawson Confirmed For November 30th | Boxing News
a 23 year old american fighter who is 2-0
It's a Circus Flintoff, boxing all them pro fighters that never get a chance to get on TV, and a Cricketer
get's exposer. Turning boxing into a JOKE , sorry but what a load of bollocks.:vd:
Just ain't cricket.
So what do you want to happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Does every boxer have to have an amateur career? Or have to have an upbringing in boxing?
This can never make a mockery of boxing. I hate cricket but im definately interested to see how he will handle this major transition.
A millionaire celebrity decides to take a chance at boxing, takes a lot of interest and limelight away from professional boxing only to see it blow up in his face in 6months-1 years time.Quote:
Originally Posted by impSo what do you want to happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Does every boxer have to have an amateur career? Or have to have an upbringing in boxing?
This can never make a mockery of boxing. I hate cricket but im definately interested to see how he will handle this major transition.
The casual fan will leave disappointed and feeling mislead.
In the mean time a lot of hype will be needlessly be expended seeking profit but in no way benefiting boxing.
This distraction/career will refocus money/interest which would otherwise would of helped young fledgling boxers, generate quick profits and in no way benefits boxing.
Sorry for not getting excited.
Old Dick Dawson.....yup, salesman from Topeka. Best damned salesman you ever seen! He could sell sand to an Iraqi he could! He could also drink his weight in scotch....he fathered an entire little league team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Ta Dick Dawson! :alcoholic:
Boxing "harvesting" any exposure that isnt immediately negative, is positive for the sport.
Whether its Freddie,Ian Botham or Ricky Ponting, the sport is in the news. The fact it doesnt involve drugs or an assualt is a step in the right direction surely.
Shut up boya
If the man wants to box
Let him box
Rocky 6
Everybody has the right to attempt a boxing career if they so choose. That includes Dia Bando, Boyla and Andrew Flintoff.
Why should he be excluded just because he has already been successful in another sport?
What he is doing takes balls - as it does for anybody stepping in the ring.
people will watch no matter how much they protest the circus
This will be a good thing for boxing, Andrew respects boxing and is showing how hard it is. Good luck to him taking on an undefeated US salesman.
What I'm pissed about,there are a lot of hard working fighters out there that will never get ant limelight,Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
or a fight on TV, Ask a lot of pro fighter I bet , they are pissed off at all the hype he is receiving , good
for the circus .:plthumbsdown:
If it makes boxing look so bad why are Boxnation (Frank Warren's home of boxing) showing it?
Personally I hope he gets sparked out (without getting seriously hurt of course).
Ive been told that if Freddie wins this one easily , then after another 5 fights Tyson Fury will concider Dawson as a future opponant !
David Price and Nathan Cleverly get first dibs over Fury.
Just let all three of them fight each other in a royal rumble box off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I can't say I am terribly interested in this. Flintoff has been out of shape most of his life and now he wants to fight at 34? Maybe he can edge a couple, but his technique looks pretty poor. Fair play on wanting the challenge, but it is sad that it is getting so much attention. He doesn't deserve it.
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Originally Posted by Runnerboy
Good, accurate first post.
Welcome to the forum.
;D
This. I still can't believe they gave him a licence. It would appear anyone can pick one up now. I hear the BBBofC have just agreed a deal with McDonalds to issue them out as the next Happy Meal toy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
From what I have read McGuigan has said that Andrew has trained hard and that it will show boxing in a positive light, and that is good enough for me.
He retired from cricket because he wasn't able to get fit enough to play it so how the fuck can he get fit enough for a professional fight?
I reckon people shouldn't knock him untill he has fought, I look Freddie and who can't like him. He was such a good character for English cricket and I would be made up for him if he delivers in the ring! I can't wait to see him in action.
The unsung hero's, of boxing are the fighters on the under card, with out them there is no main event,
so when some washed up CRICKETER, gets the limelight how sad.
Remember you may not see them on the TV, or hear there names but they are the bread+ butter of
boxing, to Fucked to play cricket , lets see I want to be a PRO BOXER, what a crock of shit.:vd:
He is just having a go at a trade that he has always admired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
He hasn't asked for any 'hype' but why would he turn down a decent paycheck/tv coverage? He wouldn't. Nobody would. You can have a go at boxing if you want. Nobody is stopping you.
As for all the boxers that aren't on tv and names aren't known, well, winning sometimes would change that.
There is always a certain amount of skepticism associated with anyone who was successful in one sport and then decides to switch to another. Freddie's cricketing days are over so why not have a crack at something else? He obviously can't combine the both, those days are over when you had professional footballers in England turning out for the county cricket club during the off season. So Freddie fancies himself in the ring, what's wrong with that? He will find out soon enough if he really likes it.
I may be losing it but, Cricket has nothing in common with boxing,:confused: if you get a injury inQuote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
cricket and can't play,! how the hell are you going to box FIT.
I may not have taken my stupid tablets, this morning but all I'm hearing is a load of bollocks, all hype
yes you can box, any one can have a go. All this is a talking point , not the second coming of Tyson is
it , I no what I think:LOS:
Sorry to inform you but without a main event there is no undercard!!!! Main event comes first!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
I can see it now..... promoters putting months of hard work in getting an undercard of 4 round fighters together and then at the last moment scratch their head and think to themselves....."now who will we get as the main event".....its illogical!
Freddie is helping other fighters not only gain a payday but also some exposure on what will be a hyped event. Works for everyone from where I sit.
Dia you are wrong on this, it will be a good event and it will be good for boxing. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoI may be losing it but, Cricket has nothing in common with boxing,:confused: if you get a injury inQuote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
cricket and can't play,! how the hell are you going to box FIT.
I may not have taken my stupid tablets, this morning but all I'm hearing is a load of bollocks, all hype
yes you can box, any one can have a go. All this is a talking point , not the second coming of Tyson is
it , I no what I think:LOS:
When I go to watch a fight, I see ALL of them the under card the man event , my point is I'm not
star struck, Flintoff will make a bit of interest in the fight game,the novelty factor but not for me
to me it's more honest Brock getting into that ring. After all he is a winner plus I can't praise him
enough. ;D Brock put the check, in the post you no I'm very shallow.;D
Good luck to flintoff but the best outcome is if he gets knocked out.
Sorry.
Yes, good thought......I cant believe I didn't think of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
A guy who gives the sport hype, attention, brings in marketing dollars, gets punters in the door and gives other fighters exposure and media interest that they ordinarily don't receive.......yep,lets get him away from the sport and hope like hell he gets knocked out!
I can see your point........ best outcome for everybody, NOT!
This fight gives non boxing people the opportunity to see what we all see.....the more interest you can generate, the more the punters walk through the door and as a natural result more money is invested from sponsors and the sport starts to grow.
Lets not be so precious about welcoming perceived "non boxing people" into the sport that we love. If he is fit enough, tough enough and has all the characteristics of a good boxer then all credit to him. If he doesn't then I still say well done for climbing between the ropes and being gutsy enough to try the toughest sport in the world.
Taken from an article in The Independent August 2010Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoI may be losing it but, Cricket has nothing in common with boxing,:confused: if you get a injury inQuote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
cricket and can't play,! how the hell are you going to box FIT.
I may not have taken my stupid tablets, this morning but all I'm hearing is a load of bollocks, all hype
yes you can box, any one can have a go. All this is a talking point , not the second coming of Tyson is
it , I no what I think:LOS:
Heroes should always be remembered for what they were. Andrew Flintoff is a copper-bottomed hero. They do not come any more legitimate. An Ashes legend, an opponent who combined genius, skill and effort, a sportsman
nonpareil, a competitor who continually defied injury, a legendary drinker, a spontaneously amusing raconteur. He had the lot.
The announcement yesterday that he would miss the rest of this season because of a chronic knee complaint was almost as inevitable as it was comically sad. The immediate reaction to it among many people was probably: "Heavens, is he still around?"
It was in fact a chronic knee injury that ended his cricket career, i don't see the same stresses being applied with regards to boxing and Freddie's dodgy knees? He has had two years to recover, i am an Aussie and i admire Flintoff and what he has achieved, good luck to him in the ring, if it doesn't work out then so be it.
And when they watch mediocre boxing, and they leave disappointed then what.Quote:
Originally Posted by RunnerboyYes, good thought......I cant believe I didn't think of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
A guy who gives the sport hype, attention, brings in marketing dollars, gets punters in the door and gives other fighters exposure and media interest that they ordinarily don't receive.......yep,lets get him away from the sport and hope like hell he gets knocked out!
I can see your point........ best outcome for everybody, NOT!
This fight gives non boxing people the opportunity to see what we all see.....the more interest you can generate, the more the punters walk through the door and as a natural result more money is invested from sponsors and the sport starts to grow.
Lets not be so precious about welcoming perceived "non boxing people" into the sport that we love. If he is fit enough, tough enough and has all the characteristics of a good boxer then all credit to him. If he doesn't then I still say well done for climbing between the ropes and being gutsy enough to try the toughest sport in the world.
Will they believe the hype, is the fight not going to be over hyped.
If you think this is a great opportunity, should this effort and attention not be focused on good fighters and good fights.
Or just sell the public some bullshit, or have hero freddy beat some bums and land a alphabet title.
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Originally Posted by boylaAnd when they watch mediocre boxing, and they leave disappointed then what.Quote:
Originally Posted by RunnerboyYes, good thought......I cant believe I didn't think of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
A guy who gives the sport hype, attention, brings in marketing dollars, gets punters in the door and gives other fighters exposure and media interest that they ordinarily don't receive.......yep,lets get him away from the sport and hope like hell he gets knocked out!
I can see your point........ best outcome for everybody, NOT!
This fight gives non boxing people the opportunity to see what we all see.....the more interest you can generate, the more the punters walk through the door and as a natural result more money is invested from sponsors and the sport starts to grow.
Lets not be so precious about welcoming perceived "non boxing people" into the sport that we love. If he is fit enough, tough enough and has all the characteristics of a good boxer then all credit to him. If he doesn't then I still say well done for climbing between the ropes and being gutsy enough to try the toughest sport in the world.
Will they believe the hype, is the fight not going to be over hyped.
If you think this is a great opportunity, should this effort and attention not be focused on good fighters and good fights.
Or just sell the public some bullshit, or have hero freddy beat some bums and land a alphabet title.
Like any fight card in the world there is a chance that spectators will be disappointed.....its the game and such is life. The fact that we have the sport back in the news is only good for the sport. Even if he cant hold his hands up the fight is attracting attention it otherwise would not.
Dont hold your breath waiting for good fighters and great fights and while you are waiting for a perfect boxing world to take shape, MMA and other crap sports start stealing market share with aggressive marketing campaigns and news headlines, which in turn take the attention of spectators and sponsorship dollars.
Boxing lives on stories, it needs them to survive, this is just another one, good bad or ugly!
Hell what's Happening, some of you lot are talking like star struck schoolgirls, he's a CRICKETER, who
fancy's doing a bit of boxing.! Brockton is more honest, in his approach to boxing all-way's wanted to
box done it and won. No bullshit no hype just, a honest beer + food loving guy Brock should be on the
TV, a true STAR. Flintoff My Arss.;D
Flintoff is training and dieting hard whereas Brock is.... not. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
I shall support Brock, as he needs it all that eating and drinking true sports man I tell you,;D Flintoff whoQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFlintoff is training and dieting hard whereas Brock is.... not. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
the hell is he, Brockton is the man I'm coming all over star struck.:rolleyes3: ;D
Noone seems starstruck. Some are just saying he isn't really doing any harm by having a go at boxing. That's all. How is Brockton more 'honest'? That's shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Also, could you point out where all the 'hype' is? I haven't really caught any 'hype'. Nor have I heard Flintoff or anyone surrounding him claimng him to be anything that he's not.
Also, he isn't taking any attention away from anyone. The undercard fighters that you are concerned about haven't been robbed of a headliner spot by Flintoff.
well, some folks say any publicity is good publiciity, I disagree, can I have a boxing licence please now or do I get one from a kinder egg?