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Bit of a twist on @smashup s thread.
Burley/Robinson @160
Duran/Arguello @135
Chandler/Pintor@118
Sanchez/Arguello @130
Arbachakov/2 sharp @112
Pedroza/Sanchez @126
Toney/Jackson @160
The entire Murders row member’s vs any champ of their day.
Oscar/Zu @140
Adamek/Haye@200
Jones/Benn@168
Quartey/Trinidad @147
Norris/Trinidad@154 or Hearns/McCallum
Hill/Williams@175
Lewis/Bowe@hev
Sadly all of them could have actually been made along with plenty of others.
Tyson vs A Southpaw
Golata vs 1 of the k2
Bowe v Lewis - was a real shame they didnt fight as pro's.
Tyson v Witherspoon - the only fighter i thought during the HW competition who could have tested Tyson , but he came in fat and got TKO by Bonecrusher.
Layla Ali vs Trish Stratus.
Experimental, of course. :cool:
PBF v Pac now falls into this category, and may very well be the only one where the #1 and #2 P4P fighters never met. Barring a miraculous return to form by Pac, the moment is over. And even then, PBF isn't exactly a spring chicken.
Would've loved to have seen Tyson v Foreman. Foreman came back during Tyson's peak but was viewed as a joke. However, he proved to be for real...retaining his power coupled with a weird but oddly effective defense. He never hit the canvas.
Of course, he could be rather easily outboxed but how would Tyson pull that off? Styles make fights and Tyson was essentially Frazier. Ergo, a Foreman fight risky. It would've been high-drama to see if Tyson could get to Foreman before Foreman landed one of his heavy punches.
JC Chavez v Azumah Nelson
Pernell Whitaker v Meldrick Taylor...you don't often see a defensive genius fight someone faster than he is.
A prime Michael Nunn ('88-'89) against any of the Big Names...Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran.
Hatton- Witter just so Junior would STFU. Ricky would have retired him.
Calzaghe-Froch would have no doubt been one of the biggest British fights of all time if they had both rose to the top at the same time.
Personally I still reckon Calazaghe should just get fit and have a crack at Froch, but I know he's been out for a while and Hatton has showed us long inactivity + cocaine = a loss.
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Originally Posted by IamInuit
Tremendous matchups, all of them.
Not a big Bowe fan, however... and I would've loved to have seen Lewis sweep the ring canvas with him.
Whitaker vs Camacho
Tyson vs Toney
Holmes vs Foreman
JMM vs Morales
Audley Harrison - Vitali/Wlad Klitshcko
Who? The only one I could think of that would have been a compelling matchup was Michael Moorer, and I think they missed each other's times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
To me, the biggest blown fight ever will ALWAYS be Pac vs PBF. You had two MEGASTARS at the top of their sport, around the same weight, in their absolute PRIMES, and it never happened because of their egos and even if it does happen in the future, it won't even come close to matching the luster that it would have had they did it at the right time.
Agreed 100%. Since the fight, Pac has lost twice (one by BRUTAL ko) and although Floyd is still undefeated, he is now showing signs of slowing with age IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manju
They had a window of opportunity to make the fight of the century and they blew it.
Pac/May
Johnson/Langford 2
Johnson/Jeanette
Dempsey/Langford
Dempsey/Greb
Dempsey/Wills
SugarRayRobinson-Black Murderer's Row e.g. Buley, prime Bivins etc.
Calzaghe/Froch
Tyson v Holyfield (pre jail)
Holmes v Foreman (1970's)
Herol Graham v Hagler
Herol Graham v Eubanks
Herol Graham v Watson
Ha! Loving the bomber matchups. (:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Don't think I saw it mentioned but for me it would be prime hagler v prime leonard. I know it probably gets talked about so much it gets boring but woulda been a good one. Also La Motta V Cerdan 2 would have been good too. And seeing Teofilo stephenson v Ali in 76 might have been a bit tasty, but of course the love of a million cubans was better than $8 dollars
EDIT Pryor V leonard
Dempsey v Wills
Langford v Johnson
SRR vs. Charley Burley would've been a hell of a fight. Both were reluctant because the money wouldn't have been there but it would've been epic. Many though that Burley had the best shot of beating SRR.
That is not true. Burley would have fought Robinson for his rent. Robinson avoided the entire Murderers Row fighting Wade after he had been retired for over two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by TysonBomb
Well Robinson was reluctant ... and Burley didn't blame him.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitThat is not true. Burley would have fought Robinson for his rent. Robinson avoided the entire Murderers Row fighting Wade after he had been retired for over two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by TysonBomb
No one fought those guys ... HIGH risk and low reward/pay fights. But I think Robinson should've fought at least one of them ... the opportunity had to be there at some point. He can fight Jake LaMotta 6 times but not Burley or any of the Murderers Row guys even once?
Great input u guys. Here is a few more that could have been made:
Esparragoza v Fenech
McGuigan v Nelson
Mosley v Mayweather (late 90's)
Whitaker v Quartey
Pedroza V Lopez
Starling v Brown 2
Chavez v Coggi
^ Floyd said that he offered Mosley a fight in 1999/2000 or the early 2000s but the Mosley camp rejected it.
Floyd would beat him then just like he beat him in '10 IMO
Mismatch, Audley is levels above them. The brothers are just lucky Audley doesn't feel like proving it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Mosley vs. Trinidad
Mosley vs. Quartey
Trinidad vs. Quartey
Mayweather vs. Pacquiao
Pavlik vs. Abraham (When both undefeated champions @ 160)
Gatti vs. Corrales
Hatton vs. Corrales
Lewis vs. Bowe
Lewis vs. Tyson (Pre Jail)
Calzaghe vs. Collins
Mayweather vs. Cotto (Just after the Hatton fight)
Duddy vs. Lee
De La Hoya vs. Winky
Jones Jr. vs. DM
Cotto vs. Castillo @ 140
Eubank vs. Benn III
JMM vs. Morales
Gamboa vs. JuanMa (Even though I think Gamboa would have killed him, it should have happened when they both had an 0)
Andre Ward vs. Evander Holyfield vs. Timothy Bradley vs. Bernard Hopkins in a 4 way last man standing headbutting contest
Floyd and Tszyu @ 140 on Floyds way up.
In recent times:
Mayweather vs. Margarito after the first Margarito vs. Cotto fight.
Mayweather vs. Williams after Williams beat Margarito
Valero versus _____
Martinez vs. Cotto
Historians of the board:
How about the twenties and thirties outside of the heavyweight division?
Greb vs. Langford
Remembered another one Finito v Carbajal ?
Fun stuff! But I always repeat myself ;D
Many have been mentioned that are certains, Joltin Jeff vs Pintor, Lewis v Bowe, Dempsey v Wills, LaMotta v Cerdan (I always thought that was somewhat in the works when fate found Cerdan early?), Esparragoza v Fenech, on and on. Solid calls
A few off the top Carbajal v Lopez too. Mark Johnson v Tapia was a real miss! Chavez v Whitaker II...draw my ass. Jones jr v Benn or Euabank or Darius. Hamed v Marquez. Lt Hvy Michael Moorer v P.C Williams or Hill. Canizales v Galaxy. T Norris v Julio C Vasquez...I think that would have been a train wreck of a solid scrap! Brandon Rios v any available Hummer truck?
On the Cerdan v La Motta rematch I think Cerdan was actually on a flight to America to fight la Motta when the plane crashed, so yeah it was a definite goer until fate stepped in as you say. So a vastly different reason for not happening from say leonard v pryorQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Cotto vs Mayweather (before first Margarito fight)
Mayweather vs Margarito (2005 - 2006)
Jones vs Benn
Lewis vs Vitali 2
I wouldn't mind finding more on Cerdan at all. Jake knew that left was gimp and from what I've seen Cerdan had a very decent, sneaky left hook. He was built like a tank, too bad it all ended badly & early for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderOn the Cerdan v La Motta rematch I think Cerdan was actually on a flight to America to fight la Motta when the plane crashed, so yeah it was a definite goer until fate stepped in as you say. So a vastly different reason for not happening from say leonard v pryorQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Cerdan would have won on points.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI wouldn't mind finding more on Cerdan at all. Jake knew that left was gimp and from what I've seen Cerdan had a very decent, sneaky left hook. He was built like a tank, too bad it all ended badly & early for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderOn the Cerdan v La Motta rematch I think Cerdan was actually on a flight to America to fight la Motta when the plane crashed, so yeah it was a definite goer until fate stepped in as you say. So a vastly different reason for not happening from say leonard v pryorQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli