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Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
Seeing Tony Thompson come in at a whopping 262 a full 20 pounds over the heaviest weight he's ever fought at has me wondering....when has a guy come into the ring a huge under dog, been a total lard ass, and pulled off the upset? The closest I can think of is the late Corrie Sanders vs Wladimir, maybe Tex Cobb vs Earnie Shavers?
Can you guys think of any? Surely it has happened albeit infrequently but it has to have occured before. I remember Buster Douglas used to go into fights flabby, but vs Tyson he looked in great shape.
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
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El Kabong
Seeing Tony Thompson come in at a whopping 262 a full 20 pounds over the heaviest weight he's ever fought at has me wondering....when has a guy come into the ring a huge under dog, been a total lard ass, and pulled off the upset? The closest I can think of is the late Corrie Sanders vs Wladimir, maybe Tex Cobb vs Earnie Shavers?
Can you guys think of any? Surely it has happened albeit infrequently but it has to have occured before. I remember Buster Douglas used to go into fights flabby, but vs Tyson he looked in great shape.
Wrong...
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Sorry, "almost 20 pounds heavier than his last fight" .....either way there's no getting around it, Thompson isn't in good shape for this fight.
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
I would say all fights James Toney has fought at heavyweight.
........ especially the part about being a total lard ass.
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
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El Kabong
Seeing Tony Thompson come in at a whopping 262 a full 20 pounds over the heaviest weight he's ever fought at has me wondering....when has a guy come into the ring a huge under dog, been a total lard ass, and pulled off the upset? The closest I can think of is the late Corrie Sanders vs Wladimir, maybe Tex Cobb vs Earnie Shavers?
Can you guys think of any? Surely it has happened albeit infrequently but it has to have occured before. I remember Buster Douglas used to go into fights flabby, but vs Tyson he looked in great shape.
Also wrong...
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
Corrie was just 225, but he was not in peak condition.
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ruthless rocco
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El Kabong
Seeing Tony Thompson come in at a whopping 262 a full 20 pounds over the heaviest weight he's ever fought at has me wondering....when has a guy come into the ring a huge under dog, been a total lard ass, and pulled off the upset? The closest I can think of is the late Corrie Sanders vs Wladimir, maybe Tex Cobb vs Earnie Shavers?
Can you guys think of any? Surely it has happened albeit infrequently but it has to have occured before. I remember Buster Douglas used to go into fights flabby, but vs Tyson he looked in great shape.
Also wrong...
Oh yeah. Corrie Sanders was a chiseled physical specimen when he fought Wlad.
:rolleyes:
Except that his waistline was bigger around than his chest.
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
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TitoFan
Oh yeah. Corrie Sanders was a chiseled physical specimen when he fought Wlad.
:rolleyes:
Except that his waistline was bigger around than his chest.
No helping it TitoFan, best not to argue with anyone....I mean they've obviously never been wrong before
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El Kabong
Corrie was just 225, but he was not in peak condition.
225 for a guy thats 6'4". sounds like good shape to me.
looking like an adonis cut from stone doesn't mean you're in shape or not in peak condition especially in the heavies.
the division if full of fat fucks. look at tua or peter they were destroyers. but by your definition out of shape.
do you even watch heavyweight boxing?
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El Kabong
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TitoFan
Oh yeah. Corrie Sanders was a chiseled physical specimen when he fought Wlad.
:rolleyes:
Except that his waistline was bigger around than his chest.
No helping it TitoFan, best not to argue with anyone....I mean they've obviously never been wrong before
I'm one of the lucky ones. He has me on permanent ignore. ;D
Meanwhile, I see he continues his abrasive ways.
Mentioning Tua and Peter says nothing. Both are heavy, squat, powerfully built fighters. Sanders looked like a weekend warrior, with little definition on his arms and chest, and a noticeable paunch. But whatever..... :rolleyes:
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
Erik Morales came close to pulling off the upset against Maidana while completely out of shape
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
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ElTerribleMorales
Erik Morales came close to pulling off the upset against Maidana while completely out of shape
Holy shit someone attempted to answer the actual question rather than bitch about anything I said.....give the man a prize!!!
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ruthless rocco
225 for a guy thats 6'4". sounds like good shape to me.
looking like an adonis cut from stone doesn't mean you're in shape or not in peak condition especially in the heavies.
the division if full of fat fucks. look at tua or peter they were destroyers. but by your definition out of shape.
do you even watch heavyweight boxing?
http://rt.com/files/sport/boxing/cor...t-champion.jpg
chiseled out of granite I tell you.....do I even watch boxing? Thanks for that predictible bush league bullshit.
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El Kabong
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ElTerribleMorales
Erik Morales came close to pulling off the upset against Maidana while completely out of shape
Holy shit someone attempted to answer the actual question rather than bitch about anything I said.....give the man a prize!!!
its hard to answer a question when its examples given to support it are inflammatory and inaccurate.
also i've provided tua, peter and rahman. you have no comment.
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
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El Kabong
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ruthless rocco
225 for a guy thats 6'4". sounds like good shape to me.
looking like an adonis cut from stone doesn't mean you're in shape or not in peak condition especially in the heavies.
the division if full of fat fucks. look at tua or peter they were destroyers. but by your definition out of shape.
do you even watch heavyweight boxing?
http://rt.com/files/sport/boxing/cor...t-champion.jpg
chiseled out of granite I tell you.....do I even watch boxing? Thanks for that predictible bush league bullshit.
i think you may need help with your reading comprehension. i didn't say sanders was cut. quite the opposite. what i said was that you don't have to be chiseled to be in shape.
also, i said heavyweight boxing. learn to read.
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ruthless rocco
its hard to answer a question when its examples given to support it are inflammatory and inaccurate.
also i've provided tua, peter and rahman. you have no comment.
How is it inflamatory you stupid cunt?
http://www.jamati.com/online/wp-cont...sonsanders.jpg
Corrie Sanders was a damned Greek God! Not an ounce of fat on him....eh you twat
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El Kabong
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ruthless rocco
its hard to answer a question when its examples given to support it are inflammatory and inaccurate.
also i've provided tua, peter and rahman. you have no comment.
How is it inflamatory you stupid cunt?
http://www.jamati.com/online/wp-cont...sonsanders.jpg
Corrie Sanders was a damned Greek God! Not an ounce of fat on him....eh you twat
you can't read.
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You never explained how it's inflamatory & I only called you a cunt & a twat because if I'm going to be accused of being "inflamatory" then by God I will fucking be inflamatory
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El Kabong
You never explained how it's inflamatory & I only called you a cunt & a twat because if I'm going to be accused of being "inflamatory" then by God I will fucking be inflamatory
i'd explain... but by misunderstanding all my other posts you've proven you can't read so i'll not bother.
carry on.
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
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ruthless rocco
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El Kabong
You never explained how it's inflamatory & I only called you a cunt & a twat because if I'm going to be accused of being "inflamatory" then by God I will fucking be inflamatory
i'd explain... but by misunderstanding all my other posts you've proven you can't read so i'll not bother.
carry on.
....fine go home & play with you dollies
There were other fat heavyweights that were underdogs that pulled off upsets & you could have said "Hey, how about _____ vs ______?" but no, you chose the "I wanna be an asshole" path so I hope you're having fun with it. I mentioned Sanders vs Wlad #1 Because it was a huge upset (that wrong? Am I wrong in saying that???) and #2 Sanders had pretty much retired from boxing at that point to try and be a golfer ergo he had not been 100% focused in training for the fight vs Wladimir. #3 Yes just because you're not built like Herecles doesn't mean you're out of shape HOWEVER looking like Phil Mickleson doesn't help your case when it comes to the "Is he in shape?" question.
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El Kabong
Sorry, "almost 20 pounds heavier than his last fight" .....either way there's no getting around it, Thompson isn't in good shape for this fight.
No, you didnt say last fight did you now you little pickle pants...
You said "ever". If its ever, then he has weighed 260lb in 2004. Yes thats from boxrec, I dont care hat much about Tony Thompson;D
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
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ruthless rocco
also i've provided tua, peter and rahman. you have no comment.
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El Kabong
There were other fat heavyweights that were underdogs that pulled off upsets & you could have said "Hey, how about _____ vs ______?" but no, you chose the "I wanna be an asshole" path so I hope you're having fun with it. I mentioned Sanders vs Wlad #1 Because it was a huge upset (that wrong? Am I wrong in saying that???) and #2 Sanders had pretty much retired from boxing at that point to try and be a golfer ergo he had not been 100% focused in training for the fight vs Wladimir. #3 Yes just because you're not built like Herecles doesn't mean you're out of shape HOWEVER looking like Phil Mickleson doesn't help your case when it comes to the "Is he in shape?" question.
Lyle, he keeps on bringing up Tua and Peter. Both are completely different built than Sanders. They're naturally squat, thick-built bodies. Sanders had skinny legs, skinny arms, skinny chest.... and a belly paunch, giving him that weekend warrior look.
But the little obnoxious shit has me on ignore and will never see those explanations. Feel free to explain them to him if you're so inclined (although you can't be blamed if you don't).
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
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El Kabong
Seeing Tony Thompson come in at a whopping 262 a full 20 pounds over the heaviest weight he's ever fought at has me wondering....when has a guy come into the ring a huge under dog, been a total lard ass, and pulled off the upset? The closest I can think of is the late Corrie Sanders vs Wladimir, maybe Tex Cobb vs Earnie Shavers?
Can you guys think of any? Surely it has happened albeit infrequently but it has to have occured before. I remember Buster Douglas used to go into fights flabby, but vs Tyson he looked in great shape.
Great question EL and a real head scratcher especially being a tad hung over. Take awhile to think about the weight classes outside of hev which is probably where most of these upsets took place but hev is the most recognizable. How about Foreman/Moore EL? George was heavier in previous fights but he looked gassed in rd 3 and hadn't thrown anything. He was 45 I think and being served up as a name. It looked like to me that he didn't train for the fight fuel wise.
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Tank Murdock bt Philo Beddoe in 1978
Murdock was fat as fuck and past it
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Mark TKO
Tank Murdock bt Philo Beddoe in 1978
Murdock was fat as fuck and past it
Bedoe took pity on him and took a dive.
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Butterbean has never been in shape. Larry Holmes over Ray Mercer comes to mind. Foreman over Moorer. Altought both Holmes and Foreman were old.
Mccbride and Williams over Tyson. There's more out there
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The cigarette smoking Mayorga over Forest.
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gest12645
Butterbean has never been in shape. Larry Holmes over Ray Mercer comes to mind. Foreman over Moorer. Altought both Holmes and Foreman were old.
Mccbride and Williams over Tyson. There's more out there
You took the words right out of my cock
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And who has Butterbean upset exactly:confused:;D Hell if he had managed to win a round against a half dead Larry Holmes that would've been his career high. Saying that Larry Holmes isn't a bad shout himself here, he was OLD when he beat a prime Ray Mercer, who really must've been a huge favourite in that one.. Elterrible's call was the best so far imo. Morales was a guy who was moving up in weight to fight a very dangerous puncher after all the wars he'd been through and at his age. He looked soft and ill prepared, cut/swole up more easily than I'd ever seen before and was in quite a bit of trouble early on in that fight. He got back into things and imo should've won a close decision basically on sheer grit and past instincts. The whole scenario is much less likely at the lower weights as well, in theory Erik should've been retired that night and most people expected it.
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Id say Duran above 154 was out of shape so his win over Barkley was quite exceptional.
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When I read the title I was excited about this thread. But thanks to you pricks And your specifics i was wrong to be so.
I hope you all break ankles.
And a big unlucky, to the threads stater.
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jon09
The cigarette smoking Mayorga over Forest.
Good call but a lot of people say that Mayorga was just being a showman pulling off media stunts like smoking and eating chicken wings while weighing in. It certainly was an upset though.
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ross
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El Kabong
Seeing Tony Thompson come in at a whopping 262 a full 20 pounds over the heaviest weight he's ever fought at has me wondering....when has a guy come into the ring a huge under dog, been a total lard ass, and pulled off the upset? The closest I can think of is the late Corrie Sanders vs Wladimir, maybe Tex Cobb vs Earnie Shavers?
Can you guys think of any? Surely it has happened albeit infrequently but it has to have occured before. I remember Buster Douglas used to go into fights flabby, but vs Tyson he looked in great shape.
Wrong...
WELL DONE! HURRAY!! YOU DID IT!!!
http://www.psdgraphics.com/wp-conten.../10/trophy.jpg
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This one didnt, but he real came close a couple of times:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TkC1...feature=player
Interesting interviews in between the fight.
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Re: Whn has an out of shape fighter pulled off the upset?
Tony Thompson vs David Price ;D
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jon09
Tony Thompson vs David Price ;D
(try sounding it out carefully as you read it.)
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Not so much an upset, but how about Tim Wetherspoon vs Bruno.
He was obese, had massive boobs
An looked like he'd never visited a gym.
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he was obese and had massive boobs ;D
Brilliant
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Tony Tubbs beating the unbeaten Zolkin, and giving Bowe hell, comes to mind.
