When is Helenius going to step up?
Ok... why isn't Helenius stepping up? Why is he fighting these journeymen and over-hyped, made to order fighters?
Journeymen like Sprott won't do. Over-hyped fighters like Del-Boy Chisora won't do. The least meaningful fight Helenius had was with Brewster when he beat him up REAL bad. I thought it wouldn't be long before he got better and better fights. But, he is, tonight, fighting Michael Sprott??
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Helenius needs to get his next three fights with either of these names:
Wach, Wilder, Arreola, Stiverne, Charr, Solis, Povetkin, Fury, Jennings, Adamek, Banks, Briggs (Shannon), Johnson, Thompson and/or Mitchell.
Helenius won't fight for a title (unless Povetkin keeps his) anytime this century if he keeps on fighting these useless fights!
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ykdadamaja
Ok... why isn't Helenius stepping up? Why is he fighting these journeymen and over-hyped, made to order fighters?
Journeymen like Sprott won't do. Over-hyped fighters like Del-Boy Chisora won't do. The least meaningful fight Helenius had was with Brewster when he beat him up REAL bad. I thought it wouldn't be long before he got better and better fights. But, he is, tonight, fighting Michael Sprott??
:confused::confused::confused:
Look:
Helenius needs to get his next three fights with either of these names:
Wach, Wilder, Arreola, Stiverne, Charr, Solis, Povetkin, Fury, Jennings, Adamek, Banks, Briggs (Shannon), Johnson, Thompson and/or Mitchell.
Helenius won't fight for a title (unless Povetkin keeps his) anytime this century if he keeps on fighting these useless fights!
Most likely not stepping up cause he may just not be all that good. He looked great against peter, brewster, and lyhkovich those were names but they had all their fight beat out of them by the time helenius faced em.
That's what I mean? I thought by now he would be fighting for a title. But he isn't putting himself anywhere near a title fight.
Ok, the Peter fight should have put him right in position for a major contender fight. But since then he has not been fighting top-notch opponents, and he can do it.
He doesn't have a bad chin, he has decent stamina and his power is fairly decent for his frame. So, what's the beef?
You know what? He needs to get fights out of Finland man. In fact, he needs more fights in the UK and Germany... if he doesn't want to travel to the USA.
But, those names you added, Peter, Lyakovich and Brewster (to some extent) were beaten and bruised up guys after they had their title runs.
We ain't fooled by that!
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He didnt really look decent tonight, he won but it was very boring really.
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It's a bit rich to call Chisora over hyped when he clearly beat Helenius. Helenius is many kinds of rubbish.
Pretty much what I was going to say. I'd have probably rambled on a bit more though.
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It's a bit rich to call Chisora over hyped when he clearly beat Helenius. Helenius is many kinds of rubbish.
You can say Chisora beat Helenius. He also stole one from Tank Williams, which should have easily have been a draw.
How can a guy that beat Peter and Brewster to crisps, just totally bum out against mediocre and average opposition?
Let's be fair, Chisora is average and Tank Williams is mediocre.
;D
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He doesn't come off as a guy enthused about what he does for a living and he has lost his career momentum off early wins. Sprott was clocking him with wind up clean shots. His condition and hair cut are not the problem.
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Fuck off is this a serious thread
You know he was laid off because of injury and just made a come back where he struggled.
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Helenius has reached his limit and it's obvious he sucks. His promoter should cash out by feeding him to Tyson Fury..
Fury KO7 Helenius
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Yes helenius is looking so poor , FAT MICK will be trying to make a fight with Fury.
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Sherman Williams rocked Helenius badly last time out, but he did not deserve a draw. Helenius beat him, as well he should have.
Sprott pounded the big lop dick some good ones too.
Spicoli, I think you got it. Lop dick is def not hungry and has regressed. A bit like Sam Peter did after the second Toney fight.
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Helenius has never had a draw mate.
I don't think he'll step up, if he does I think he'll be found out, just like price was and fury will be.
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Vendettos
Helenius has never had a draw mate.
I don't think he'll step up, if he does I think he'll be found out, just like price was and fury will be.
Yes, I'm aware sir. I was responding to another boxing nerd who said he thought the fight with Sherman Williams should have been a draw, when it should not have.
I say Helenius vs. Malik Scott next ! Let's see that shit !
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Helenius has never had a draw mate.
I don't think he'll step up, if he does I think he'll be found out, just like price was and fury will be.
Yes, I'm aware sir. I was responding to another boxing nerd who said he thought the fight with Sherman Williams should have been a draw, when it should not have.
I say Helenius vs. Malik Scott next ! Let's see that shit !
Ah my bad mate.
I like Malik Scott but he's a bit featherfisted for a heavyweight, yet entertaining and effective.
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Vendettos
Helenius has never had a draw mate.
I don't think he'll step up, if he does I think he'll be found out, just like price was and fury will be.
Yes, I'm aware sir. I was responding to another boxing nerd who said he thought the fight with Sherman Williams should have been a draw, when it should not have.
I say Helenius vs. Malik Scott next ! Let's see that shit !
Watch that fight again. What did Helenius REALLY do to win that fight? If that fight was on US soil, it would have been a draw. But because Helenius was at his home crowd, he got the off-the-top points from the judges- and judges need to stop that shit. Because guys like Mayweather come in with points already scored, just for showing up!!
Helenius LOST that fight with Chisora. Chisora was robbed.
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It's a bit rich to call Chisora over hyped when he clearly beat Helenius. Helenius is many kinds of rubbish.
You can say Chisora beat Helenius. He also stole one from Tank Williams, which should have easily have been a draw.
How can a guy that beat Peter and Brewster to crisps, just totally bum out against mediocre and average opposition?
Let's be fair, Chisora is average and Tank Williams is mediocre.
;D
But Peter was only ever slightly above average. Slow and fat. Beating a washed up version of this fighter isn't impressive.
I won't argue there. Sam Peter is a long ways from the guy that tore Maskaev and Williams's head's off and the one that knocked Wladimir down three times.
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ykdadamaja
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Hulk
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Vendettos
Helenius has never had a draw mate.
I don't think he'll step up, if he does I think he'll be found out, just like price was and fury will be.
Yes, I'm aware sir. I was responding to another boxing nerd who said he thought the fight with Sherman Williams should have been a draw, when it should not have.
I say Helenius vs. Malik Scott next ! Let's see that shit !
Watch that fight again. What did Helenius REALLY do to win that fight? If that fight was on US soil, it would have been a draw. But because Helenius was at his home crowd, he got the off-the-top points from the judges- and judges need to stop that shit. Because guys like Mayweather come in with points already scored, just for showing up!!
Helenius LOST that fight with Chisora. Chisora was robbed.
I watched it closely the first time and was rooting hard for Sherman the whole way. He simply did not do enough to earn a draw. He fought his fat ass off though. Guy's a rugged warrior.
Yes Chisora won damn near every round. Top 3 worst robberies of last year.
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At least Helenius brings some new blood to the HW decision, he'll always be a contender, and never defeat a Klitscko brother, but there's some decent scraps for him down the line. Ever notice how Helenius keeps getting "injured"?
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ykdadamaja
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Hulk
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Vendettos
Helenius has never had a draw mate.
I don't think he'll step up, if he does I think he'll be found out, just like price was and fury will be.
Yes, I'm aware sir. I was responding to another boxing nerd who said he thought the fight with Sherman Williams should have been a draw, when it should not have.
I say Helenius vs. Malik Scott next ! Let's see that shit !
Watch that fight again. What did Helenius REALLY do to win that fight? If that fight was on US soil, it would have been a draw. But because Helenius was at his home crowd, he got the off-the-top points from the judges- and judges need to stop that shit. Because guys like Mayweather come in with points already scored, just for showing up!!
Helenius LOST that fight with Chisora. Chisora was robbed.
I watched it closely the first time and was rooting hard for Sherman the whole way. He simply did not do enough to earn a draw. He fought his fat ass off though. Guy's a rugged warrior.
Yes Chisora won damn near every round. Top 3 worst robberies of last year.
Williams ain't fat, it's just his body type. Most guys will never get that chisled look.
Anyways, I scored the fight a draw. Helenius didn't deserve the off the top decision.
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As bad as Helenius is he has come back from a serious injury and he it has stalled his development. I do not think he will be great but he does take a good punch and as some heart.
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Look:
Helenius needs to get his next three fights with either of these names:
Wach, Wilder, Arreola, Stiverne, Charr, Solis, Povetkin, Fury, Jennings, Adamek, Banks, Briggs (Shannon), Johnson, Thompson and/or Mitchell.
!
Solis? Briggs? Stiverne? What will this do for him?
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Look:
Helenius needs to get his next three fights with either of these names:
Wach, Wilder, Arreola, Stiverne, Charr, Solis, Povetkin, Fury, Jennings, Adamek, Banks, Briggs (Shannon), Johnson, Thompson and/or Mitchell.
!
Solis? Briggs? Stiverne? What will this do for him?
Stiverne actually beat Helenius and David Price in the amatuers and has built up a solid and respectable record for himself, making his way up the ladder. It would prove to people like myself that Helenius can fight up and coming, hard hitting boxers that can fight. Stiverne can fight.
Solis is another good boxing test for Helenius, and Solis has a name brand you can relate to. Solis is also an up and coming prospect who lobbied himself, much quicker than Helenius has, to a fight for the title againts Vitali. Sure, the fight ended in a shit fashion- but he lobbied himself to get there. Helenius doesn't look like he wants to fight the big fights, if he takes this and tags himself to the Solis fight with Vitali, he can move one inch closer to a belt and some respect!
I kid you not- Briggs is a lot better than many of the guys out there in the fringes. He also fought Vitali, plus he is seen as a durable fighter. Hard hitting and very exciting. Can carry KO power into the late rounds, plus experience in with being a name brand. He doesn't have to take a Briggs fight, but people would believe he is something more than what he is if he takes a fight like a Shannon Briggs. Plus, Briggs is no Rahman- who is all about done, fat and lazy!
I would believe Briggs would get another shot at a title against the Klits than Helenius is to getting one shot at the Klits, or Povetkin for that matter!
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ykdadamaja
Look:
Helenius needs to get his next three fights with either of these names:
Wach, Wilder, Arreola, Stiverne, Charr, Solis, Povetkin, Fury, Jennings, Adamek, Banks, Briggs (Shannon), Johnson, Thompson and/or Mitchell.
!
Solis? Briggs? Stiverne? What will this do for him?
Stiverne actually beat Helenius and David Price in the amatuers and has built up a solid and respectable record for himself, making his way up the ladder. It would prove to people like myself that Helenius can fight up and coming, hard hitting boxers that can fight. Stiverne can fight.
Solis is another good boxing test for Helenius, and Solis has a name brand you can relate to. Solis is also an up and coming prospect who lobbied himself, much quicker than Helenius has, to a fight for the title againts Vitali. Sure, the fight ended in a shit fashion- but he lobbied himself to get there. Helenius doesn't look like he wants to fight the big fights, if he takes this and tags himself to the Solis fight with Vitali, he can move one inch closer to a belt and some respect!
I kid you now- Briggs is a lot better than many of the guys out there in the fringes. He also fought Vitali, plus he is seen as a durable fighter. Hard hitting and very exciting. Can carry KO power into the late rounds, plus experience in with being a name brand. He doesn't have to take a Briggs fight, but people would believe he is something more than what he is if he takes a fight like a Shannon Briggs. Plus, Briggs is no Rahman- who is all about done, fat and lazy!
I would believe Briggs would get another shot at a title against the Klits than Helenius is to getting one shot at the Klits, or Povetkin for that matter!
Shannon Briggs was supremely talented. Beautiful left hook, amazing agility and speed for such a big man. He just had a bit of a weak chin and much like Kermit Cintron, he constantly doubted himself in the ring.
