Kubrat Pulev: We Are in Talks To Fight David Haye - Boxing News
Seems to be the most likely scenario.
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Kubrat Pulev: We Are in Talks To Fight David Haye - Boxing News
Seems to be the most likely scenario.
I was gunna post this. Great to see he's negotiating with top contenders. I heard he was in negotiations with 5 top ranked Heavyweights. Boystov, Povetkin, Pulev, Helenius and Charr. My money is still on Manuel Charr. It was the first name that came to mind for me. I think it'll be easier to sell since Charr is a mouth, he turned up at the Haye-Chisora post fight presser to challenge Haye and he was Vitali's last fight.
I don't think any of them will trouble Haye, it's arbitrary trying to guess who he'll fight as I don't think it matters until he gets to a title shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I don't see how he won't get to the title shot.
i rate pulev right up there, possibly even the best of the contendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
if haye beats pulev it will be probably his best win at HW
That or Valuev but I agree. I was hoping he would take on an American because it might raise his profile in the U.S. a little bit more, but hey, Pulev is probably better than most American contenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i rate pulev right up there, possibly even the best of the contendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
if haye beats pulev it will be probably his best win at HW
Why raise his profile in America though in this current day and age?Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThat or Valuev but I agree. I was hoping he would take on an American because it might raise his profile in the U.S. a little bit more, but hey, Pulev is probably better than most American contenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i rate pulev right up there, possibly even the best of the contendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
if haye beats pulev it will be probably his best win at HW
Not like there is anyone for him to fight there! Who's their best? Thompson? Wilder? No need for him to fight over there.
Haye takes em both without a sweat.
america is where the super money is....Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosWhy raise his profile in America though in this current day and age?Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThat or Valuev but I agree. I was hoping he would take on an American because it might raise his profile in the U.S. a little bit more, but hey, Pulev is probably better than most American contenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i rate pulev right up there, possibly even the best of the contendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
if haye beats pulev it will be probably his best win at HW
Not like there is anyone for him to fight there! Who's their best? Thompson? Wilder? No need for him to fight over there.
Hayes takes em both without a sweat.
Only when an American is in the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqamerica is where the super money is....Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosWhy raise his profile in America though in this current day and age?Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThat or Valuev but I agree. I was hoping he would take on an American because it might raise his profile in the U.S. a little bit more, but hey, Pulev is probably better than most American contenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i rate pulev right up there, possibly even the best of the contendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
if haye beats pulev it will be probably his best win at HW
Not like there is anyone for him to fight there! Who's their best? Thompson? Wilder? No need for him to fight over there.
Hayes takes em both without a sweat.
Isn't that the case?
maybe but if they like you in america and you get onto their ppvs that is where the super money is.... pacquaio was doing alright over there as the star attraction
Is there something wrong with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosOnly when an American is in the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqamerica is where the super money is....Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosWhy raise his profile in America though in this current day and age?Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThat or Valuev but I agree. I was hoping he would take on an American because it might raise his profile in the U.S. a little bit more, but hey, Pulev is probably better than most American contenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i rate pulev right up there, possibly even the best of the contendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
if haye beats pulev it will be probably his best win at HW
Not like there is anyone for him to fight there! Who's their best? Thompson? Wilder? No need for him to fight over there.
Hayes takes em both without a sweat.
Isn't that the case?
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Originally Posted by beenKOedIs there something wrong with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosOnly when an American is in the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqamerica is where the super money is....Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosWhy raise his profile in America though in this current day and age?Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThat or Valuev but I agree. I was hoping he would take on an American because it might raise his profile in the U.S. a little bit more, but hey, Pulev is probably better than most American contenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i rate pulev right up there, possibly even the best of the contendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
if haye beats pulev it will be probably his best win at HW
Not like there is anyone for him to fight there! Who's their best? Thompson? Wilder? No need for him to fight over there.
Hayes takes em both without a sweat.
Isn't that the case?
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I never said there was or even insinuated that there was.
I merely pointed out that there is not much point in Haye worrying about America as his target are not American.
Also if I remember rightly, the klitschkos don't even get shown in the USA, so why would Haye bother?
What of it?
I think Haye fans will be in for a bit of a surprise. I'm not saying David isn't talented, he IS talented, but he (and his fans) assume he's the #3 best (behind Wlad & Vitali) heavyweight by miles.....I don't see it so clear cut. Haye's successes at heavyweight have come vs older worn down fighters: Valuev, Ruiz, Barrett, Harrison....those guys were very old it's still up in the air as to how he will handle a young prime fighter. Yes Chisora was a very good performance, but that guy is extremely hard to read on whether he'll actually put forth an effort or not you've got him shitting the bed vs Fury, then busting up Helenius, and giving Vitali a decent fight, then getting blasted by Haye. That said I'm not 100% sold on Pulev as he's not been in vs the greatest fighters yet either. It will be a very interesting match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
I will say this though, I don't believe David Haye will fight someone he doesn't think he can KO by the middle rounds. Part of that is how Haye and his management percieve the other fighters but part of that is I think they also don't want Haye to be drawn into a battle because they have worries about how he'll hold up.
I think and have always thought Haye vs Adamek would be a good fight
I agree, I do believe he is the 3rd by some distance, but weather I'm right or wrong about how far ahead he is, he is still 3rd in reality, weather by inch or by mile.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI think Haye fans will be in for a bit of a surprise. I'm not saying David isn't talented, he IS talented, but he (and his fans) assume he's the #3 best (behind Wlad & Vitali) heavyweight by miles.....I don't see it so clear cut. Haye's successes at heavyweight have come vs older worn down fighters: Valuev, Ruiz, Barrett, Harrison....those guys were very old it's still up in the air as to how he will handle a young prime fighter. Yes Chisora was a very good performance, but that guy is extremely hard to read on whether he'll actually put forth an effort or not you've got him shitting the bed vs Fury, then busting up Helenius, and giving Vitali a decent fight, then getting blasted by Haye. That said I'm not 100% sold on Pulev as he's not been in vs the greatest fighters yet either. It will be a very interesting match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
I will say this though, I don't believe David Haye will fight someone he doesn't think he can KO by the middle rounds. Part of that is how Haye and his management percieve the other fighters but part of that is I think they also don't want Haye to be drawn into a battle because they have worries about how he'll hold up.
I think and have always thought Haye vs Adamek would be a good fight
But again I'm stubborn and won't be moved, even if I am wrong.
I think its up to Haye to prove it. He certainly COULD be #3 but he could also be challenged for that by others.
Well, Arreola/Stiverne winner vs. Haye would be a good fight, as would Tony Thompson for that matter. Thompson has accomplished more than Pulev has accomplished.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosWhy raise his profile in America though in this current day and age?Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThat or Valuev but I agree. I was hoping he would take on an American because it might raise his profile in the U.S. a little bit more, but hey, Pulev is probably better than most American contenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i rate pulev right up there, possibly even the best of the contendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
if haye beats pulev it will be probably his best win at HW
Not like there is anyone for him to fight there! Who's their best? Thompson? Wilder? No need for him to fight over there.
Haye takes em both without a sweat.
Also, I wasn't suggesting he fight in the U.S.
Never heard of him, is he any good, could he beat Fury?
I like pulev doesn't pack a huge punch but he's certainly not featherfisted, has a good workrate and an active style that makes for fun fights, altho his deffense isn't the greatest but has shown a sturdy chin thus far. Id have it close to a 50-50 fight and be rooting for pulev.
never heard of him either
It seems that these fighters with under 20 fights are being rushed and fed to the wolves rather quickly. Price, Chisora, Helenius, Solis and Hammer have been exposed 1 way or another in recent years. Haye vs Povetkin is the ideal fight for both men and the heavyweight division in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by armin
id have it a 50 / 50 fight as well and ill be routing for Haye