Felix Trindad would CRUSH Hagler...

I saw southpaw Hagler agaisnt Sugar Ray Leonard and Hagler can't fight backing up.
Tito Trinidad ALWAYS backs them up, and Trinidad destroyed southpaws like Sweetpeen Whitaker and Groucho Camacho.

Hagler couldn't block a left hook to save his life, and Tito has the most damnable left hook in Boxing history!

Or Trinidad might simply outbox Melvin just like Sugar Ray did, dance to a decision!

Most likely though, Felix Tito Trinidad crushes Ravenous Melvin Hagler in the 1st rd in a classic mismatch.

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I saw southpaw Hagler agaisnt Sugar Ray Leonard and Hagler can't fight backing up.
Tito Trinidad ALWAYS backs them up, and Trinidad destroyed southpaws like Sweetpeen Whitaker and Groucho Camacho.

Hagler couldn't block a left hook to save his life, and Tito has the most damnable left hook in Boxing history!

Or Trinidad might simply outbox Melvin just like Sugar Ray did, dance to a decision!

Most likely though, Felix Tito Trinidad crushes Ravenous Melvin Hagler in the 1st rd in a classic mismatch.

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I know this is a troll thread but i just wanted to suggest, that you should watch some early Marvin Hagler fights. He was more of a boxer and did fight going backwards, for example check his fight out with the tough Bennie Briscoe.

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I saw southpaw Hagler agaisnt Sugar Ray Leonard and Hagler can't fight backing up.
Tito Trinidad ALWAYS backs them up, and Trinidad destroyed southpaws like Sweetpeen Whitaker and Groucho Camacho.

Hagler couldn't block a left hook to save his life, and Tito has the most damnable left hook in Boxing history!

Or Trinidad might simply outbox Melvin just like Sugar Ray did, dance to a decision!

Most likely though, Felix Tito Trinidad crushes Ravenous Melvin Hagler in the 1st rd in a classic mismatch.

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I just know you cant be serious.

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

I saw southpaw Hagler agaisnt Sugar Ray Leonard and Hagler can't fight backing up.
Tito Trinidad ALWAYS backs them up, and Trinidad destroyed southpaws like Sweetpeen Whitaker and Groucho Camacho.

Hagler couldn't block a left hook to save his life, and Tito has the most damnable left hook in Boxing history!

Or Trinidad might simply outbox Melvin just like Sugar Ray did, dance to a decision!

Most likely though, Felix Tito Trinidad crushes Ravenous Melvin Hagler in the 1st rd in a classic mismatch.

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:vd: Yeah, destroyed.

As dave used to say "cocaine's a hell of a drug"

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As dave used to say "cocaine's a hell of a drug"

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darn, u beat me to it, and here i am thinking that crack was going outta style and then people say crazy stuff like the thread starter

I got news for you guys...


Winners don't use drugs...

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:biteit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4QKiYar9pI

Glad nobodys biting:D Trinidad could've given Duran a hell of a fight, that's the only one of the fab four that I think this is true for. Even despite the size and all I think Leonard or Hearns would probably beat Trinidad just as convincingly as Hagler. Hearns would stop him faster imo.

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I got news for you guys...


Winners don't use drugs...

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Cuz this is not a winning thread

I needed a laugh right about now, it's freezing outside (yes we get winters here in OZ) still that isn't a bad chuckle i just had there.

Now if i was to take the same drugs would i start believing that Sergio Martinez is the best Argentine Middleweight ever and would crush Monzon in 1 round?:rolleyes:

I have to agree with him that Tito always destroyed southpaws , I mean look at the way he dominated Winky Wright.

Oh yea Tito the man who never beat a Hof and best win is a gift going to beat the best middle weight of well time oh yea. I know its a joke and all but Titio got to be most overrated fighter to walk the planet what type of fighter can't deal with people that can use movement.

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I saw southpaw Hagler agaisnt Sugar Ray Leonard and Hagler can't fight backing up.
Tito Trinidad ALWAYS backs them up, and Trinidad destroyed southpaws like Sweetpeen Whitaker and Groucho Camacho.

Hagler couldn't block a left hook to save his life, and Tito has the most damnable left hook in Boxing history!

Or Trinidad might simply outbox Melvin just like Sugar Ray did, dance to a decision!

Most likely though, Felix Tito Trinidad crushes Ravenous Melvin Hagler in the 1st rd in a classic mismatch.

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I have to agree with him that Tito always destroyed southpaws , I mean look at the way he dominated Winky Wright.

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LMAO

....and his fantastic record at MW

As the biggest Felix Trinidad fan here, and yet an extremely knowledgeable and objective boxing fan (ahem, cough, gasp)...... I feel the need to interject with my own personal remarks.

First, it's Marvin..... not Melvin. Our first clue that this was a hastily put together troll thread.

Second, "Marvelous" Marvin was probably one of the greatest, if not THE greatest middleweight champions in the history of boxing. Trinidad started fairly well at middleweight (major props to him for that) by KO'ing William Joppy..... but MW was not Trinidad's natural or best weight, by any means.

So in summary, gentlemen..... I must conclude that while I am a huge Trinidad fan, and consider him one of the greatest champions Puerto Rico and boxing has ever had..... I concur that this is a completely worthless thread, and only serves to bring Trinidad haters to the dinner table.

Good day.

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As the biggest Felix Trinidad fan here, and yet an extremely knowledgeable and objective boxing fan (ahem, cough, gasp)...... I feel the need to interject with my own personal remarks.

First, it's Marvin..... not Melvin. Our first clue that this was a hastily put together troll thread.

Second, "Marvelous" Marvin was probably one of the greatest, if not THE greatest middleweight champions in the history of boxing. Trinidad started fairly well at middleweight (major props to him for that) by KO'ing William Joppy..... but MW was not Trinidad's natural or best weight, by any means.

So in summary, gentlemen..... I must conclude that while I am a huge Trinidad fan, and consider him one of the greatest champions Puerto Rico and boxing has ever had..... I concur that this is a completely worthless thread, and only serves to bring Trinidad haters to the dinner table.

Good day.

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I guess.. one that got outboxed and beat by a drag queen. Don King of course took care of the decision going his way.

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I saw southpaw Hagler agaisnt Sugar Ray Leonard and Hagler can't fight backing up.
Tito Trinidad ALWAYS backs them up, and Trinidad destroyed southpaws like Sweetpeen Whitaker and Groucho Camacho.

Hagler couldn't block a left hook to save his life, and Tito has the most damnable left hook in Boxing history!

Or Trinidad might simply outbox Melvin just like Sugar Ray did, dance to a decision!

Most likely though, Felix Tito Trinidad crushes Ravenous Melvin Hagler in the 1st rd in a classic mismatch.

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Trindad would have two chances against Hagler. Slim and none.....and slim just left town

You are better than this Brad. :)

Tito was a welterweight... that's where he was great. when he fought at middle, he was pretty good, not great. Hagler would kill Tito at middleweight. Tito would hit Hagler four times with that tight jab...Hagler would get pissed off and dismantle Tito in a true beating.

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You are better than this Brad. :)

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No, I'm not!

Anyway, did you laugh at all? At the very least, didja crack a smile?

http://oi47.tinypic.com/2111ilj.jpg


Yeah, Larry always calls De La Hoya "fishnets." He did get robbed against Trinidad.
http://oi30.tinypic.com/jpbv4k.jpg


Roy and Calzaghe dancin':
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this a joke right? Tito is too one dimensional to hang with someone like Hagler. His footwork sucked , Hagler would box his ass off and knock em out even worse than Hops did..

One dimensional fighters don't amass the records Trinidad did and against the opposition he did it against. Furthermore...... ah fuck..... what the hell am I doing arguing with you for?

You love JuanMa Lopez. Now there's one-dimensional for you.
But again.... what good does any of this do??

Carry on.

Hagler would've only had trouble with Monzon who retired just months before a fight could be arranged. It is probably fortunate for Hagler that Monzon did retire as his first attempt at winning the World Middleweight title ended in a draw in early1979.

I found this interview with Hagler talking about past Middleweights...
HAGLER: Well you know those are great champions and because I think I was a throwback from the old days, like a Sugar Ray Robinson and Gene Fullmer and guys I would say like Jake Lamotta, it was something that I had to do to bring back the respect to the middleweight division. At the time coming up, when the heavyweight division was really notable by Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier and all these tough guys in the light heavyweight division, you had Bob Foster. In the middleweights we were lacking something, so I was very honored in the sense that I finally started gaining my recognition as one of the top middleweights in the world. But for me still, I feel as though Carlos Monzon was a great champion. It took ten years and we would have loved to have fought him if we had the opportunity, but unfortunately that never happened. So just continuing and looking at guys like Emile Griffith and all these great middleweights. It’s always been the toughest division out there in the world of boxing I feel.

Asked what approach he would take to Monzon?

HAGLER: Well I believe behind my orthodox style I’d probably be fighting him on the inside to get inside his long reach. Just knowing that this guy had a powerful right hand, I mean Monzon had one of the best right hands in the business also besides Tommy Hearns. I couldn't switch against Monzon, his right hand would be a danger, i had learned a lot and i think i could've given him fits. He was tough too and had an iron chin.

Trinidad would have been in trouble with Hagler in every way. I only give Monzon any chance of beating prime Hagler.

Greb, Langford, Burley, Flowers, Steele and Robinson could all beat Hagler.

Guys like Fitzy, Walker, Ryan, Williams and even Roy would have a legit shot.

Tito would not beat him but he's far from unbeatable.

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Greb, Langford, Burley, Flowers, Steele and Robinson could all beat Hagler.

Guys like Fitzy, Walker, Ryan, Williams and even Roy would have a legit shot.

Tito would not beat him but he's far from unbeatable.

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I think Monzon had the right hand to cause Robinson trouble and Hagler would have a good go. Robinson was the master at welterweight but not middleweight.

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Greb, Langford, Burley, Flowers, Steele and Robinson could all beat Hagler.

Guys like Fitzy, Walker, Ryan, Williams and even Roy would have a legit shot.

Tito would not beat him but he's far from unbeatable.

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I think Monzon had the right hand to cause Robinson trouble and Hagler would have a good go. Robinson was the master at welterweight but not middleweight.

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Was never sold on Monzon. Robinson was a good enough middle to beat Hagler imo

Heretic, Blasphemous, Sacrilegious moment- HAGLER WASN'T ALL THAT!

Hagler could not beat: Ward, Roy Jones, Hopkins, Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Trinidad, Froch or even Kessler in their prime.

He could have beaten: Hearns (in a rematch), Joppy, DLH (knowing DLH is a Jr. Middle, at best), Vargas, Jermaine Taylor and/or Pavlik. But those names aren't going to solidify your stature.

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Heretic, Blasphemous, Sacrilegious moment- HAGLER WASN'T ALL THAT!

Hagler could not beat: Ward, Roy Jones, Hopkins, Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Trinidad, Froch or even Kessler in their prime.

He could have beaten: Hearns (in a rematch), Joppy, DLH (knowing DLH is a Jr. Middle, at best), Vargas, Jermaine Taylor and/or Pavlik. But those names aren't going to solidify your stature.

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I do not want to sound like Bean flicker, but SRR lost the title 5 times, so it was not his best weight.

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Heretic, Blasphemous, Sacrilegious moment- HAGLER WASN'T ALL THAT!

Hagler could not beat: Ward, Roy Jones, Hopkins, Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Trinidad, Froch or even Kessler in their prime.

He could have beaten: Hearns (in a rematch), Joppy, DLH (knowing DLH is a Jr. Middle, at best), Vargas, Jermaine Taylor and/or Pavlik. But those names aren't going to solidify your stature.

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I do not want to sound like Bean flicker, but SRR lost the title 5 times, so it was not his best weight.

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But Hagler couldn't beat him...

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Heretic, Blasphemous, Sacrilegious moment- HAGLER WASN'T ALL THAT!

Hagler could not beat: Ward, Roy Jones, Hopkins, Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Trinidad, Froch or even Kessler in their prime.

He could have beaten: Hearns (in a rematch), Joppy, DLH (knowing DLH is a Jr. Middle, at best), Vargas, Jermaine Taylor and/or Pavlik. But those names aren't going to solidify your stature.

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I do not want to sound like Bean flicker, but SRR lost the title 5 times, so it was not his best weight.

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But Hagler couldn't beat him...

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You think? Turpin did it and so did a few others, so it could be done. :)

Felix isn't a middleweight, and just cuz u fight at middle doesn't make u a middle weight... dummy... Hagler was a solid middleweight. Hagler would rush Tridad and crush him... if Hagler beat Hearns, he'd beat Trinidad... Hagler would crush Hopkins...

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Felix isn't a middleweight, and just cuz u fight at middle doesn't make u a middle weight... dummy... Hagler was a solid middleweight. Hagler would rush Tridad and crush him... if Hagler beat Hearns, he'd beat Trinidad... Hagler would crush Hopkins...

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Hagler beating Hearns has nothing to do with Hagler beating Tito. Polar opposites style wise. Tito's approach was made for Hagler. Tommy's was not but he fought Haglers fight from the opening bell.
Tommy actually had the ability to beat Hagler and instead tried to out slug him. As much as I like Tito, nothing about him gives him a shot. Hopkins/Hagler is a toss up

Look Tito was a huge welterweight and he fit into to mw pretty well. The thing is that if you were a good boxer he lost if you could move well he lost. The only time he didn't is Oscar in which he got a gift a huge gift and thats the best win he ever had. Tito pretty overrated fighter and yea he would get crushed.

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Look Tito was a huge welterweight and he fit into to mw pretty well. The thing is that if you were a good boxer he lost if you could move well he lost. The only time he didn't is Oscar in which he got a gift a huge gift and thats the best win he ever had. Tito pretty overrated fighter and yea he would get crushed.

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Obar Carr was a very good boxer and he got beat, you had to be a bit better than a good boxer. Give Tito some credit.

Trinidad isn't one of my fav fighters but hell don't try and play him down to be some run of the mill guy, he'll go down as one of THE BEST welterweight champions in history, he was one of if not the longest running Welterweight champions in the history of the sport (from 1993 to 1999, including 16 title defenses) and you don't have wins over the following by being just an ok fighter

Camacho
Campas
Carr
Whitaker
Reid
Vargas
Joppy
Mayorga

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Felix isn't a middleweight, and just cuz u fight at middle doesn't make u a middle weight... dummy... Hagler was a solid middleweight. Hagler would rush Tridad and crush him... if Hagler beat Hearns, he'd beat Trinidad... Hagler would crush Hopkins...

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Hagler beating Hearns has nothing to do with Hagler beating Tito. Polar opposites style wise. Tito's approach was made for Hagler. Tommy's was not but he fought Haglers fight from the opening bell.
Tommy actually had the ability to beat Hagler and instead tried to out slug him. As much as I like Tito, nothing about him gives him a shot. Hopkins/Hagler is a toss up

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*Hearns was much taller, much more dangerous and harder to get to... Tito had no head movement and stood in front of u... there is no time in Tio's career when he was better than Hagler. Tito was a great welterweight, not a great middleweight... PERIOD.
Tito fought a solid middleweight IN Hopkins..and basically got manhandled... even as great as many think Hopkins is, there's no scenario where Hopkins beats Hagler, at his best... Hagler was a beast. He couldn't be hurt by a mortal man and systemtically tore opponents into pieces.. if there was a man who was really mean..it was Hagler. he was the modern day clubber Lang...did it all on his own and by his own rules. l

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Trinidad isn't one of my fav fighters but hell don't try and play him down to be some run of the mill guy, he'll go down as one of THE BEST welterweight champions in history, he was one of if not the longest running Welterweight champions in the history of the sport (from 1993 to 1999, including 16 title defenses) and you don't have wins over the following by being just an ok fighter

Camacho
Campas
Carr
Whitaker
Reid
Vargas
Joppy
Mayorga

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He still gets smashed by Hagler

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Look Tito was a huge welterweight and he fit into to mw pretty well. The thing is that if you were a good boxer he lost if you could move well he lost. The only time he didn't is Oscar in which he got a gift a huge gift and thats the best win he ever had. Tito pretty overrated fighter and yea he would get crushed.

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There's knowledgeable posters..... and then there's you.

I'm the biggest Trinidad on this forum, and went on record early saying there was no chance Trinidad beats Hagler. Obviously a troll thread. But calling Trinidad overrated is just as ignorant.... which in your forum history is nothing surprising.

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Trinidad isn't one of my fav fighters but hell don't try and play him down to be some run of the mill guy, he'll go down as one of THE BEST welterweight champions in history, he was one of if not the longest running Welterweight champions in the history of the sport (from 1993 to 1999, including 16 title defenses) and you don't have wins over the following by being just an ok fighter

Camacho
Campas
Carr
Whitaker
Reid
Vargas
Joppy
Mayorga

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He still gets smashed by Hagler

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never said he wouldn't, but so would the vast majority of the guys at MW right now, including Martinez, Chavez, and Golovkin