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I see alot of you guys saying he should fight ward, or mayweather or martinez, but truth be told, i dont think he paid his dues. he has zero tests in his career. I would like to see him fight Chavez, froch, or canelo before he steps up to fight the best. Im not disagreeing that he is a great fighter, but i think the hype is a bit to large.
Thank you to me the GGG hype seems an awful lot like the beginning of the Pactard movement which was a despicable time for true fans. If someone is trying to convince you that Ishida would beat Quillin's resume and is a better win than N'Dam than boxing is in trouble.
What thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
i'm sure GGG is gutted you don't feel he deserves any super fights , please share with us , when you feel it is ok for him to have such a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
We await with anticipation as im sure GGG does.
The is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
And we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
People are getting desperate and the hate for mayweather intensifies the closer he gets to hanging up his gloves so the hype train must keep going to find someone to dethrone him.
First hype job is canelo and the next one was mattyhse but i think GGG has taken his place.
Regardless of the hype, GGG is an undefeated fighter with power and puts bums on seats and proves to be a tough sog.
Lets see how he does against a macklin/martinez first.
There was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
On the flipside, broner did jump up two weight classes and never looked in any trouble at any point of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
When was the last time paulie got knocked out?
It doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
I think GGG has an effortless style , he punches so hard , he is also not an asshole like Broner , so who wouldn't want him to fight in a superfight ? Unless you are a total retard.
The greatest thing about him is that he is not American. He doesn't need any hype. Hasn't trashed talked or slagged anyone off. Has not avoided anyone, acted like a true gent post fight thanking his opponents. He has earned the right as a middleweight to challenge Martinez and to suggest otherwise just comes across as sour grapes.
I must repeat myself for those who ARE THICK, 345-5 as a Amateur that is a hell of a record,
plenty of KO's in the Amateurs look on You-Tube.
He has little to prove as he is undefeated as a pro, give some credit outstanding Amateur and Pro
Champion, but for some its not enough like being in paradise just not perfect.!;)
Yeah Kellerman said Crawford is the best Lightweight in the world, the idea of that is laughable, Bob says Manny is the best he ever saw and he has Ali, promoters and networks hold no value in boxing talk, fans are suppose to know better.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
Canelo hasn't done anything to deserve Floyd but he is a draw or so we assume, GGG got 350,000 vs Macklin and is not a draw.
Lol I was just expressing my opinion, I just would like to see him beat some opponents that carry weight, maybe Martinez fight is not a stretch, it seem perfectly feasible as Martinez is overhyped as well, cuz his resume kinda sucks, not their fault I know, the division, but before we offer upFloyd or ward, lets see something impressive, all im saying is , hes a great fighter, hes a nice guy im sure:rolleyes:, but I need to see him against some solid guys before we crown him.
Yeah calling Rosado a good boy was really respectful, he hasn't earned Martinez any more than Quillin has it's just a huge bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Deserved or not, he's going to get them and it'll be fun to watch. He's not some crude slugger at all but thus far his path or rather push has been to emphasis his strengths against very much measuring sticks rather than contenders. He looks to have the goods but you won't know that until he goes into a fight were we genuinely ponder a win rather than what round he'll knock a guy out. That's true for far to many today. The Tyson talk is just goofy and desperate chew toys for -some- fans to slobber on. I never get the push to use Ama. credentials to enforce professional merit. When we are still pushing them it may very well tell you all you need to know about how far a guy actually has yet to...hopes to go and where's he's at. I think anyway.
Rigo didn't get any credit for his amateur career when he wanted Donaire the double standards get tiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
You've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
But in fairness it was mostly all you ever heard about on his way up by all the commentators.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeRigo didn't get any credit for his amateur career when he wanted Donaire the double standards get tiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
According the Lampley and Kellerman he is the adopted son ( the one who can fight) of Chavez senior ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYou've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
I think GGG would sale a lot more if he was Mexican more but than he would be with Top Rank or Golden Boy and he would not be as hyped because people never give mainstream fighters this credit, if Canelo's 3rd best win was Ishida it be a little embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYou've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
I no what you mean, but Golovkin can fight and so can Rigo both outstanding Amateur Champions,Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBut in fairness it was mostly all you ever heard about on his way up by all the commentators.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeRigo didn't get any credit for his amateur career when he wanted Donaire the double standards get tiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
I've never bother with what commentators have to say, having watched both fighters in the Amateur
and pro ranks. I come to my own conclusions, on the fighters I watch having watched so MUCH boxing
through the years, sometimes its hard to be impressed but Golovkin does.!:)
Let GGG step up to fight froch or kessler then we can say how good he is.
If not, martinez, macklin or chavez is the next step not 154 and picking on the little guys like canelo has done.
Broner got paid 1.5MM to fight Paulie Malignaggi! His team was hailing him as the next Floyd Mayweather, which is completely laughable after he barely got by Paulie. I mean come on. When we're talk about overrated, there is only one picture in the dictionary, and that is Adrian Broner.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeYeah Kellerman said Crawford is the best Lightweight in the world, the idea of that is laughable, Bob says Manny is the best he ever saw and he has Ali, promoters and networks hold no value in boxing talk, fans are suppose to know better.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
Canelo hasn't done anything to deserve Floyd but he is a draw or so we assume, GGG got 350,000 vs Macklin and is not a draw.
Wouldn't you say that Froch and Kessler are picking on GGG then if he loses? GGG should clean out the division as best he can.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Wiliams, Pavlik, Chavez. Resume sucks, get a fucking grip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
I really don't know who is hyping him so much or being unrealistic about his prospects, he simply looks like a terrific fighter, and he's not fighting in a deep division. It's quite simple. Who is actually saying he shouldn't fight Quillin or Murray, Barker etc:confused:, of course those would be good to see. There is just every chance those guys wont want to fight him or the fights wont happen for whatever reason. The most ridiculous posts by far regarding GGG have been coming from this Onetime fellow who seems to have a pretty clear agenda.
I think GGG would sale a lot more if he was Mexican more but than he would be with Top Rank or Golden Boy and he would not be as hyped because people never give mainstream fighters this credit, if Canelo's 3rd best win was Ishida it be a little embarrassing.[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
My god you are clueless about boxing nowadays. Apart from Trout Canelo has beaten noone and that fight was close. an old Baldomir and an average Cotto? there is noone. Apart from DPDL there are no big wins on Broners resume and alot of people have him losing that.
Give GGG some respect, at least he has never even looked like losing.
PS this thread started is a joke. Who wouldnt want to see GGG fight the best out there? And if you think Alvarez would get in a ring with GGG you are sadly mistaken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSPgaSKCr8U
this is the guy were asking to fight ward and mayweather? to be clear right? if he can get through chavez, or martinez then we can talk, until then......its a pointless debate
I'm not going to try to explain why GGG is a real fighter because no one here knows anything about techniques or methods so its a waste of time!!!
Try to get a grip on the the "expression" he's a good boy!
A "good boy" is a fighter who comes to fight and gives a solid effort! Its an old "inside boxing " expression and GGG knows some history within the sport and uses boxing expressions!
Thats the real meaning its NOT lil boy or a dirogitary comment its a respectfull one!!!
GGG's management has sent out contracts to all the middleweight contenders, no one seems to be willing to negotiate. I wonder why? Ray.
Jesus, we have the reincarnation of TrainerMonkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray corso
If he fights Martinez next year and KOs him in the 1st or second round what will u say. I know the majority, including me, will say Martinez was shot and could see that from his previous fight. Martinez is a lose lose fight for GGG for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
Promoter speak vs real fans, I don't see many educated fans hyping BronerQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratBroner got paid 1.5MM to fight Paulie Malignaggi! His team was hailing him as the next Floyd Mayweather, which is completely laughable after he barely got by Paulie. I mean come on. When we're talk about overrated, there is only one picture in the dictionary, and that is Adrian Broner.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeYeah Kellerman said Crawford is the best Lightweight in the world, the idea of that is laughable, Bob says Manny is the best he ever saw and he has Ali, promoters and networks hold no value in boxing talk, fans are suppose to know better.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
Canelo hasn't done anything to deserve Floyd but he is a draw or so we assume, GGG got 350,000 vs Macklin and is not a draw.
God you are a Moron clearly GGG has talent, we are talking about him being handed things, Martinez was stripped of 3 legit world titles in 3 months, Martinez doesn't owe GGG anything if he can't bring money.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray corso
I would give him his just due, its hard to fight injured, i don't think martinez got old overnight, i think he was dealing with injuries and thats why it was a lot closer than it was. And honestly i favor golovkin over Martinez, but i don't think it will be what people think it will be. All im saying is lets see it before we jump to conclusions. And id like him to fight Chavez more so honestly, because Chavez is a real middleweight, with middleweight power and a good chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeIf he fights Martinez next year and KOs him in the 1st or second round what will u say. I know the majority, including me, will say Martinez was shot and could see that from his previous fight. Martinez is a lose lose fight for GGG for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
My god you are clueless about boxing nowadays. Apart from Trout Canelo has beaten noone and that fight was close. an old Baldomir and an average Cotto? there is noone. Apart from DPDL there are no big wins on Broners resume and alot of people have him losing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeI think GGG would sale a lot more if he was Mexican more but than he would be with Top Rank or Golden Boy and he would not be as hyped because people never give mainstream fighters this credit, if Canelo's 3rd best win was Ishida it be a little embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
Give GGG some respect, at least he has never even looked like losing.
PS this thread started is a joke. Who wouldnt want to see GGG fight the best out there? And if you think Alvarez would get in a ring with GGG you are sadly mistaken.[/QUOTE]
Honestly if GGG was an American fighter you wouldn't like him your bias oozes through like a Pactard. I'd take a shot Mosley, Vazquez really is a p4p guy and Canelo beat him, Lopez was basically the same as the Rosado fight, if you are claiming that GGG's resume blows away Canelo's that's a lie, GGG claim Ishida and Proksa as great wins, you dont know shit about boxing other than GGG isn't American so you nuthugg him, your comments worshipping Ishida as a great win was some of the most despicable comment I have read, Quillin should face Ishida or will you cry GGG ruined him, admit it you are in love with GGG because of the hipster hype.
Honestly if GGG was an American fighter you wouldn't like him your bias oozes through like a Pactard. I'd take a shot Mosley, Vazquez really is a p4p guy and Canelo beat him, Lopez was basically the same as the Rosado fight, if you are claiming that GGG's resume blows away Canelo's that's a lie, GGG claim Ishida and Proksa as great wins, you dont know shit about boxing other than GGG isn't American so you nuthugg him, your comments worshipping Ishida as a great win was some of the most despicable comment I have read, Quillin should face Ishida or will you cry GGG ruined him, admit it you are in love with GGG because of the hipster hype.[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeMy god you are clueless about boxing nowadays. Apart from Trout Canelo has beaten noone and that fight was close. an old Baldomir and an average Cotto? there is noone. Apart from DPDL there are no big wins on Broners resume and alot of people have him losing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeI think GGG would sale a lot more if he was Mexican more but than he would be with Top Rank or Golden Boy and he would not be as hyped because people never give mainstream fighters this credit, if Canelo's 3rd best win was Ishida it be a little embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
Give GGG some respect, at least he has never even looked like losing.
PS this thread started is a joke. Who wouldnt want to see GGG fight the best out there? And if you think Alvarez would get in a ring with GGG you are sadly mistaken.
What on earth is your issue;D. Nobody cares that Golovkin isn't American, or that he IS from Kazakhstan of all places, and nobody is putting forth any kind of "hype" that is nearly as fucking emotional as your little campaign since the guy just won a fight. It's getting bizarre.
Yeh I was just pointing out above that Rigo was very much pushed on Ama. pedigree and style etc. It came up and said he was in a mold even when he was boxing the doors off Donaire. It's a huge contrast even though both had success... when Golovkin comes up you don't think amatuer record etc. Up until now they are two different worlds, though with the new rules and pro system next Olympics its going to be very very interesting!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoI no what you mean, but Golovkin can fight and so can Rigo both outstanding Amateur Champions,Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBut in fairness it was mostly all you ever heard about on his way up by all the commentators.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeRigo didn't get any credit for his amateur career when he wanted Donaire the double standards get tiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
I've never bother with what commentators have to say, having watched both fighters in the Amateur
and pro ranks. I come to my own conclusions, on the fighters I watch having watched so MUCH boxing
through the years, sometimes its hard to be impressed but Golovkin does.!:)
Mr. Fenster, I've been involved with the sport a very long time and when I here discussion discrediting an accomplished fighter who has lost 5 bouts out of close to 500 theres is NO reason to get into it with fans who have limitations evaluating talents!
As to your comments about me, my signature is my name if your one of those name calling little fellows I'll do my best to avoid you!! I like children but disrespectful ones need to be seen and not heard!
Boxing has always engaged fighters from all over the world and once the topic turns to cultures instead of skills its to late to discuss, it gets to personal then!!!
GG can fight and box and if he stays ast 160 as the Middleweight Champion and accepts all challengers at HIS weight he'll reign a long time!! Its very refreshing to see a young man with credentials and power. Next to the Heavyweight title the Middleweight title was always the most prestigious but today the fans want fighters to jump in and out of weight classes like their playing checkers! GGG is the best 160 pounder today and if Sergio can get healthy enough I'm sure GGG will stop him and if Junior can get to 160 he'll be KO'd. Eventually he'll move to 168 because no one at 160 will fight him.
To bad he won't stay at Middle and venture up to 164 to fight Froch and those guys in 10 round main events! He stays Middleweight Champ and fights out of his weight class. All champs used to do that and it was successfull for all! Once a year you defend against the number one then you fight within your own promotions!! (what Mayweather does hahahaha)
So thats that, good luck and have a nice nite!!! Ray Corso