Chris Weidmen the new Middleweight champion
Wow.
That was crazy!
You cannot play games like that at this level. He's got away with it too long and it finally caught up with him.
Still can't believe it hahaha!
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Unbelievably stupid, he took playing around to a new level. No idea what that post fight interview was about either:confused: Why on earth wouldn't he want a rematch, Weidmen obviously wasn't on his level.
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Everyone's gonna say "WTF WAS HE DOING DROPPING HIS HAND/PLAYING GAMES/ECT"... but he's done that to pretty much every one of his opponents in the UFC and people have cheered him for it. He played with fire one too many times and got burned.
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Everyone's gonna say "WTF WAS HE DOING DROPPING HIS HAND/PLAYING GAMES/ECT"... but he's done that to pretty much every one of his opponents in the UFC and people have cheered him for it. He played with fire one too many times and got burned.
Agree totally, but it did seem especially over the top tonight, at least given that he hadn't mounted much of his own attack. He clearly didn't respect Weidmens stand up whatsoever, but it makes me wonder what kind of sparring he is used to:confused: You really can't do that against any kind of capable boxer/striker.
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Anderson defeated himself, he says he doesn't want a rematch but I'm thinking Dana isn't going to have any of that BS. A strange situation, there is no telling what the outcome will be.
Good luck to Weidman because everyone that Anderson defeated is going to want a run at him after that strange, confusing and stupid fight--it left the smell of Professional Wrestling in the air.
Dana will be cursing for a week, at least.
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Everyone's gonna say "WTF WAS HE DOING DROPPING HIS HAND/PLAYING GAMES/ECT"... but he's done that to pretty much every one of his opponents in the UFC and people have cheered him for it. He played with fire one too many times and got burned.
Agree totally, but it did seem especially over the top tonight, at least given that he hadn't mounted much of his own attack. He clearly didn't respect Weidmens stand up whatsoever, but it makes me wonder what kind of sparring he is used to:confused: You really can't do that against any kind of capable boxer/striker.
Sonnen would have finished Silva just like that in there first fight if Sonnen had the finishing capabilities of Wiedman.
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By the sound of it, did he Nate Campbell his ass???
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By the sound of it, did he Nate Campbell his ass???
Almost to a tee, he kept doing his best matrix impression rather than offer his chin exactly, but small difference. Frustrating thing was there was so much of the same crap before the finish came, where Silva should have been teeing off himself, Weidmen was almost following suit in spots.
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By the sound of it, did he Nate Campbell his ass???
Almost to a tee, he kept doing his best matrix impression rather than offer his chin exactly, but small difference. Frustrating thing was there was so much of the same crap before the finish came, where Silva should have been teeing off himself, Weidmen was almost following suit in spots.
This is exactly why Silva hasnt fought Bisping yet. Bisping is technical and has good enough movement to get in and out with getting hit with a counter. Dana White would never make Silva vs Bisping.
Silva has never went up against a striker has technical as Bisping.
I'll go ahead and put Wiedman on Franklins level as far as striking. But Weidmans quicker and stronger with better finishing capabilities. And Silva is older know than he was against Franklin.
Besides Franklin and Weidman, the next best technical striker Silva has fought would be Sonnen.
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Got dropped and was on 'queer street' from a jab :-\
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By the sound of it, did he Nate Campbell his ass???
Almost to a tee, he kept doing his best matrix impression rather than offer his chin exactly, but small difference. Frustrating thing was there was so much of the same crap before the finish came, where Silva should have been teeing off himself, Weidmen was almost following suit in spots.
This is exactly why Silva hasnt fought Bisping yet. Bisping is technical and has good enough movement to get in and out with getting hit with a counter. Dana White would never make Silva vs Bisping.
Silva has never went up against a striker has technical as Bisping.
I'll go ahead and put Wiedman on Franklins level as far as striking. But Weidmans quicker and stronger with better finishing capabilities. And Silva is older know than he was against Franklin.
Besides Franklin and Weidman, the next best technical striker Silva has fought would be Sonnen.
Sorry mate, but as much as i like bispring he would not beat silva.
Dan henderson destroyed bispring and i would love to see dan and chris get it on.
The good thing for bispring is that he might get a title shot against chris and that would be a great chance for him.
Anderson silva, well hes 40 years old and just seemed as though he wasnt bothered about fighting anymore!
He has a ten fight contract and dana must be fuming.
Anderson has nothing to prove and he lost because he was clowning around and just doesnt want it anymore. I saw a trailor of his new film the other day which looks crap but once you start doing those movie type things your game slips.
Bisping was tagging Henderson before he got caught. Just like Silva didnt think Weidman could catch him, Bisping didnt think Henderson could catch him.
Bisping struggles with pressure fighters who have alot of power like Wandy and Belfort. But with Henderson he just got to cocky.
Silva doesnt have one shot ko power (outside of his fight with Belfort). He lands combos off of counters I dont see him being able to do that against Bisping.
However Bisping does have a suspect chin, if anything would do him in against Silva it would be that. But I think in a fight against Silva he would bo more on point than hes ever been so it wouldnt matter.
If Bisping had a good chin he would beat Silva 10 out of 10 times.
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This is exactly why Silva hasnt fought Bisping yet. Bisping is technical and has good enough movement to get in and out with getting hit with a counter. Dana White would never make Silva vs Bisping.
Silva has never went up against a striker has technical as Bisping.
I'll go ahead and put Wiedman on Franklins level as far as striking. But Weidmans quicker and stronger with better finishing capabilities. And Silva is older know than he was against Franklin.
Besides Franklin and Weidman, the next best technical striker Silva has fought would be Sonnen.
LOL!
Bisping? The guy who got outstruck by a wrestler in Matt Hamill?
No, the reason Bisping has never gotten a shot at Anderson is because he ALWAYS loses when he's almost in line for title contention.
Hendo knocked him out brutally, then he lost to a washed up Wanderlei.
Then he started rallying some wins together, but lost his shot when he dropped the decision to Chael.
Then he got TKO'd by Belfort and went down the ladder again.
Bisping has no chance against Silva. Weidman can punch. Bisping doesn't have big power in his hands.
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This is exactly why Silva hasnt fought Bisping yet. Bisping is technical and has good enough movement to get in and out with getting hit with a counter. Dana White would never make Silva vs Bisping.
Silva has never went up against a striker has technical as Bisping.
I'll go ahead and put Wiedman on Franklins level as far as striking. But Weidmans quicker and stronger with better finishing capabilities. And Silva is older know than he was against Franklin.
Besides Franklin and Weidman, the next best technical striker Silva has fought would be Sonnen.
LOL!
Bisping? The guy who got outstruck by a wrestler in Matt Hamill?
No, the reason Bisping has never gotten a shot at Anderson is because he ALWAYS loses when he's almost in line for title contention.
Hendo knocked him out brutally, then he lost to a washed up Wanderlei.
Then he started rallying some wins together, but lost his shot when he dropped the decision to Chael.
Then he got TKO'd by Belfort and went down the ladder again.
Bisping has no chance against Silva. Weidman can punch. Bisping doesn't have big power in his hands.
I was going to school this fool but you beat me to it. Silva ducking Bisping? thats like a fat kid ducking dinner.
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This is exactly why Silva hasnt fought Bisping yet. Bisping is technical and has good enough movement to get in and out with getting hit with a counter. Dana White would never make Silva vs Bisping.
Silva has never went up against a striker has technical as Bisping.
I'll go ahead and put Wiedman on Franklins level as far as striking. But Weidmans quicker and stronger with better finishing capabilities. And Silva is older know than he was against Franklin.
Besides Franklin and Weidman, the next best technical striker Silva has fought would be Sonnen.
LOL!
Bisping? The guy who got outstruck by a wrestler in Matt Hamill?
No, the reason Bisping has never gotten a shot at Anderson is because he ALWAYS loses when he's almost in line for title contention.
Hendo knocked him out brutally, then he lost to a washed up Wanderlei.
Then he started rallying some wins together, but lost his shot when he dropped the decision to Chael.
Then he got TKO'd by Belfort and went down the ladder again.
Bisping has no chance against Silva. Weidman can punch. Bisping doesn't have big power in his hands.
Like I said, he has no chin and struggles against people with one shot KO power.
He got ripped of in the Chael fight.
He won a close fight against Hammil, who is much bigger than him. If your fighting a dude who is much bigger than you and you have to worry about there wrestling it makes you tentative with your striking. It totally changes the striking game up. It can make a wrestler look like Ali and the other guy look like Wepner.
Bisping would destroy Hammil in a kickboxing match.
If there is anyone at 185 can actually strike with Silva (when Silva isnt doing stupid shit) its Bisping.
Silva wins by KO in a rematch against Weidman.
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IMO from the sound of the post fight interview, silva wanted to get rid of that belt. He wasn't mad at all. Didn't want a rematch. Sounds like he is just tired of fighting. The flame went out and he is happy with it. We all kno silva was gonna give dude the bizness, but he didn't care to. Oh we'll. at least we still have bones
I think he sounded embarrassed because he has never lost in front of that many people. And not only did he lose he got KTFO. And not only did he get KTFO, he got KTFO in his home country. And not only all this, his own home country booed him after he lost.
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Unbelievably stupid, he took playing around to a new level. No idea what that post fight interview was about either<img src="images/smilies/confused.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Confused" smilieid="10" class="inlineimg" /> Why on earth wouldn't he want a rematch, Weidmen obviously wasn't on his level.
Wasn't on his level but managed to KO him? Your a bellend.
Its you're:rolleyes:, and yes the guy wasn't on his level. The only reason Silva would do that is because he knew it, but he obviously payed the ultimate price last night. Almost anyone could get a knockout if a guy gives them that little respect, it doesn't mean he's the better fighter.
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You can say the clowining and shit cost him, but he didn't do that in the first and got taken down and gnpd. I think silva didn't wana be taken down so he did what he always does which is be cocky and try and gaud the guy into a mistake, except this time he was the one to make a mistake.
Maybe so. After the first take down Silva did stuff a couple tho. Looked like he wasnt to afraid to be taken down.
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You can say the clowining and shit cost him, but he didn't do that in the first and got taken down and gnpd. I think silva didn't wana be taken down so he did what he always does which is be cocky and try and gaud the guy into a mistake, except this time he was the one to make a mistake.
Maybe so. After the first take down Silva did stuff a couple tho. Looked like he wasnt to afraid to be taken down.
I don't know I only remember chris attempting one more after but either way its not like silva fought differently than he usually does, people say silva should kept his hands up and he wins, when did silva ever fight that way?
I think he had many opprotunities to counter. He made Weidman miss many times in which Weidman was left wide open.
Sure having his hands up would have helped but your right when has Silva done that.
I think if Silva would have just go to business he would have KO'd Weidman.
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Anderson Silva is 38 years old and been fighting professionally since 1997.
16 years of pro fighting, it's amazing that he held onto his reflexes and speed for as long as he has, but nobody defeats Father Time.
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You can say the clowining and shit cost him, but he didn't do that in the first and got taken down and gnpd. I think silva didn't wana be taken down so he did what he always does which is be cocky and try and gaud the guy into a mistake, except this time he was the one to make a mistake.
Maybe so. After the first take down Silva did stuff a couple tho. Looked like he wasnt to afraid to be taken down.
I don't know I only remember chris attempting one more after but either way its not like silva fought differently than he usually does, people say silva should kept his hands up and he wins, when did silva ever fight that way?
I think he had many opprotunities to counter. He made Weidman miss many times in which Weidman was left wide open.
Sure having his hands up would have helped but your right when has Silva done that.
I think if Silva would have just go to business he would have KO'd Weidman.
Would've could've but he didn't seem to want to. In the past silva counters this missed punches. And if I remember correctly silva doesn't really play around until he has complete control. He didn't even land nothing significant before he started clowning
I don't understand why anyone is arguing, the fight was Silva's to lose, which he did. Silva has been taken down plenty so I don't think he was upset about the first round. Why he was clowning around with his hands down in front of a fighter few have seen a lot of is a mystery to me, Silva had plenty or warnings about Weidman and decided to ignore them.
Maybe he was trying to impress RJJ. Whatever the reason, congrats to Weidman because he did KO Silva for a great win. I'm really interested to see how everything plays out.
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You can say the clowining and shit cost him, but he didn't do that in the first and got taken down and gnpd. I think silva didn't wana be taken down so he did what he always does which is be cocky and try and gaud the guy into a mistake, except this time he was the one to make a mistake.
Maybe so. After the first take down Silva did stuff a couple tho. Looked like he wasnt to afraid to be taken down.
I don't know I only remember chris attempting one more after but either way its not like silva fought differently than he usually does, people say silva should kept his hands up and he wins, when did silva ever fight that way?
I think he had many opprotunities to counter. He made Weidman miss many times in which Weidman was left wide open.
Sure having his hands up would have helped but your right when has Silva done that.
I think if Silva would have just go to business he would have KO'd Weidman.
Would've could've but he didn't seem to want to. In the past silva counters this missed punches. And if I remember correctly silva doesn't really play around until he has complete control. He didn't even land nothing significant before he started clowning
I don't understand why anyone is arguing, the fight was Silva's to lose, which he did. Silva has been taken down plenty so I don't think he was upset about the first round. Why he was clowning around with his hands down in front of a fighter few have seen a lot of is a mystery to me, Silva had plenty or warnings about Weidman and decided to ignore them.
Maybe he was trying to impress RJJ. Whatever the reason, congrats to Weidman because he did KO Silva for a great win. I'm really interested to see how everything plays out.
I dont think anyone is arguing. We all pretty much agree on everything. Just discussing.
I would bet a serious amount of money on an immediate rematch.