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Duran advises Canelo to maul Mayweather
Legendary boxer Roberto "Hands of Stone" Duran has advised WBC/WBA 154-pound champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (42-0-1, 30KOs) to maul Floyd Mayweather Jr. (44-0, 26KOs) on September 14th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Duran told Nacion the proper stategy that he would use if he was going up against Mayweather, stating that most fighters make a huge error by always trying to land shots on Canelo's head.
"If I was going up against a boxer like that, I would bust him up. I would bust him all over the place...the arms, the ribs. The first thing you have to do is forget about the head. The head is smaller than the body. You have to break a man down, and in order to do so you're going to hit him in the kidneys and he'll slowly begin to stop [his movement] and after four rounds he will no longer be able to walk," Duran said.
Yep, he's exactly right... I always thought this was the only way to fight Floyd.
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FinitoElDinamita
Legendary boxer Roberto "Hands of Stone" Duran has advised WBC/WBA 154-pound champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (42-0-1, 30KOs) to maul Floyd Mayweather Jr. (44-0, 26KOs) on September 14th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Duran told Nacion the proper stategy that he would use if he was going up against Mayweather, stating that most fighters make a huge error by always trying to land shots on Canelo's head.
"If I was going up against a boxer like that, I would bust him up. I would bust him all over the place...the arms, the ribs. The first thing you have to do is forget about the head. The head is smaller than the body. You have to break a man down, and in order to do so you're going to hit him in the kidneys and he'll slowly begin to stop [his movement] and after four rounds he will no longer be able to walk," Duran said.
Yep, he's exactly right... I always thought this was the only way to fight Floyd.
indeed hes correct, except everytime anyone throws a left hook to the body at floyd, they get caught with a straight right down the pipe or an uppercut, it sounds like a great plan though, if canelo can eat a couple rights, he can make the fight really interesting, but floyd even without head movement fights great in the pocket and in the center of the ring. i personally, am super excited and just a tad worried as a floyd fan. Floyd hasnt looked great at 154, dunno what 152 will look like, and canelo is a very durable guy or so it seems, with good skill, power, and speed. Still all that though, i say floyd wins unless he hurts his hand bad early, he cant afford to get hurt against this guy. He needs both hands to take him into deep waters.
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That is what you should do, but can you do it is a whole different thing.
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Sound advise and I agree with his assessment. And Canelo better use his 22 year old reflexes and jab to beat Mayweather on the outside.
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What, is this a big secret? You think that never crossed anyone else's mind? You think guys like Ricky Hatton didn't have that in mind?
It's easier said than done with great counter punchers. Floyd's not a knockout puncher, but he has enough pop to keep guys honest.
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Beanflicker
What, is this a big secret? You think that never crossed anyone else's mind? You think guys like Ricky Hatton didn't have that in mind?
It's easier said than done with great counter punchers. Floyd's not a knockout puncher, but he has enough pop to keep guys honest.
Ricky hatton the wrestler? lol Im sure he had all the plans in the world but he wasn't skilled enough to execute ..
Canelo is light years ahead of Hatton and will do a better job..
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FinitoElDinamita
Canelo is light years ahead of Hatton and will do a better job..
You think?
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Beanflicker
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FinitoElDinamita
Canelo is light years ahead of Hatton and will do a better job..
You think?
Saul is a legitimate light middle and his size alone gives him a better advantage than it did Hatton.
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I'm not denying his size advantage, I'm just puzzled as to why suddenly Saul is a better fighter than Ricky Hatton?
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FinitoElDinamita
Ricky hatton the wrestler? lol Im sure he had all the plans in the world but he wasn't skilled enough to execute ..
Hatton was fighting 2 guys in there, joe cortez played a HUGE part in the way that fight went...
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Beanflicker
I'm not denying his size advantage, I'm just puzzled as to why suddenly Saul is a better fighter than Ricky Hatton?
Better fighter has yet to be established, Saul has a long way to go but he has achieved a lot and the potential to do better than Ricky.
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Beanflicker
I'm not denying his size advantage, I'm just puzzled as to why suddenly Saul is a better fighter than Ricky Hatton?
Alvarez is a better fighter than Hatton. More tools, more skills.
I made a thread about Alvarez over 3 years ago because I know The Goods when I see it...
Hatton was a good fighter and was in fact The Man at 140, but there's a clear difference in class here between Alvarez and Hatton, just as there was a difference when Hatton fought both Pacquiao and Mayweather and was out-classed by both. joe cortez helped Mayweather, but even without his help, I can't see Hatton winning that one.
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I always figured Duran would have beaten Floyd senseless for this exact reason. Now can Canelo put this plan into action? I don't think so...I think the best opponent PBF has fought recently was Miguel Cotto and had he fought a fresher Cotto I think Floyd would have been in big trouble. Of course we can all thank Margacheato for keeping that fight from coming to fruition
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bradlee180
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FinitoElDinamita
Ricky hatton the wrestler? lol Im sure he had all the plans in the world but he wasn't skilled enough to execute ..
Hatton was fighting 2 guys in there, joe cortez played a
HUGE part in the way that fight went...
This is very true
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bradlee180
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Beanflicker
I'm not denying his size advantage, I'm just puzzled as to why suddenly Saul is a better fighter than Ricky Hatton?
Alvarez is a better fighter than Hatton. More tools, more skills.
I made a thread about Alvarez over 3 years ago because I know
The Goods when I see it...
Hatton was a good fighter and was in fact
The Man at 140, but there's a clear difference in class here between Alvarez and Hatton, just as there was a difference when Hatton fought both Pacquiao and Mayweather and was out-classed by both. joe cortez helped Mayweather, but even without his help, I can't see Hatton winning that one.
I really cant see Hatton winning either but there were way to many times Cortez broke up the action for no reason when Hatton was putting on some pressure and Floyd was getting pounded on and Hatton had him on the ropes. No clinch or anything.
That could have made a huge difference in the fight. It definately saved Floyd from taking quite a few shots.
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I totally agree with Duran. Now, the question is; who's able to do that without being pot shotted by floyd? I am not sure that Alvarez has the tools for it.
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Beanflicker
I'm not denying his size advantage, I'm just puzzled as to why suddenly Saul is a better fighter than Ricky Hatton?
His win over a prime Trout beats Hatton's best win
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Canelo is really nothing like Hatton. One guy starts at a hundred miles an hour the other goes through the gears before going full throttle
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Fenster
Canelo is really nothing like Hatton. One guy starts at a hundred miles an hour the other goes through the gears before going full throttle
One gets picked up by girls at the bar. The other one gets knocked the fuck out by bouncers at the bar.
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Violent Demise
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Fenster
Canelo is really nothing like Hatton. One guy starts at a hundred miles an hour the other goes through the gears before going full throttle
One gets picked up by girls at the bar. The other one gets knocked the fuck out by bouncers at the bar.
Considering Hatton is a little chubby fucker it's not surprising he got duffed up by a bouncer. (i've never seen the fight myself but if the bouncer was smaller than him he must have been one serious hard cunt)
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Fenster
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Violent Demise
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Fenster
Canelo is really nothing like Hatton. One guy starts at a hundred miles an hour the other goes through the gears before going full throttle
One gets picked up by girls at the bar. The other one gets knocked the fuck out by bouncers at the bar.
Considering Hatton is a little chubby fucker it's not surprising he got duffed up by a bouncer. (i've never seen the fight myself but if the bouncer was smaller than him he must have been one serious hard cunt)
Yet another loss Hatton refused to avenge.
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cambay411
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bradlee180
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Beanflicker
I'm not denying his size advantage, I'm just puzzled as to why suddenly Saul is a better fighter than Ricky Hatton?
Alvarez is a better fighter than Hatton. More tools, more skills.
I made a thread about Alvarez over 3 years ago because I know
The Goods when I see it...
Hatton was a good fighter and was in fact
The Man at 140, but there's a clear difference in class here between Alvarez and Hatton, just as there was a difference when Hatton fought both Pacquiao and Mayweather and was out-classed by both. joe cortez helped Mayweather, but even without his help, I can't see Hatton winning that one.
I really cant see Hatton winning either but there were way to many times Cortez broke up the action for no reason when Hatton was putting on some pressure and Floyd was getting pounded on and Hatton had him on the ropes. No clinch or anything.
That could have made a huge difference in the fight. It definately saved Floyd from taking quite a few shots.
Floyd would have taken more shots, especially to the body, and it would've been a better fight if Cortez had let them fight instead of robbing the paying public with his bull$#!t, but I don't think Hatton would've come out the winner. He would've got his pound of flesh each rd, but Floyd still would've been winning the rds. Cortez robbed everybody of a good fight.
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Some have tried this and failed. The only difference is that canelo is THE BIGGEST guy floyd has ever fought. And that give him the leverage to use this "mauling" tactic. But if canelo forgets he can also box and use the jab to get in on floyd, he'll be countered into a KO IMO.
But look at the arm difference guys http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/hs...ACEOFF-310.jpg
Canelo is a much thicker guy. Floyd could get hurt.
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Duran also picked Robert Guerrero to beat Mayweather and compared it to his own matchup against Leonard.
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Hulk
Duran also picked Robert Guerrero to beat Mayweather and compared it to his own matchup against Leonard.
Guerrero promised a lot but did not deliver anything close to what he said he was going to do.
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FinitoElDinamita
Legendary boxer Roberto "Hands of Stone" Duran has advised WBC/WBA 154-pound champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (42-0-1, 30KOs) to maul Floyd Mayweather Jr. (44-0, 26KOs) on September 14th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Duran told Nacion the proper stategy that he would use if he was going up against Mayweather, stating that most fighters make a huge error by always trying to land shots on Canelo's head.
"If I was going up against a boxer like that, I would bust him up. I would bust him all over the place...the arms, the ribs. The first thing you have to do is forget about the head. The head is smaller than the body. You have to break a man down, and in order to do so you're going to hit him in the kidneys and he'll slowly begin to stop [his movement] and after four rounds he will no longer be able to walk," Duran said.
Yep, he's exactly right... I always thought this was the only way to fight Floyd.
Easier said than done however. Floyd is the best defensive fighter i have ever seen, if Canelo can do what Duran says then we will have a great fight, but Canelo Alvarez is no Roberto Duran!
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I think everyone tries this and it doesn't work.. Now in canelos favor it could work because he will probably come in at around 170 something. But I feel his height is pretty mistaken last time vs trout they were both suppose to be 5'9 but it turned out Canelo was 5'7.5 then when you see guerrero vs mayweather it says he is 5'8. Canelos best chance will be patience in the middle of the ring and throw nice stiff jabs with his head down when ever floyd throws. Then work off the ones that land, if not relocate and wait for his next move. But everyone tries to brawl him, if he's taller then go for it cuz he can get over the shoulder roll. But if not then sit patiently and throw when thrown at. The way to beat a fighter is to get him out of his element well by going crazy your keeping floyd in his best which is defense you need to make him take the first move.
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Hulk
Duran also picked Robert Guerrero to beat Mayweather and compared it to his own matchup against Leonard.
Duran I'm pretty sure was expecting Mayweather to like Leonard, instead of fighting like Paul Malignaggi
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Violent Demise
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Hulk
Duran also picked Robert Guerrero to beat Mayweather and compared it to his own matchup against Leonard.
Duran I'm pretty sure was expecting Mayweather to like Leonard, instead of fighting like Paul Malignaggi
Yes he went back to running, at least in the Cotto fight he stood and made it a entertaining fight.
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I like how master ring generalship, hitting and not getting hit, effective aggression and dominating every opponent he ever faced is akin to running. How many rounds has the guy lost in his career? Castillo probably won more in their first fight then all other opponents combined. And how many opponents tried to maul, crowd and trap him? Lets get real here, the pharmacist at the local drug store that does not even follow the sport would give the same advice.
The kid at least imo has the best chance to beat Floyd then any other that came before him and he wont have Cortez in the ring to ruin his chances.
