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Obscure journeymen that we liked!
Man,
As a result of the recent buzz about Lolenga Mock, you guys made me think about other obscure journeymen that we grew to love- sometimes on the spot, or years after we see their brilliance.
I think it was done before- I think I started it too- but what are some of the journeymen you liked. Obscure guys that rose to the occasion to have one good fight, or one good sparring session, and that was IT. lololol...
Emmanuel Augustus HAS to be top on the list. He came back after a shiite decision to stop Coutney Burton in the rematch. Was on the way to BEATING Floyd Mayweather before the ref stopped the fight unjustly. ;D
Another guy I liked was the INFAMOUS Bert Cooper. The fight's he had against Evander Holyfield and Michael Moorer were fights of legend.
The fight with Moorer only lasted 5 rounds, but I can watch those 5 rounds again and again before I sit and watch some of these HW fights.
Who else tops your list?
(Ross Purity gets a special mention as well. He was the first person to chin-check Wlad. After that, chin-checking Wlad was something any fast and powerful HW could do.)
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ykdadamaja
Man,
As a result of the recent buzz about Lolenga Mock, you guys made me think about other obscure journeymen that we grew to love- sometimes on the spot, or years after we see their brilliance.
I think it was done before- I think I started it too- but what are some of the journeymen you liked. Obscure guys that rose to the occasion to have one good fight, or one good sparring session, and that was IT. lololol...
Emmanuel Augustus HAS to be top on the list. He came back after a shiite decision to stop Coutney Burton in the rematch. Was on the way to BEATING Floyd Mayweather before the ref stopped the fight unjustly. ;D
Another guy I liked was the INFAMOUS Bert Cooper. The fight's he had against Evander Holyfield and Michael Moorer were fights of legend.
The fight with Moorer only lasted 5 rounds, but I can watch those 5 rounds again and again before I sit and watch some of these HW fights.
Who else tops your list?
(Ross Purity gets a special mention as well. He was the first person to chin-check Wlad. After that, chin-checking Wlad was something any fast and powerful HW could do.)
Lolenga Mock.
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Martin Rogan the real life Rocky had a good buzz for a while the common man backing him in full
Corrie Sanders for a while, Mickey Ward is one of the best examples and popular ones to boot
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Jesse Ferguson.
He whupped Ray Mercer when Mercer was a top fighter, and it cost Mercer a huge payday because Mercer's next fight was to be for Riddick Bowe's Heavyweight Title. There was a hearing over Mercer's alleged bribe attempt during the fight, trying to get Ferguson to lay down for $100 thousand, but Ferguson wouldn't do it, and continued to motor on, winning the decision over Mercer.
Ferguson was tough and fearless, he'd step in the ring to fight anybody.
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I would probably have to say Mock.
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bradlee180
Jesse Ferguson.
He whupped Ray Mercer when Mercer was a top fighter, and it cost Mercer a huge payday because Mercer's next fight was to be for Riddick Bowe's Heavyweight Title. There was a hearing over Mercer's alleged bribe attempt during the fight, trying to get Ferguson to lay down for $100 thousand, but Ferguson wouldn't do it, and continued to motor on, winning the decision over Mercer.
Ferguson was tough and fearless, he'd step in the ring to fight anybody.
Yes, yes... Jesse "The Boogeyman" Ferguson. He was rated as a top contender with championship quality. Analysts really felt he would be able to "do it"- and particularly compete with Mike Tyson.
The hype around Ferguson now kinda makes me think about the shiite hype around Seth Mitchell. Seth Mitchell CLEARLY doesn't have the skills or the resume to be in the top 15- but he was, and he was being touted as a major contender. Thank God Arreola saw to it that the fraud was exposed- if J. Banks hadn't already done so.
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George 'Scrap Iron' Johnson
Eddie Machen
Ray 'Windmill' White
Cleveland 'Big Cat' Williams
Could go on and on!
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beenKOed
George 'Scrap Iron' Johnson
Eddie Machen
Ray 'Windmill' White
Cleveland 'Big Cat' Williams
Lolenga Mock
Could go on and on!
Great list I agree with the last one a lot.
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oakleyno1
Lolenga Mock!!!
Agreed.
Another one for you Al.
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ykdadamaja
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bradlee180
Jesse Ferguson.
He whupped Ray Mercer when Mercer was a top fighter, and it cost Mercer a huge payday because Mercer's next fight was to be for Riddick Bowe's Heavyweight Title. There was a hearing over Mercer's alleged bribe attempt during the fight, trying to get Ferguson to lay down for $100 thousand, but Ferguson wouldn't do it, and continued to motor on, winning the decision over Mercer.
Ferguson was tough and fearless, he'd step in the ring to fight anybody.
Yes, yes... Lolenga "The Boogeyman" Mock. He was rated as a top contender with championship quality. Analysts really felt he would be able to "do it"- and particularly compete with Mike Tyson.
The hype around Mock now kinda makes me think about the shiite hype around Seth Mitchell. Seth Mitchell CLEARLY doesn't have the skills or the resume to be in the top 15- but he was, and he was being touted as a major contender. Thank God Arreola saw to it that the fraud was exposed- if J. Banks hadn't already done so.
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I never knew that about Mock.
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Mock is obviously the best, although I'm not sure it's fair to call a man that dropped David Haye a journeyman. I think he could have even given Carl Thompson a tough fight if he dedicated himself, real shame we never got to see his prime years.
He is fighting for the EU light heavy title coming up though, I wonder if Haye would do a catchweight. Mock isn't going anywhere, that rematch needs to happen if Haye wants any credibility at HW.
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Monte Barret,
Quality fighter, got a freebie to see him fight Vitali in London (well mudchute) great night and still think Monte is the bis.
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Buck Smith the ultimate modern day journeyman.
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*just when I call Johnny Gonzalez a jounerman, he comes back and ko's another top tier fighter... the guy has a memory of a fish. he can get ko'ed in one fight and come back and ko a better fighter the next time out... he's a real old school type fighter.. I've been watching him for years.
*Delvin Rodriquez..what a badass. the guy is a gangster in the night. I have friends that say he's giving it one more try.. training his ass off... if it weren't for his loss to Austin Trout, he'd have a little win streak going on... he'll fight Cotto... believe me, u don't sleep on DR.
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bigstinkybug
*just when I call Johnny Gonzalez a jounerman, he comes back and ko's another top tier fighter... the guy has a memory of a fish. he can get ko'ed in one fight and come back and ko a better fighter the next time out... he's a real old school type fighter.. I've been watching him for years.
*Delvin Rodriquez..what a badass. the guy is a gangster in the night. I have friends that say he's giving it one more try.. training his ass off... if it weren't for his loss to Austin Trout, he'd have a little win streak going on... he'll fight Cotto... believe me, u don't sleep on DR.
Rodriguez only looks good against C fighters like himself. Every time he steps up he loses. His performance (If you can call it that) in the Trout fight was pathetic. Cotto as shot as he is should still have enough to beat Delvin Rodriguez
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Kermit Cintron...you just never know what side of the ring that wacky ol' trial horse will jump out of next ;D
There are literally hundreds! Sanderline Williams was quality, Kevin f'n Pompey! Monte Barrett, Marion Wilson on his chin alone and facing everyone and their mother. Brett Lally, Mike Stewart, Tomas Rojas, Ezra Sellars, Uriah Grant and so on. Journeymen make the world go round
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Ultimate journeyman turned champ can only be one guy.....................
Fearless Freddie Pendleton.
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Another journeyman I liked was Antwun Echols... his wars with Charles Brewer and Bernard Hopkins are stuff of YouTube legend.
;D
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Originally Posted by
bradlee180
Jesse Ferguson.
He whupped Ray Mercer when Mercer was a top fighter, and it cost Mercer a huge payday because Mercer's next fight was to be for Riddick Bowe's Heavyweight Title. There was a hearing over Mercer's alleged bribe attempt during the fight, trying to get Ferguson to lay down for $100 thousand, but Ferguson wouldn't do it, and continued to motor on, winning the decision over Mercer.
Ferguson was tough and fearless, he'd step in the ring to fight anybody.
One of the best was when HBO brought him in as cannon fodder for humongous rebounding Sampson Pouha. Jesse proceeded to literally spank him like a shell shocked toddler caught coloring on the wall. Great night for the Boogeyman.
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Dark Lord Al
Ultimate journeyman turned champ can only be one guy.....................
Fearless Freddie Pendleton.
I think at one stage Freddie was 12-12-1
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Carl Thompson was always exciting and provided good value.
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Dark Lord Al
Ultimate journeyman turned champ can only be one guy.....................
Fearless Freddie Pendleton.
And Glenn The Road Warrior Johnson.
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Dark Lord Al
Ultimate journeyman turned champ can only be one guy.....................
Fearless Freddie Pendleton.
Nice one. Both him and Augustus had similar w/l records.
Have not given much thought to all time but both Moyer brothers would qualify. Phil and Deny.
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Master
Carl Thompson was always exciting and provided good value.
A fight between him and Mock would of been the stuff of dreams!
Augustus all day long though. Him or Mock.
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Jimanuel Boogustus
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Master
Carl Thompson was always exciting and provided good value.
A fight between him and Mock would of been the stuff of dreams!
Augustus all day long though. Him or Mock.
Yea Mock
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I am seeing Mock all over the place. What have I missed?
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These guys may have been more than a journeyman at their best but even when they were slipping, I enjoyed watching Juan El Pollo Valenzuela and Vivian Harris..
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