Floyd needs to fight Manny Pacquiao now... quit duckin' the dude.

Floyd can't even bear to hear Manny's name without getting scared... lolol... Manny lost already so it would be easier for Manny to take the fight, and the fight would still generate more money than anything else or any other fight. Just take the fight. lololol....

Floyd Mayweather-Canelo Alvarez, a must see fight - ESPN

Are u that stupid it's bob arum that's the problem floyd hates him and golden boy also hates him, as much as I would still love to see that fight its NEVER happening as long as pacman is with arum

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Are u that stupid it's bob arum that's the problem floyd hates him and golden boy also hates him, as much as I would still love to see that fight its NEVER happening as long as pacman is with arum

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I know Arum is the problem... I like to call Floyd chicken-spit anyways. He DOES get scared when he hears Manny's name.

Plus, Floyd has fought Arum fighters before- Marquez being one of them. So, the fight can be made...

Come on u seriously think floyds scared of any fighter never mind pacman ? I doubt there's any boxer at the top level who's scared of anyone. If pacman were to beat rios and then split from arum there's no doubt in my mind they would be fighting in may and if pacman really wants the fight and let's be honest he needs it floyd doesn't then he has to dump arum.

Pac Man is done, he got knocked out that alone means he will never be the same fighter again. It is too late in his career to change for Manny.

im sorry bro, wth is many offering that can beat Floyd, enough with this, the ease at which he disposed canelo of is scary, many would get destroyed, don't forget many is marquez equal, and marquez got fucked up.

Manny still presents big money if he gets past rios.
But as someone said theres an issue with bob arum.

Manny needs Floyd more than Floyd needs Manny.

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Floyd can't even bear to hear Manny's name without getting scared... lolol... Manny lost already so it would be easier for Manny to take the fight, and the fight would still generate more money than anything else or any other fight. Just take the fight. lololol....

Floyd Mayweather-Canelo Alvarez, a must see fight - ESPN

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Funny guy

Despite Mannys recent KO I still think a Manny v Floyd fight would still be a good watch. I mean look at the Floyd fights we have been watching as of late. Of course if Manny were to lose to Rios than Manny is done but Manny has been fighting since he was Twelve I just don't think a knockout will finish Manny. Not saying he would definitely beat Floyd but it would have to be better than these fights we have seen. It's the only match up that I would PPV, I'm tired of paying money to see the same old same old.

If the fight had happened in 2009 it would of presented the biggest test of Floyds career and IF he had won it, we would be talking about him being the greatest pound for pound boxer of all time. But even if the bout happens now it wont prove anything, both fighters are past their peak, Manny by quite some way too. It would just be another cash cow for Floyd to milk.

I don't care for the fight , but I wonder if Manny ko's Rios is everyone gonna start boosting up this fight again? Do people really think it'll happen? -_-

To paraphrase the late Robert Kennedy:

There are those who look at Mayweather-Pacquiao and ask why..... I think of Mayweather-Pacquiao and ask why not?


Seriously. Who else is out there? Number one.
Number two......
He just gave Canelo Alvarez a shot.

Now here's a pop quiz for everyone:

Who has had the more accomplished career between the two.
Manny? or Canelo?

Seriously that ship has http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...cific/ship.jpg

yeah the fans missed out bigtime on that fight.... the timeline has now sadly passed when it would have been competitive.

which sadly means that floyd will prod now fight him. :rolleyes:

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yeah the fans missed out bigtime on that fight.... the timeline has now sadly passed when it would have been competitive.

which sadly means that floyd will prod now fight him. :rolleyes:

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Lol you could be right but it means about as much as Tyson/Lewis.

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Are u that stupid it's bob arum that's the problem floyd hates him and golden boy also hates him, as much as I would still love to see that fight its NEVER happening as long as pacman is with arum

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A fucking men and lets not forget that all Pac had to do was take a random drug test and the fight would have happened and Pac came up with excuses to not take them like he was hiding something. Pac and Arum are the ones to blame for the mega fight not happening.

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yeah the fans missed out bigtime on that fight.... the timeline has now sadly passed when it would have been competitive.

which sadly means that floyd will prod now fight him. :rolleyes:

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Lol you could be right but it means about as much as Tyson/Lewis.

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Ha you read my mind as I was gonna use that exact fight as a comparison in that post ;)

really bro?! :-\ Manny has on paper lost 2 in a row, in reality should be 1-2 in his last 3 fights the most recent being him getting KTFO by Marquez, Mayweather still undefeated and just beat up the guy considered the man at 154 theres a reason why Manny is taking on Rios who's coming off of a loss and is moving up in weight to face Pacquiao, just last year Manny was saying "Brandon Rios? Whose that?"

Manny needs to win big against Rios and dominantly if he even wants to make any type of claim to face Floyd now

Sure... let's wait for Manny-Rios, but why are so many people dead set against Floyd-Manny? Granted, it doesn't have the appeal of a few years ago. But it's not like there's a conga line of fighters lined up outside Floyd's door with the credentials to fight him. Look at the big hype for Canelo... and the inevitable results. If Canelo "deserved" a shot at Mayweather (he really didn't), surely Manny Pacquiao does also.

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Sure... let's wait for Manny-Rios, but why are so many people dead set against Floyd-Manny? Granted, it doesn't have the appeal of a few years ago. But it's not like there's a conga line of fighters lined up outside Floyd's door with the credentials to fight him. Look at the big hype for Canelo... and the inevitable results. If Canelo "deserved" a shot at Mayweather (he really didn't), surely Manny Pacquiao does also.

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I never felt Canelo deserved a shot, but credit to Mayweather cause it is the fight that a lot of fight fans and writers were calling for now and he delivered, but my beef is that Manny was the one holding up the fight to begin with, he's the one that has slipped, he's the one who wants the fight now, so he should have to work up to getting it and show Mayweather a reason to pick it up, Manny NEEDS to beat Rios impressively if he wants to continue his career as a top fighter

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Floyd can't even bear to hear Manny's name without getting scared... lolol... Manny lost already so it would be easier for Manny to take the fight, and the fight would still generate more money than anything else or any other fight. Just take the fight. lololol....

Floyd Mayweather-Canelo Alvarez, a must see fight - ESPN

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What are you talking about ?

Canelo was far more dangerous of a fight for Mayweather than Pac-Man. And look what happened there ? Manny is coming off being nearly decapitated by JMM and before that he lost to Bradley. (Yes. Yes I think Manny won against Bradley but having looked at the fight again. It was not the robbery people make out) Even Freddie Roach does not want to work with Manny or maybe Manny does not want to work with Freddie.

Let's face it the Pac-Mans bubble has been burst.

Honestly people are not going to give Floyd credit until he steps in the ring with the Klitschkos.....at the same time and beats them with one hand tied behind his back

I also get the feeling that Floyd has to win all his three or four of his remaining fights CLEARLY to get the decision. Any close fight and he won't get it. He is not liked in the ring or outside it. Plus people want to see that '0' go. The 114-114 draw was a disgrace and I even think the 117-111 was dubious.

I did not give Canelo a round.

The funny thing is I don't think Floyd destroyed Canelo or even put a clinic on him because Canelo was always in the fight and he was never badly shaken. But Mayweather won clearly

He will run Manny out the ring. Indeed I fear for Manny's health should this fight happen. As I see another Mayweather - Corrales or Mayweather - Gatti type beating for Manny.

We can't give Mayweather a win before he actually wins, even though he is undefeated.

Everyone in boxing knows that styles makes fights... and at this stage, Manny's style vs. Floyd's style is what is making that fight notion between them remain in the air.

Everyone pretty much summed up the issue that Marquez had a little extra pop in his shot the night he dropped Manny... thanks to Angel Heredia...

With that being said, let's see what happens for Manny-Rios and then ask again: Why not Manny Pacquiao, Floyd?

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We can't give Mayweather a win before he actually wins, even though he is undefeated.

Everyone in boxing knows that styles makes fights... and at this stage, Manny's style vs. Floyd's style is what is making that fight notion between them remain in the air.

Everyone pretty much summed up the issue that Marquez had a little extra pop in his shot the night he dropped Manny... thanks to Angel Heredia...

With that being said, let's see what happens for Manny-Rios and then ask again: Why not Manny Pacquiao, Floyd?

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Really dude?!?! lol Manny Pacquiao fans of all people are gonna try and make the claim that another fighter (despite the fact that he arguably beat Manny already 3 times prior) juiced up to beat him? haha

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Floyd can't even bear to hear Manny's name without getting scared... lolol... Manny lost already so it would be easier for Manny to take the fight, and the fight would still generate more money than anything else or any other fight. Just take the fight. lololol....

Floyd Mayweather-Canelo Alvarez, a must see fight - ESPN

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What are you talking about ?

Canelo was far more dangerous of a fight for Mayweather than Pac-Man. And look what happened there ? Manny is coming off being nearly decapitated by JMM and before that he lost to Bradley. (Yes. Yes I think Manny won against Bradley but having looked at the fight again. It was not the robbery people make out) Even Freddie Roach does not want to work with Manny or maybe Manny does not want to work with Freddie.

Let's face it the Pac-Mans bubble has been burst.

Honestly people are not going to give Floyd credit until he steps in the ring with the Klitschkos.....at the same time and beats them with one hand tied behind his back

I also get the feeling that Floyd has to win all his three or four of his remaining fights CLEARLY to get the decision. Any close fight and he won't get it. He is not liked in the ring or outside it. Plus people want to see that '0' go. The 114-114 draw was a disgrace and I even think the 117-111 was dubious.

I did not give Canelo a round.

The funny thing is I don't think Floyd destroyed Canelo or even put a clinic on him because Canelo was always in the fight and he was never badly shaken. But Mayweather won clearly

He will run Manny out the ring. Indeed I fear for Manny's health should this fight happen. As I see another Mayweather - Corrales or Mayweather - Gatti type beating for Manny.

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I still think Floyd v Pac could be an exciting fight. Pac lost a bit of speed but even so he is the only one I can think of that can give Floyd a run for his money with hand speed. I am not of the mind that the KO is going to alter Manny so much he will be a different fighter.

I would still like to see the fight.

Despite everyone saying Alvarez is the one person who could beat PBF its not true. The one person who can beat him is Pac.

Heres why:

Pac has the speed to cut the ring off and the stamina to throw punches all fight with bad intentions on most punches. But would his chin hold up if he gets hit? hes got alot of miles now.

If Pacs chin can still hold up then it would be questionable to me if PBF would have enough power in his punches to keep Pac off of him at all.

Tho PBF may be the best defensive fighter and counter puncher he doesnt have the power of someone like JMM to keep Pac honest. Im not saying Floyd couldnt KO Pac im just saying if Pacs chin is like it was several years ago I would see it as highly unlikely.

I think Pac is just a bad match up for Floyd.

Of course all this depends on how faded Pac is.



PS

If Pac isnt faded he could have a chance to win on points. If Pas is faded he becomes a punching bag somewhere right after mid fight.

Floyd beat Manny but this fight would still be the richest fight in boxing history.

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not anymore it wont, IMO Pacquiao wont have the pull he had before

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Sure... let's wait for Manny-Rios, but why are so many people dead set against Floyd-Manny? Granted, it doesn't have the appeal of a few years ago. But it's not like there's a conga line of fighters lined up outside Floyd's door with the credentials to fight him. Look at the big hype for Canelo... and the inevitable results. If Canelo "deserved" a shot at Mayweather (he really didn't), surely Manny Pacquiao does also.

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I never felt Canelo deserved a shot, but credit to Mayweather cause it is the fight that a lot of fight fans and writers were calling for now and he delivered, but my beef is that Manny was the one holding up the fight to begin with, he's the one that has slipped, he's the one who wants the fight now, so he should have to work up to getting it and show Mayweather a reason to pick it up, Manny NEEDS to beat Rios impressively if he wants to continue his career as a top fighter

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All good points. Manny's stock has fallen, to be sure. He does need an impressive victory over Rios to get back in Floyd-Manny conversations. It's the part about fight fans and writers clamoring for a Floyd-Canelo fight. All that does is point out the fact that boxing can be 90% hype... 10% earned credentials. Canelo was a TV hype job... clear and simple. The good looking, red-haired Mexican boy with looming soap opera contracts and a huge female fan base. The second coming of Oscar. You yourself know his bloated record was filled with bums and washed-up fighters. All Floyd did was say, "Ok... I'll whip this guy's ass, and if that's who they think is going to take my "0", I'll be glad to play along with the hype." Manny's stock is down... but he's had a stellar career already. Canelo was rushed into a mega-fight without the goods..... OR the resume. It's JCC Jr. all over again. All hype... and then gets schooled when he finally gets gifted a shot at the big time.

The thing is, its a lose lose situation for Floyd.

Even if he wins people will say Pac was washed up and Floyd waited until he was faded on purpose etc etc.

And even 50 years from now when people look back at the records it will show Floyd fighting someone who lost back to back fights, was old and still some how got a shot at the undefeated P4P king. So it will not even look like a good win to them.

With all that being said the fight still needs to happen lol and the sooner the better.

Manny would still be tougher opponent than a number of Floyd's recent fights, as Jack Kennedy said " we do this and the next thing not because they are easy, but because they are hard." Floyd will pick the easy and probably fight Khan so he can have a late in life KO to retire with.

I'm banning the next motherfucker who quotes a Kennedy.

Scared?! Ducking?! Some people really need to get a fucking clue. Floyd would have schooled Manny a few years ago...right now...he would brutalize him.

People forget that their common opponents, Cotto, DLH and Mosely... Pac-man DESTROYED THEM, while Floyd had his toughest fights ever.

Manny shouldn't have had that Marquez 4th fight. It was clear that Arum was gonna make them fight until Marquez "won"...

Styles make fights. If I fought and prepared for a guy 3 times, one of those 3 times I would win.

Give me a break- plus, Manny was kicking Marquez's ass before he got caught. KICKING HIS ASS!!!

Marquez was clearly juiced up. Funny how no one looked into that??
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Scared?! Ducking?! Some people really need to get a fucking clue. Floyd would have schooled Manny a few years ago...right now...he would brutalize him.

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When since do we give fighters wins before the actually fight?
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Manny needs Floyd more than Floyd needs Manny.

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to be quite honest pal i dont think either of them need the other

both are multi millionaires and manny beats rios he could get a multi million pound fight again straight after

and if he won that another and/or another marquez fight for lots of bish

in fact id say manny doesnt need floyd at all, a one sided beating would end his pulling power

As long as Manny beats Rios, there's not another fighter below 160 worth mentioning in the same breath as Floyd. I'd prefer this fight over anything other than GGG or Martinez

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People forget that there common opponents, Cotto, DLH and Mosely, Pac-man DESTROYED THEM, while Floyd had his toughest fights ever.

Manny shouldn't have had that Marquez 4th fight. It was clear that Arum was gonna make them fight until Marquez "won"...

Styles make fights. If I fought and prepared for a guy 3 times, one of those 3 times I would win.

Give me a break- plus, Manny was kicking Marquez's ass before he got caught. KICKING HIS ASS!!!

Marquez was clearly juiced up. Funny how no one looked into that??
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HAHAHAHA, yea cause getting dropped in the 3rd and consistently getting tagged with counter rights throughout the fight, landed a flash knockdown himself and then got KTFO by yet another clean perfectly timed RIGHT HAND

and yes styles make fights, that's distinctly why Marquez has whooped Pacquiao's ass 4 times already, Pacquiao lucky to have the judges in his pocket the other 3 times out, cause even when he would nit pick when he'd give Marquez his rematches it would always bite him in the ass

as for the common opponents, there should be a * next to the conditions each fought them in

DLH - Floyd took him on at 154 when DLH had just come off of a sensational win against Ricardo Mayorga, Pacquiao took him on at 147 a weight where he hadn't fought at in over 10 yrs, coming off a shitty performance against Forbes, and where Roach himself said that he knew that DLH had to be re-hydrated by IV

Cotto - Pacquiao took him forcing him to a catchweight, and after Cotto was coming off a weak showing against Clottey, also Cotto literally had no corner going into that fight, Mayweather took on Cotto after he beat Margarito around the ring in a dominant win, and a good trainer behind him, also fought at the full weight limit of 154 not at a catchweight

Mosley - Mayweather took him on when he was coming off his last big win a TKO of Margarito, and although he was stunned in the 2nd round, he went on to dominate the rest of the round and if he would have applied more pressure he probably could have stopped Mosley later on in the fight, Pacquiao took on Mosley after Shane had already lost to Floyd and fought to a draw against Sergio Fucking MORA lol and even if he dropped Shane in the 3rd, Mosley scored up a KD of his own (doesn't matter how real it was, it was counted) against Pacquiao

now lets go to the other common opponent, Marquez - he arguably beat Pacquiao 4 times, and clearly KNOCKED HIM THE FUCK OUT in the only KO WIN OF THE RIVALRY, while Floyd beat the living snot out of Marquez easily, toying with him after being out of the sport for nearly 2 yrs, again he could have easily stopped him but didn't pressure for the KO

as for Marquez juicing? Really?! you guys are just getting sad now, first it was the infamous "foot stomping technique" lol now that Marquez was juicing, lets not forget Pacquiao's equally infamous "I'm scared of needles" statement to avoid taking blood tests for a Mayweather fight, sooooo yea just take the ass whooping in defeat, and stop trying to glorify your idol whose taken a deep fall from grace

hell Boxrec the worst ranking system on the planet was constantly used by you guys to boost up your claim for Manny being #1 and now they have him at #13 hahaha but even the credible rankings like The Ring, has him at #6 haha must suck :-\

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floyd can't even bear to hear manny's name without getting scared... Lolol... Manny lost already so it would be easier for manny to take the fight, and the fight would still generate more money than anything else or any other fight. Just take the fight. Lololol....

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now is the time ........ Nobody else out there worthy of fighting mayweather

The Pacquiao/Mayweather horse has long since bolted & ended up in a Tesco 'beef' ready meal.

The time for them to fight was 2008/2009; sadly, in 2013, the fight no longer has the lustre it once had.