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At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
Saturday has proved once and for all that the dumb idea that Wlad is somehow a great role model for the sport of boxing is a crock of sh*t. He is famous for his day job. Whilst at work he ignores the rules, displays no respect for the integrity of the sport and pushes the idea of gamesmanship right out of the envelope. That is on top of the krap that he and his brother pull in paying their opponents derisory sums etc. Vitali is nowhere near as smug as Wlad but the pair are pretty insufferable and fast destroying the glamour division.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
Are there ANY real role models in boxing? I'll take a well educated, articulate gentleman who occasionally holds and wrestles way too much over the usual woman beating, drug abusing, violent thugs that boxing attracts.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
Saturday has proved once and for all that the dumb idea that Wlad is somehow a great role model for the sport of boxing is a crock of sh*t. He is famous for his day job. Whilst at work he ignores the rules, displays no respect for the integrity of the sport and pushes the idea of gamesmanship right out of the envelope. That is on top of the krap that he and his brother pull in paying their opponents derisory sums etc. Vitali is nowhere near as smug as Wlad but the pair are pretty insufferable and fast destroying the glamour division.
Bitter much?
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Beanflicker
Are there ANY real role models in boxing? I'll take a well educated, articulate gentleman who occasionally holds and wrestles way too much over the usual woman beating, drug abusing, violent thugs that boxing attracts.
That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Greenbeanz
That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.
Lennox Lewis vs Michael Grant......your thoughts?
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
Saturday has proved once and for all that the dumb idea that Wlad is somehow a great role model for the sport of boxing is a crock of sh*t. He is famous for his day job. Whilst at work he ignores the rules, displays no respect for the integrity of the sport and pushes the idea of gamesmanship right out of the envelope. That is on top of the krap that he and his brother pull in paying their opponents derisory sums etc. Vitali is nowhere near as smug as Wlad but the pair are pretty insufferable and fast destroying the glamour division.
Bitter much?
Not at all. It is you who is bitter and unwilling to debate. You have classed every one who does not subscribe to your own myopic view as a hater. Many started off on Saturday night surprisingly finding themselves behind Wlad hoping that he would deliver the goods and expose Povetkin and ended up the evening with no option but to shake their heads in disappointment. Wlad disgraced himself and left any real boxing fan with little option. You are in the minority because you backed yourself into a corner not because everyone else is bitter. You are entitled to your opinion but please do not be so quick to label anyone who disagrees as a hater. You are better than that.
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.
Lennox Lewis vs Michael Grant......your thoughts?
Lennox Lewis is not a role model. He was a far better, more entertaining and braver boxer than Wlad though.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Greenbeanz
Not at all. It is you who is bitter and unwilling to debate. You have classed every one who does not subscribe to your own myopic view as a hater. Many started off on Saturday night surprisingly finding themselves behind Wlad hoping that he would deliver the goods and expose Povetkin and ended up the evening with no option but to shake their heads in disappointment. Wlad disgraced himself and left any real boxing fan with little option. You are in the minority because you backed yourself into a corner not because everyone else is bitter. You are entitled to your opinion but please do not be so quick to label anyone who disagrees as a hater. You are better than that.
I called them haters and RIGHTFULLY SO!
When Ricky Hatton mauls someone and the ref does nothing it's "Well done Ricky, atta way!"
When Ricky gets called to task about his style it's "Booo ref boooooo!"
When Lennox Lewis did EVERYTHING that Wlad did it's "Lennox Lewis is a great champion never say his name in the same breath as Wladimir Klitschko"
You are a hater, you and every other fan who has been complaining about Wladimir or the ref.
I am pragmatic in my views and steadfast in them. If the ref calls foul then it's a foul, if not then it's not a foul. I am realistic about "fairness" in life. There were things Povetkin could do to try and "level the field" IF he thought he was being wronged (but by his statements he said he hadn't been wronged).
Keep whining about it I have read 0 from you or anyone else on Anthony Joshua's holding and hitting....you DO know that's illegal right????
I'm being consistent which is why I win the argument, you're playing favorites and that is why your argument is flawed and that is why you lose.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Greenbeanz
Lennox Lewis is not a role model. He was a far better, more entertaining and braver boxer than Wlad though.
Erroneous.....DID HE BOX WITHIN THE RULES
SURVEY SAYS NO
But as he didn't get called on it, I don't begrudge him his success....but YOU you DO begrudge Wlad his success and that's wrong.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:
Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.
He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.
He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.
He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.
He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.
He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.
He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.
He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.
He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.
He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.
He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.
He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.
He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.
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It matters not what Wlad DID NOT do and it's not about winning an argument. El Kabong and Freedom neither of you are being pragmatic or reasonable when you label anybody who does not agree with you as a hater.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
I'm sure he's a nice fella.
It takes a rather broad brush to suggest that anyone displeased with that performance by him or the ref is just a hater. I mean that about dummies the conversation down about as far as it can go. You see it does not matter who the fighters were. It was a terrible fight on multiple levels. It makes little difference to me whether I'm called a "hater" or not. That word has lost all meaning on boxing forums.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Greenbeanz
It matters not what Wlad DID NOT do and it's not about winning an argument. El Kabong and Freedom neither of you are being pragmatic or reasonable when you label anybody who does not agree with you as a hater.
No I labeled people who are picking and choosing when they want the rules enforced haters, and you're one of them Captain Sunshine ;)
I've been quite consistent in my argument. If the ref doesn't call it then it didn't happen. Same for Wlad as it is for anyone else and it's not a black mark on his career if he does what he did to Povetkin, it's not the first or last fight where the ref will be questioned about calls made or not made. All I ask of you and everyone else is BE CONSISTENT...either rule breaking = bad or not, you can't pick and choose who gets special rule breaking privileges. The ref didn't call it the other night, tough shit bud
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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IamInuit
I'm sure he's a nice fella.
It takes a rather broad brush to suggest that anyone displeased with that performance by him or the ref is just a hater. I mean that about dummies the conversation down about as far as it can go. You see it does not matter who the fighters were. It was a terrible fight on multiple levels. It makes little difference to me whether I'm called a "hater" or not. That word has lost all meaning on boxing forums.
No one is denying that Wlad was holding too much and it was an ugly fight. And no one is calling you a hater, I find your posts to be reasonable and objective.
However, the real Klitschko haters have been going overboard the past couple of days on these boxing forums.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
Not at all. It is you who is bitter and unwilling to debate. You have classed every one who does not subscribe to your own myopic view as a hater. Many started off on Saturday night surprisingly finding themselves behind Wlad hoping that he would deliver the goods and expose Povetkin and ended up the evening with no option but to shake their heads in disappointment. Wlad disgraced himself and left any real boxing fan with little option. You are in the minority because you backed yourself into a corner not because everyone else is bitter. You are entitled to your opinion but please do not be so quick to label anyone who disagrees as a hater. You are better than that.
I called them haters and RIGHTFULLY SO!
When Ricky Hatton mauls someone and the ref does nothing it's "Well done Ricky, atta way!"
When Ricky gets called to task about his style it's "Booo ref boooooo!"
When Lennox Lewis did EVERYTHING that Wlad did it's "Lennox Lewis is a great champion never say his name in the same breath as Wladimir Klitschko"
You are a hater, you and every other fan who has been complaining about Wladimir or the ref.
I am pragmatic in my views and steadfast in them. If the ref calls foul then it's a foul, if not then it's not a foul. I am realistic about "fairness" in life. There were things Povetkin could do to try and "level the field" IF he thought he was being wronged (but by his statements he said he hadn't been wronged).
Keep whining about it I have read 0 from you or anyone else on Anthony Joshua's holding and hitting....you DO know that's illegal right????
I'm being consistent which is why I win the argument, you're playing favorites and that is why your argument is flawed and that is why you lose.
I certainly aint a Wlad hater but u cant deny that the ref was shocking in that fight. Wlad was jumping in from a distance just to lean on Povetkin.
Agree Joshuas holding and hitting was filthy. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt that it was his debut.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Freedom
Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:
Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.
He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.
He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.
He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.
He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.
He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.
He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.
He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.
He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.
He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.
He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.
He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.
He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.
He's never pointed out any bad personal traits in other boxers either. ;D
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
Lyle you need to take the rose tinted glasses off Bud, he was truly terrible holding hitting
it was like watch the second coming, Hopkins I no you think the Klits are the dogs bollocks,!
No wonder HW boxing is shit, about as entertaining as a sick-bag, the sooner they retire the
better.:(
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Greenbeanz
That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.
Once again, I'll say that excessive holding in an occasional fight is a minor offense compared to the standard behaviour we've seen from other boxers.
If Wlad can't be a role model, I'd be interested in hearing who you think is a role model in boxing?
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Silkeyjoe
I certainly aint a Wlad hater but u cant deny that the ref was shocking in that fight. Wlad was jumping in from a distance just to lean on Povetkin.
Agree Joshuas holding and hitting was filthy. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt that it was his debut.
Calling a foul is up to the discretion of a referee. If he's not calling it then it's not happening.
I think one of the reasons the holding Wlad was doing wasn't called is that it isn't a kind of foul that further endangers the life of a fighter. It's not like a rabbit punch, a low blow, headbutt, or following through with an elbow.
I don't fault Joshua for holding and hitting at all...when you want to do damage to someone you'll ATTEMPT anything, he corrected himself after the warning.
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Beanflicker
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Greenbeanz
That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.
Once again, I'll say that excessive holding in an occasional fight is a minor offense compared to the standard behaviour we've seen from other boxers.
If Wlad can't be a role model, I'd be interested in hearing who you think is a role model in boxing?
Katie Taylor, Barry McGuigan, Scott Quigg, GGG, Mikell Kesseller, Vitali, Pacman. The list goes on. A lot of good role models in boxing.
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El Kabong
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Silkeyjoe
I certainly aint a Wlad hater but u cant deny that the ref was shocking in that fight. Wlad was jumping in from a distance just to lean on Povetkin.
Agree Joshuas holding and hitting was filthy. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt that it was his debut.
Calling a foul is up to the discretion of a referee. If he's not calling it then it's not happening.
I think one of the reasons the holding Wlad was doing wasn't called is that it isn't a kind of foul that further endangers the life of a fighter. It's not like a rabbit punch, a low blow, headbutt, or following through with an elbow.
Yes but it drains your opponent. Wlad hand picks the refs that don't call that type of fouls. I like Wlad, but I think if he made half an effort to entertain fans he could go down as one of the greatest. After 7 rounds Povetkin was gone yet he still refused to throw more then 2 punches at a time and insisted on holding.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Silkeyjoe
Pacman
You mean the guy who's had criminal complaints filed by his government against him for tax fraud?
And Vitali? The guy who got busted for steroids and thrown off the Ukrainian olympic team?
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
Simple, really.
- Those who are constantly ragging on Wlad for everything he does.... AND bitched about the fight..... are haters.
- Those who have given Wlad his just due over the years..... BUT bitched about the fight..... are NOT haters.
- Those who can see no wrong in anything Wlad does.... EVER.... and saw nothing wrong with the fight...... have serious blinders on.
Me.... I was firmly in the first group, but was working my way toward the 2nd group.
Verdict?
Yeah..... well, nobody's perfect. ;)
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I really think the ref did a shit job, but wlad is no different than any boxer in that hey hell do what he can to win...I do find it a bit odd though that so many posters are hating on wlad for holding, yet a certain goldenboy by the name of hatton held just as much in his fight against urango....not saying I liked wlads performance it was shit, he should have had pts deducted way before the tenth,but it was the easiest path to victory. the blame is on the ref wlad did his job the ref didn't. Also think it really hurts wlad not having manny yelling at him between rounds imploring him to knock the guy out. As for the question at hand as far as role models go in regards for Athletes ya can't ask for a better one than wlad.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
Hindsight is truly 20/20.
I have actually re-watched the thing 3 more times and then searched for a clinic dealing in masochism in the yellow pages. Just an ugly ass fight. I even slowed it down to a crawl and then singled out each man.
So now I’m going to have to retract a good portion of my criticism of Wlad and dish it out to Povetkin. He’s as much responsible for that mess as Wlad is. He was trying to come in under the jab bent over and then lifting up the back of his head. Like using his head as a counter if he missed the inside hook. He used his head much like Holyfield in that regard. Much of Wlads grabbing was a direct result of that tactic and the fact that he can’t fight off the back foot.
I’ve taken some cheap shots at Wlad by comparing him to the likes of Willard and Carnera and that’s also unfair. He would destroy both of those clowns. Frustration I suppose over a lame division that once was a historical main stay. Lamenting I guess past eras that I grew up on.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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TitoFan
Simple, really.
- Those who are constantly ragging on Wlad for everything he does.... AND bitched about the fight..... are haters.
- Those who have given Wlad his just due over the years..... BUT bitched about the fight..... are NOT haters.
- Those who can see no wrong in anything Wlad does.... EVER.... and saw nothing wrong with the fight...... have serious blinders on.
Me.... I was firmly in the first group, but was working my way toward the 2nd group.
Verdict?
Yeah..... well, nobody's perfect. ;)
haha what about the Borriqua ref Tito? Guy was seriously off the hook bro. Like I said we're bringin' in a Goombah to ref the next Klit fight.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Freedom
Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:
Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.
He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.
He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.
He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.
He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.
He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.
He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.
He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.
He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.
He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.
He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.
He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.
He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.
right he must be a role model then
mwahhhhab aha haahhaha ahhaahhaha ha haahhahahah
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
I am still stunned that people are still defending him after Saturday night
people are saying lots of boxers break the rules
this is true, but the worst rule breaking in history is only a fraction of the rule breaking that was seen on Saturday night
that is excluding wlads other fights of course
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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Greenbeanz
Saturday has proved once and for all that the dumb idea that Wlad is somehow a great role model for the sport of boxing is a crock of sh*t. He is famous for his day job. Whilst at work he ignores the rules, displays no respect for the integrity of the sport and pushes the idea of gamesmanship right out of the envelope. That is on top of the krap that he and his brother pull in paying their opponents derisory sums etc. Vitali is nowhere near as smug as Wlad but the pair are pretty insufferable and fast destroying the glamour division.
He is a great ambassador for the sport everywhere but in the ring. And to be fair, this past weekend was the worst I have ever seen him.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
Wait, Adonis Stevenson was a pimp?
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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CFH
Wait, Adonis Stevenson was a pimp?
He did jail time under sex trade laws. He grew up in Haiti living in a box.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
Greenbeanz is right, I actually sat down yesterday to watch this just to see if it was as bad as people have said it was appalling. He would throw a single punch and just run in to hug. What on earth is that and again and again again. That is NOT a great tactician, it is a dirty, scared to be hit cheat.
It is ridiculous to bring up personal lives too when it is boxing people are talking about. So, you would happily choose to watch a fighter who breaks all the rules just beause he is relatively clean outside the ring? Surely that is irrelevant to what you are watching which is a fight with its obvious rules and conditions. People pay to be ringside, people typically pay to see these fights on TV, they deserve to see a performance within the rules. If you don't get that then you should have a refund.
Also what someone does in their private life is their concern and if it is innappropriate then society will deal with them. It has nothing to do with following the rules in the ring which most fighters appear to do. Nobody hugs and holds like Wladimir Klitschko and he does it enough so that he needs to be warned, docked, docked again and then disqualified.
As I said in another thread if people are happy watching that shite, then good for them. But you don't need to watch his fights and should certainly never pay to watch them.
Tyson is the most exceptional case in that he bit an ear, but he was banned and justly so. You cannot do that. However, what he did privately is none of our business. It was his own career to ruin.
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Freedom
Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:
Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.
He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.
He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.
He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.
He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.
He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.
He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.
He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.
He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.
He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.
He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.
He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.
He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.
He's probably never eaten an ostrich burger or danced with the devil in the pale moon light either.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
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CFH
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Greenbeanz
Saturday has proved once and for all that the dumb idea that Wlad is somehow a great role model for the sport of boxing is a crock of sh*t. He is famous for his day job. Whilst at work he ignores the rules, displays no respect for the integrity of the sport and pushes the idea of gamesmanship right out of the envelope. That is on top of the krap that he and his brother pull in paying their opponents derisory sums etc. Vitali is nowhere near as smug as Wlad but the pair are pretty insufferable and fast destroying the glamour division.
He is a great ambassador for the sport everywhere but in the ring. And to be fair, this past weekend was the worst I have ever seen him.
i dont think i agree with this, the lop sided contracts and the way opponents are treated
all the advantages prepared before the fight, the lengthy rematch clauses signed
he's criminal to the sport inside and outside the ring, ok hes never been a pedo, doesnt make him a role model
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"He is a great ambassador for the sport everywhere but in the ring"
Hmmmm.
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
He's a great role model in the ring IMO, because he teaches the most important thing about the sweet science: HIT AND NOT GET HIT. Anyone who goes in there slugging and taking 5 punches to give 1 should not be looked up to. It's a fool's game!
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Re: At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust
Listen to Riddick Bowe talk....then when Wlad is his age listen to him.....there's a benefit to not allowing yourself to get unnecessarily hit in the head. Hell look at Lamon Brewster, he has damn near lost an eye due to how he fought.
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Beanflicker
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Silkeyjoe
Pacman
You mean the guy who's had criminal complaints filed by his government against him for tax fraud?
And Vitali? The guy who got busted for steroids and thrown off the Ukrainian olympic team?
Hes loved in his country - just like Nelson Mandela ;D
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El Kabong
Listen to Riddick Bowe talk....then when Wlad is his age listen to him.....there's a benefit to not allowing yourself to get unnecessarily hit in the head. Hell look at Lamon Brewster, he has damn near lost an eye due to how he fought.
best to cheat and foul then eh?
over and over and over and over and over and.................................