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How would the big Cuban have done in today's lackluster era?
Sure, he lacked discipline and a good chin, but he had power, size and serious skills.
Gonzalez beat Bowe and Lewis in consecutive nights in the amateurs but had a modest pro career.
I say he'd beat most anyone today aside from the Kiltschkos, Haye and maybe Arreola.
He'd have been a titlist for sure.
A lot more than them beat him. Including the smaller heavyweights like Tomasz Adamek and Johnathon Banks. Gonzalez was crap. His best win was a 85 year old Alex Stewart. That says it all
Funny you say he had a bad chin, I can still remember the build-up to the Bowe fight where he was boasting about never being put down in his life. Bowe gave him a savage beating then left him facedown unconcious.
LOL... Gonzalez, as a pro, was a fat and lazy bum. Comrade Fidel had those guys training like they were in the military. But when he defected and got used to eating hamburgers and pizza, started to suck on pretty blondes and had more than enough Budweisers, he forgot that he had to stay in shape and fight.Quote:
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He had the tools, but he was not a champion. Champions do the extra.
*I don't remember Gonzalez having much of a chin.
Adamek yes, Banks maybe.Quote:
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Gonzalez was a hell of a lot better than Oldenir Solis.
Taller at least and not prone to twisting his knee/ankle in title fights lol
He was pretty bad. Just a carefully steered hyped up type with amateur cred and connections. The moment he stepped up against guys unimpressed by the bad attitude, telegraph hooks and stupid hair cut he went splat. In Tampa they literally pulled a guy out if the audience who proceeded to crap himself when hit and left the ring wrapped in a towel!
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So he made men crap themselves! Who does that today? Wilder?
Wliders day might be coming ;DQuote:
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So he made men crap themselves! Who does that today? Wilder?
Source is my top shelf in the walk in closet and crusty VHS tapes ;D Think it was "Ben Smith". Lasted all of a minute. Now I have something check out tonight other than the train wreck that is the NY Giants.
Transfer it to DVD then upload it so we can be amused! It's for the cause man!Quote:
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So he made men crap themselves! Who does that today? Wilder?
Source is my top shelf in the walk in closet and crusty VHS tapes ;D Think it was "Ben Smith". Lasted all of a minute. Now I have something check out tonight other than the train wreck that is the NY Giants.
I would like to see it.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
So he made men crap themselves! Who does that today? Wilder?
Source is my top shelf in the walk in closet and crusty VHS tapes ;D Think it was "Ben Smith". Lasted all of a minute. Now I have something check out tonight other than the train wreck that is the NY Giants.
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He is the source. If he said it happened than it happened. Spicoli knows his boxing. He's off on the name. It was Benji Smith. Not Ben. But it's a true incident.Quote:
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So he made men crap themselves! Who does that today? Wilder?
I don't think he cracks the top ten honestly.
No dvd transfer...been putting that off for about 2 decades ;D. Extremely BAD quality i phone upload is all I can squeeze here! First time I tried this. Found this on "temp #5", dude was billed as "Big" Ben Smith 2-4 and turns out not a single punch landed in the 19 seconds. When a guy gets up holding his ass cheeks together, tries to leave the ring right off and ref repeating "somethings wrong with this guy" no question he shate himself ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FOXGmI78QQ I cut everything off back in the day so missed his duck waddle back to dressing room, but shit was classic! Left crackhead gets KO'd by Mosco on for the hell of it
I'm almost positive that led to the change of name to Benji. Can't say I blame him
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Jimmy Smith. Brilliant.
Sounds a lot like A. Harrison!Quote:
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Gonzales was hype as a pro, I think he was finished as a pro by having too many amateur fights and starting late.
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Jimmy Smith. Brilliant.
You are so kind. ;DQuote:
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He would be a bum, just as he was a bum in his time.
I'd imagine he would have a good career as long as he stuck to nobody opponents like Pianeta and Wach did.
But he would have likely lost to the decent opponents he fought from the top 10 or 20.
He was a great amateur boxer, very good pedigree but did not translate well to pro.
That is a great find , he brought a whole new meaning to having a stool in the corner.Quote:
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He was a bum back then and he would be a bum today... Only difference is he'd have an EBT card..