-
179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Buck Smith - Boxer
Buck Smith
Any hardcore fans ever see or hear of this man?
His best win seems to be stopping Kirkland Laing (a resident poster here) lol
Astonishing record for this Oklahoma boy. He once went 15 rounds with a fit Harold Braizer.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
he had loads of no contests
and all his losses came at the end virtually
he didnt exactly have an outstanding record in terms of oppponents tho did he
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
I can still remember the Kirkland Laing fight from when I was a kid (young teenager). It was midweek on a show called Sportsnight. Laing was wiping the floor with him then got caught and laid out with a monster shot.
120 KO's is some going.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
I can still remember the Kirkland Laing fight from when I was a kid (young teenager). It was midweek on a show called Sportsnight. Laing was wiping the floor with him then got caught and laid out with a monster shot.
120 KO's is some going.
I thought it was on 'Midweek Sports Special' ? Lol
I remember the fight too. Laing was clearly stoned!
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
I can still remember the Kirkland Laing fight from when I was a kid (young teenager). It was midweek on a show called Sportsnight. Laing was wiping the floor with him then got caught and laid out with a monster shot.
120 KO's is some going.
that makes you mid 30s and younger than me, which is suprising because you come across as much older and grumpier
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
It was a big hook that felled rastaman , I remember it well.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Grumpy? I'm more of a pisstaking cynical cunt. I think there's a difference. I'm 37.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Grumpy? I'm more of a pisstaking cynical cunt. I think there's a difference. I'm 37.
cynical cunt is probly a better description, im 39
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
I remember staying up for Midweek sport special and seing Laing get twatted, quite upsetting I remember.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
I used to love those midweek sport shows, that was the only way you got to see highlights of the football, boxing, snooker etc. Fucking unreal compared to these days.
Thought Laing was unconcious but he actually got up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Lxekm7Ofs
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
British premature stoppage? You'd never see it these days ;D
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hulk
Buck Smith - Boxer
Buck Smith
Any hardcore fans ever see or hear of this man?
His best win seems to be stopping Kirkland Laing (a resident poster here) lol
Astonishing record for this Oklahoma boy. He once went 15 rounds with a fit Harold Braizer.
*nothing really special about him, other than he fought a lot, and not on TV. I remember Chavez sr fighting a guy names Marty Jakobaski , or something like that... he was 96-1 I think, I never heard of him... he got ko'ed, but who didn't when they fought Chavez ,in his prime... Last I heard, damn, what's his name is still fighting...that guy that had his first loss to Tito Trinidad back in the 96 or so, from Mexico... he made Tony Ayala quit on his stool... anyway, that guy has to have over 100 fights..
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
If James Toney had been busier he could have a record like that too...
I imagine that this guy would have been self managed and always there for any promoter who wanted to fill out his fight card. He had some busy years in there too, no six month preparation for this guy! You'd really only get that kind of record either in the USA, where there is so much boxing available almost every week, but I doubt there's too many fighters anywhere else in the world with that kind of record.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
That was bullshit, Laing was fine to go on. Yeah I thought he was properly ironed out. Did well to get upright to be fair.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Buck Smith decided he wanted to fight, had no money, so he started fighting all the time. Getting paid for sparring, he called it. His manager, responding to criticism that Smith was only fighting bums, said that if you won't admit that Buck Smith can fight, then I must be one hell of a manager to keep finding guys he can beat.
He also beat Olympian Robert Wangila, ending his aspirations before David Gonzalez ended Wangila's life. He lost to Brazier, McGirt. By no means a world class fighter he made himself into a credible pro and had a lot more balls and professionalism about his game and the way he conducted his career than a whole roomful of guys that have made a bunch more money.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Decent enough guy and good story fit for a movie reel. The literal have gloves will travel. I remember him on USA a few times and him talking about actually driving to the arena with his opponent, sleeping in the parking lot and fighting multiple times a month. He had countless fights with the same opponents as well as fighting under aliases. He beat the snot outta Brandon croly and got robbed. They called him in as part of an investigation about fighters throwing or fixing fights, managers. I remember that Chavez fight and initially swore he tanked it.
-
Now that you mention it Spicoli, that KO did look fishy as did the whole fight. Smith just danced around Chavez, inexplicably chose to sporadically come inside to fight, threw pitter patt punches and retreated with his hands down. The combo that finished him off did not look that devastating, the first punch landed then the other two missed.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Quote:
Originally Posted by
greynotsoold
Buck Smith decided he wanted to fight, had no money, so he started fighting all the time. Getting paid for sparring, he called it. His manager, responding to criticism that Smith was only fighting bums, said that if you won't admit that Buck Smith can fight, then I must be one hell of a manager to keep finding guys he can beat.
He also beat Olympian Robert Wangila, ending his aspirations before David Gonzalez ended Wangila's life. He lost to Brazier, McGirt. By no means a world class fighter he made himself into a credible pro and had a lot more balls and professionalism about his game and the way he conducted his career than a whole roomful of guys that have made a bunch more money.
*I KO'ed David Gonzalez in the amatuers...
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
That video was the first I've seen of either and was hilarious. I skipped ahead, but seriously how awful was Laing? At least in that fight. You could see Smith tapping the X button to power up his left hook for like ten seconds before he threw it.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hulk
Buck Smith - Boxer
Buck Smith
Any hardcore fans ever see or hear of this man?
His best win seems to be stopping Kirkland Laing (a resident poster here) lol
Astonishing record for this Oklahoma boy. He once went 15 rounds with a fit Harold Braizer.
Yeah, he was on tv regular enough during the 90s, like on USA's Tuesday Night Fights.
He's a dude that made a real try of it in his youth, found he wasn't going to be good enough to be a World Champion, so he found a way to still make a living out of Boxing by fighting every week against lower-tier and mid-level fighters. As Sean O'Grady described him once, Buck Smith was like that minor-league homerun hitter who just was lacking that little extra something so he wasn't able to make that jump up to the next level to the major leagues.
He put on a decent 12 rd match with Buddy McGirt when McGirt was still good. Pretty amazing when they announced the records of these guys because they both had fought a lot. Buck Smith knew how to survive and handle himself in there.
Buck Smith said why spar for free during the week when he could just fight a few rds every week and get paid instead? He once fought twice on the same day in different states.
Buck Smith wasn't in the same vein as Reggie Strickland or Peter Buckley who knew their job was to show up, go the distance with young upcoming talent to give them experience, and lose the fight somewhat competitively without getting knocked out. It's not fight-fixing, but it's as close as you can come to it without calling it a fix.
No, Buck Smith preferred to win even if the fights were against lower and mid-level talent.
Boxing is built on fighters like them....
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Quote:
Originally Posted by
bigstinkybug
Quote:
Originally Posted by
greynotsoold
Buck Smith decided he wanted to fight, had no money, so he started fighting all the time. Getting paid for sparring, he called it. His manager, responding to criticism that Smith was only fighting bums, said that if you won't admit that Buck Smith can fight, then I must be one hell of a manager to keep finding guys he can beat.
He also beat Olympian Robert Wangila, ending his aspirations before David Gonzalez ended Wangila's life. He lost to Brazier, McGirt. By no means a world class fighter he made himself into a credible pro and had a lot more balls and professionalism about his game and the way he conducted his career than a whole roomful of guys that have made a bunch more money.
*I KO'ed David Gonzalez in the amatuers...
For real? He could fight some...How many times did he get shot?
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
I was gutted when he knocked out Lang but he was a good fighter and made money. I hope he kept it and is living well.
-
Re: 179 Wins, 120 by KO....
Quote:
Originally Posted by
greynotsoold
Quote:
Originally Posted by
bigstinkybug
Quote:
Originally Posted by
greynotsoold
Buck Smith decided he wanted to fight, had no money, so he started fighting all the time. Getting paid for sparring, he called it. His manager, responding to criticism that Smith was only fighting bums, said that if you won't admit that Buck Smith can fight, then I must be one hell of a manager to keep finding guys he can beat.
He also beat Olympian Robert Wangila, ending his aspirations before David Gonzalez ended Wangila's life. He lost to Brazier, McGirt. By no means a world class fighter he made himself into a credible pro and had a lot more balls and professionalism about his game and the way he conducted his career than a whole roomful of guys that have made a bunch more money.
*I KO'ed David Gonzalez in the amatuers...
For real? He could fight some...How many times did he get shot?
*yea..we sat next to eachother, waiting to fight... I remember him asking a guy what he gets when he wins...lol. I remember his bragging that he was Lupe Suarez sparing partner..right before I ko'ed him in 1.