I'm just not sold on him yet. His hands are down and slow on top of that. I think Stevenson is made to order for Hopkins or Ward. Please show me where I'm wrong.
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I'm just not sold on him yet. His hands are down and slow on top of that. I think Stevenson is made to order for Hopkins or Ward. Please show me where I'm wrong.
Will Ward move up for a fight with Stevenson? Has he called out Stevenson?
No because everybody knows he'll kick Stevenson ass like he owns him money. I'm not saying he's a bum. He is yet another big puncher without a lot of talent. I've seen guys like him come and go over the years. Let's see him fight some real talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
He's done a lot this year but me personally, im not impressed..
And if u really want to nitpick, u can argue that he caught a mentally weak, overconfident dawson with a perfect punch.. the same would not happen in a rematch..
Who cares about cloud.he's such a one dimensional fighter if Ive ever seen one. Fights in one gear, has no imagination in his approach.. he sucks and even campillo beat him unofficially..
And bellew.. what stevenson did to him was exactly what all of us expected him to do so I dont see what the big deal is..
Only thing that impresses me about stevenson is how active he's been this year against decent oppositions.. thats what impresses me..
When I really break down their victories, I gotta say Kovalev had it tougher this year and he deserves the Fighter of the year award...
Of course Stevenson has been impressive. He wasn't even fuckin fighting at light heavyweight a year ago and now he's the champ. Every one if his victories this year have been by stoppage.
Bernard or Ward could beat him, but they are extraordinary p4p level fighters.
im impressed at what he has accomplished this past year since he isnt the most talented fighter, but if you are asking if im impressed at his skill level then i would say no.
i liked his last two performances , he was hardly hit in both fights
tony might not be an elite fighter but he is a well school boxer and could give most world class fighters problems, he couldnt hit stevenson apart from one good spell in the third i think it was
I gotta disagree with this @erics44. Tony's biggest problem for me is timing and I think he would've got found out by pretty much any of the divisions elite. He gets worked up and angry too easily and allows this to affect his performance negatively during a fight. Just swining for the fences and thinking you're going to take a man's head of with every punch doesn't come across like a fighter who is well schooled. He reminds me of being out in Liverpool on a Saturday night if I'm honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
As for Stevenson, I've been impressed with what he's accomplished this year but I'm not convinced he is a top class fighter and I'm convinced he would get starched by Kovalev so if I was GYM, I would cash in with a Pascal fight before going anywhere near Kovalev.
I would have to agree. He has done a lot in the ring. Maybe I'm too hard on him. Some people think he's the next Duran. Let me say I'm not there yet. He still has to show me more. It looks like to me that a good counter puncher with some pop could do some damage to him. Marciano didn't have a lot of talent either but would fight you to the death. I'm more of a wait and see guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
How can you not be impressed, he is active and beating good quality fighters very quickly.
You have to be impressed with his 2013 performances, he avenged his lone loss, and stopped 3 other ranked opponents. That level of activity & opposition has to be admired.
He's a puncher. But punchers get exposed over time. He already had a ko loss from someone who timed him to the core. I think he is exciting to watch for the moment, but at the end of the day put him in with someone that can box he will be exposed again. In fact, someone that can box and bang...Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He's a good show while he has the spotlight.
Stevenson has done all that has been asked of him at LHW , however lets not get to carried away , he is very beatable , bellew was British standard class no better , however Stevenson is exciting and I like watching his fights.
I am impressed with Stevenson but he falls into the Deontay zone for me. I like to see him fight, his wins are impressive but he seems to be lacking in certain areas. Stevenson has proved himself a bit more than Deontay. Bottom line is I prefer to see both of them win.
"A bit more..." ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by walrus
He's THE Light Heavyweight Champion of the World.
Wilder is a top prospect with a huge punch who has yet to beat a legitimate top 10 opponent.
Made a big splash. Kovalev devastates him:stars:
i think the thing many people are failing to recognize is that stevenson isnt and probably will never be at the level to where he is a heavy favorite over any contender. i couldnt say for certain that he would beat anybody in the top 10 LHWs right now. i think that he would beat most of them but i wouldnt be surprised to see him lose.
he has had a good run but i think that it doesnt last long.
His vulnerability is what also makes him appealingQuote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
[QUOTE=Hulk;1207341]Yeah, I agree! Even though I'm not completely sold on Stevenson, he does have a set of balls, making Deontay look like a large puppy with a loud bark.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
[QUOTE=beenKOed;1207403]I was only talking about my personal feelings about how I view them. Neither of them gets me very excited.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkYeah, I agree! Even though I'm not completely sold on Stevenson, he does have a set of balls, making Deontay look like a large puppy with a loud bark.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
[QUOTE=walrus;1207431]I don't really have a problem with what you said, you simply gave me a chance to vent my frustration with Wilder. I believe what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI was only talking about my personal feelings about how I view them. Neither of them gets me very excited.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkYeah, I agree! Even though I'm not completely sold on Stevenson, he does have a set of balls, making Deontay look like a large puppy with a loud bark.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Give him a solid jab or double jab and a damn right hook to go along with it and I'll be pleased immensely with him.
He has shown improvement and is developing with each fight :teacher:Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
He's still a one handed fighter..Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaHe has shown improvement and is developing with each fight :teacher:Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
Pacman used to be one handed as well but he developed a right hand after getting taught a lesson by Morales.. Roach introduced it as the Manilla Ice..
Stevenson needs to add more shit to his arsenal if he wants to stay at top for awhile...
He does rely on the left too muchQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaHe's still a one handed fighter..Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaHe has shown improvement and is developing with each fight :teacher:Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
Pacman used to be one handed as well but he developed a right hand after getting taught a lesson by Morales.. Roach introduced it as the Manilla Ice..
Stevenson needs to add more shit to his arsenal if he wants to stay at top for awhile...
I think hes doing the best with what he has. I think much of the success hes been enjoying thus far is how other have put it.. circumstantial. Hes having a good year, but the prophecy by Manny steward that Stevenson was based largely that Dawson was more of a tin man than Stevenson's prowess. I hate to discount a hardworking fighter that tries hard every time out. He's learn to keep his hand next to his chin with is another feather in his cap.
The truth is the showboating hes prone to sometimes is not only unwarranted but outright stupid when you're stalking a guy in the ring and your just out of range. You wanna dazzle us with some speed, head movement, or pick your perfect shot... great. If you're doing it to spice up a rinse and repeat grind down of a limited or less than game opponent.... its a little empty. I think the sticking point with this guy is that his personality is bigger than his skill level is and it doesn't sit well with some people. Many people are just waiting for the moment he gets caught to jump up and say I told you so to HBO, the media, Quebec, the guy that named him superman, anyone who's turned a trick under him and anyone else in the hype parade. Sad, but true.